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Reply #105 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 8:38am

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

It's a blatantly one-sided article from the Murdoch press that makes no mention of the Coalition's policy (which is worse).

Note how it says "government analysis". The Coalition government has been spoonfeeding the Murdoch press with biased crap, and the Murdoch press has been dutifully following their role as the Coalition's propaganda division to publish it uncritically.

It's certainly fooled you, hasn't it?

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Reply #106 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 10:08am

$213Bn, you say? And about half of that will go into the pockets of the bosses of companies running the businesses ... remember 'in-home' care - pays $28-30 ph to the coalface worker - government plays $60-120 ph to the company.

Best get the job as the boss there and cop your $30-90 ph per job for sitting on your arse and pretending to be a business person while somebody else does the sh1t work. 10 contracts @ average $90 ph x 10 employees working 8 hours a day = $7,200 per day - good work if you can get it..... how do they go bust??

Same here - with the proviso that this is a ludicrous policy given that the costs will just rise and rise the more money is thrown at it, same as every other 'issue'.... and the Old Mates Club will 'buy' into it.

A family bringing in $350k pa can't afford a baby sitter? If people on a provable $350k a year after all perks are forced to pay their own way, downward pressure will start to be exerted on other areas of spending, such as for a home and such.

Money far better spent on real public housing and on people with genuine needs, and let's be honest - reducing the number of people competing for a job will eventually stabilise the economy again and make the family more sustainable, and the demolition of the single mother industry is a good start in many ways.

BTW - EVERY party that has sought to put families first has been shot down time after time... people will just not vote for their own long term best interests and remain mired in some belief that the only game in town is The Tag Team, who are demonstrably self-serving idiots all cut from the same cloth.

I'll stick to voting for Independents.

EVERYTHING you are told about the plight of poor poor women is a lie........ I've shown you the figures time and again.

50% of men retire with pension as primary income....... 45% of women... how can that possibly gel with the lies you are being told? Simple really - women overall retire with more in hand than men do...... simple reality. That's the only way those figures could pan out................

As for the idea of giving people on $500k CCS - I always told you that 'feminism' was a middle class movement with no concern or idea for those at the lowest end of the scale. Elitist sickness to the core.

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Reply #107 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 8:54pm:

macman wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 6:21pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2022 at 8:44am:

Labor’s 90 per cent childcare subsidy plan will cost taxpayers billions as rich benefit

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese first committed to an “aspirational policy” of a 90 per cent childcare subsidy for all families – including those who make more than $500,000 per annum, in his budget reply in 2020.

Without detailing the costing, Mr Albanese said the goal would be examined by the Productivity Commission to test for viability, noting that cheaper childcare was a key economic measure.

But, new government analysis reveals a universal 90 per cent child care subsidy would rack up $213 billion in childcare spending over the next decade, $63b more than current government policies – which cuts off subsidies for families earning more than $354,305 a year.

Labor’s committed policy of extending the subsidy to families with incomes of up to $530K would cost an extra $29b over 10 years, but expanding to a 90 per cent subsidy for all families would add an additional $34b to the taxpayer receipt.

Under Labor’s proposal, all families sending one child to daycare five days a week would pay just $2662.5 in a year, while taxpayers would foot $23,962.50.

Families sending two children to daycare three days a week would pay $3195, while the taxpayer fronts up the other $28,755.

Still waiting for the link wank.

Let me get our head around this ?

The full cost of sending one child to pre school is about $27,000 a year.

Pre School Teachers are among the lowest paid in the workforce.

Pre school classes up to 15 children @ $27,000 is around $400,000

even at 10 it is $270,000.

The Pre School may be running 4 or 5 classes. $1.35 M (or $2 M @ 15 students).

Does this mean that to pay the full cost of pre school for someone on $100K would be 4 times their yearly income?

Does something seem not right here ?

We know you can't get your head around it. Way too complex. The mooted subsidisation is for childcare, not pre-school. It's even written in big letters so ol' Duckboy can see it.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #108 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:04pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 7:31pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

Fukk me dead. Can anybody tug themselves harder. You also suggested other places to look for more policies of dubious worth. Like I wrote, I couldn't give a rat's arse where it came from.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #109 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:20pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 8:23pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

Freediver makes fun of Abo Frodo Smith every time he sees him post here. Why? Smith is a tool who has absolutely no idea.

Seems like fair game. I don't breeze by here very often these days but sometimes it's worth a laugh.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #110 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:59pm

crocodile wrote on Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 7:31pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

Fukk me dead. Can anybody tug themselves harder. You also suggested other places to look for more policies of dubious worth. Like I wrote, I couldn't give a rat's arse where it came from.

That's right, I suggested other places to a comedy skit. And? or do you think you're the only one with a right to suggest where one should look for dumb policies? Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Albo government scorecard
Reply #111 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 6:46pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 8^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 7:31pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:59pm:

crocodile wrote on Mar 7^th, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Couldn't find a dumber policy in a comedy skit.

You can suggest whatever you want. Just the same as I can state that I don't give a fukk about authorship. Dumb is dumb no matter where it comes from.

That's because you have to be intelligent to do comedy successfully

If you want to find dumber polices, try the liberal party website instead

You are a tool. I don't give a flying fukk who dreamt this idiocy up. It is dumb policy regardless of who is proposing it.

you seem to be arguing with yourself. I merely addressed the point you made about finding dumber policies in a comedy skit .

Fukk me dead. Can anybody tug themselves harder. You also suggested other places to look for more policies of dubious worth. Like I wrote, I couldn't give a rat's arse where it came from.

That's right, I suggested other places to a comedy skit. And? or do you think you're the only one with a right to suggest where one should look for dumb policies? Cheesy

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76092 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #112 - Mar 8^th, 2022 at 7:31pm best thing you've said yet
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crocodile Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6683 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #113 - Mar 9^th, 2022 at 5:56am John Smith wrote on Mar 8^th, 2022 at 7:31pm: best thing you've said yet Had to put up something you're capable of comprehending.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76092 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #114 - Mar 9^th, 2022 at 6:42pm crocodile wrote on Mar 9^th, 2022 at 5:56am: John Smith wrote on Mar 8^th, 2022 at 7:31pm: best thing you've said yet Had to put up something you're capable of comprehending. Next time make sure you understand it first ... I wouldn't want you to put yourself out on my account.
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11604 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #115 - Mar 9^th, 2022 at 11:27pm
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11604 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #116 - Mar 13^th, 2022 at 9:13pm Fresh from the 60 Minutes fluff-piece on Albo ... It's all over, it's in the bag. Albo will be the next PM. Lock it in Eddie.
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Reply #117 - Mar 21^st, 2022 at 9:05am

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 49896 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #118 - Mar 24^th, 2022 at 7:50pm
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Labor majority government Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1417 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #119 - Mar 24^th, 2022 at 9:03pm Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2022 at 7:50pm: https://spectatorau.imgix.net/content/uploads/2022/03/cover-26-march_post.jpg Apart from run their mouth and cost billions in trade what exactly have liberals accomplished with their China bad rhetoric ?
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