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Reply #435 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

So you agree democracies like France Spain Italy et al (and hang on to your hats in the upcoming US midterms...) are failing - which you blame on China; yet the WTO never banned China for 'breaking the rules' after 2000.

So you can't differentiate between "breaking the rules" and "gamin the system"? Grin

Australia is generally too small to take on China.

"China 'dumped' aluminium windows, doors in Australia, preliminary trade report shows"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-15/chinese-aluminium-windows-doors-imports-t...

The removal of the ban on wine because of anti-dumping regulation was shown to be false ... therefoe there was no case to ban it in the first place. Grin

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Reply #437 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm

lee wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:26pm:

So question to AI: What is the difference between trade restrictions" and a ban on "all australian goods"? Trade restrictions are bans.

Wrong question in this debate (see below):

China banned SOME Oz exports in retaliation for Morrison's perceived unfriendly attitude to China, an attitude which began under Turnbull who banned China's most successful global export company at that time - Huawei.

'Happy-clappy' Morrison ofcourse wanted to ensure Oz obtained nuclear subs to keep the atheist "commies" out of democratic Taiwan, thereby risking WW3 and presumably hastening Christ's return...

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AI Answer: You’re right: a trade restriction can be a ban. I meant that China’s measures targeted particular Australian products or exporters, rather than prohibiting all Australian goods. Calling them “trade restrictions” didn’t make them any less of a ban on the affected products. My wording blurred that distinction—sorry.

Intriguing...AI apologized...without understanding your duplicitous mentality.

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But you do like to blur distinctions. Wink

Like conflating 'some and 'all', noted above?

You still haven't named the actual Oz exports banned by China during Morrison's tenure, preferring to blur the line between some and all.

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Reply #438 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:28pm

lee wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:26pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:13pm:

Lee: "And China has banned Australia's products since then."

Name those products.

From AI: As of October 2026, none of the major Australian product categories targeted by China’s trade restrictions remain banned. The restrictions were progressively lifted from 2023 to 2024; the last major barrier, on live lobsters, was removed in December 2024.
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At last, thanks.

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The previously targeted products included barley, wine, beef, coal, timber, cotton and lobsters. These were trade restrictions—not a general ban on all Australian goods—and some measures applied to particular exporters or shipments rather than every product in a category.

Strange that targeted products that were banned were trade restrictions and not "all Australian Goods".

So question to AI: What is the difference between trade restrictions" and a ban on "all australian goods"? Trade restrictions are bans.

Wrong question to AI: no-one said China banned ALL Oz products (see below)

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AI Answer: You’re right: a trade restriction can be a ban. I meant that China’s measures targeted particular Australian products or exporters, rather than prohibiting all Australian goods. Calling them “trade restrictions” didn’t make them any less of a ban on the affected products. My wording blurred that distinction—sorry.

Wow, intriguing: AI apologized for YOUR duplicity...no-one said China banned ALL Oz products.

[quote]But you do like to blur distinctions. Wink

YOU are 'blurring the distinction" between 'some' and 'all'...

Meanwhile 'happy-clappy' Morrison was determined to ensure the atheist 'commies' on the mainland would never invade democratic Taiwan - hence the nuclear subs catastrophe guaranteed to hike Oz spending on the military at the expense of economic wellbeing for its poorer citizens.

Actually this unfriendly Oz attitude to China began under Turnbull who banned China's most successful global export company at the time - Huawei - on CIA orders...just a few years after Abbott welcomed Xi to address the Oz Parliament.

(The US began to tweak that China was on course to overtake the US economy within a decade when Turnbull was in office - hence the increasing Western animosity, and trade barriers, to China since then).i

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Reply #439 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm

lee wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

So you agree democracies like France Spain Italy et al (and hang on to your hats in the upcoming US midterms...) are failing - which you blame on China; yet the WTO never banned China for 'breaking the rules' after 2000.

So you can't differentiate between "breaking the rules" and "gamin the system"? Grin

(google AI)

The Broader Reality

• No "Systemic Incompatibility" Ruling: While the WTO has ruled against China on specific measures, it has not ruled that China's state-led or socialist market economic model itself is illegal or "incompatible" with WTO membership. WTO rules regulate trade behavior and non-discrimination rather than mandating a purely free-market domestic political structure.

• Complaints Go Both Ways: China has also used the WTO dispute system to challenge other nations. For instance, the WTO ruled against the United States, finding that U.S. tariffs imposed on Chinese goods during trade disputes breached international rules, and China has filed subsequent WTO complaints against U.S., Turkish, and Indian clean energy and tariff measures.

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Australia is generally too small to take on China

Yet Turnbull banned Huawei on trumped up "security" grounds.

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"China 'dumped' aluminium windows, doors in Australia, preliminary trade report shows"

Yes, as Jasin has noticed, the neoclassical-based WTO free trade rules( based on "comparative advantage") no longer work: China is making the mistake of continuing to believe in "free trade", while Trump abandoned the WTO (during Trump 1.0), and is making enemies by trying to offload its "over-capcity".

The tragedy is China could be lifting its entire population into the middle class without seeking to export its way to first world per capita income....even while the first world demcracies are failing to ensure everyone is enjoying 'first world income'.

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The removal of the ban on wine because of anti-dumping regulation was shown to be false ... therefoe there was no case to ban it in the first place.

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[i]No, the World Trade Organization (WTO) never issued a formal legal ruling on China's massive tariffs on Australian wine.

Instead, Australia and China reached a "mutually agreed solution" outside of the courtroom.

Here is how the dispute was resolved:

• The WTO Case: Australia originally filed a formal complaint with the WTO in 2021, arguing that China's anti-dumping duties of up to 218% breached international trade rules. A WTO adjudication panel was set up and spent two years reviewing the arguments.

• The Suspension: In October 2023, just before Prime Minister Anthony Albanese visited Beijing, both nations agreed to temporarily freeze the WTO case. Australia suspended its legal proceedings in exchange for China conducting an "expedited review" of its wine duties.

• The Resolution: On March 28, 2024, China's Ministry of Commerce officially announced it was dropping the heavy wine tariffs. The following day, on March 29, 2024, Australia formally withdrew and discontinued its legal proceedings at the WTO.

Because the two nations settled the matter diplomatically, the WTO panel simply issued a short report in April 2024 noting that a mutual agreement had been successfully reached, bypassing a definitive legal judgment on the matter

Note: the perception of Albo in China was very different to Morrison's indeological animosity.

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You are increasingly off topic

Which is a 'wealth tax' - to save our failing democracies.

So I'm promoting debt free public money to fund essential public services, hence no need for ANY taxes to fund government.

Meanwhile the terrible animosity directed to pollies hooked onthe current dysfunctional economic/financial system has played out in an horrific manner yesterday, as some unintelligent low life decided to ruin an innnocent politican's life for the dysfunctional system all pollies operate in.

A system you support.

Deplorable.

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Reply #440 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:07pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm:

Wrong question in this debate (see below):

China banned SOME Oz exports in retaliation for Morrison's perceived unfriendly attitude to China, an attitude which began under Turnbull who banned China's most successful global export company at that time - Huawei.

And then... under Labor's watch? Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm:

Like conflating 'some and 'all', noted above?

But I never mentioned "ALL". that was your interpretation. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm:

You still haven't named the actual Oz exports banned by China during Morrison's tenure, preferring to blur the line between some and all.

I am talking about NOW, Morrison is gone. Do try to keep up. Cool

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Reply #441 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:18pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:28pm:

no-one said China banned ALL Oz products (see below)

And neither did I. That was your interpretation. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:28pm:

YOU are 'blurring the distinction" between 'some' and 'all'...

Once again, I NEVER said ALL. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:28pm:

Meanwhile 'happy-clappy' Morrison

Why are you so fixated on Morrison? Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm:

No "Systemic Incompatibility" Ruling:

Oh Systemic Incompatibility? So one offs are ok. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm:

Yet Turnbull banned Huawei on trumped up "security" grounds.

And now Huawei is China? Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm:

• The Resolution: On March 28, 2024, China's Ministry of Commerce officially announced it was dropping the heavy wine tariffs. The following day, on March 29, 2024, Australia formally withdrew and discontinued its legal proceedings at the WTO.

Exactly. China was fighting a losing cause, Australia played the "nice guy". Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm:

Which is a 'wealth tax' - to save our failing democracies.

Yes and China's trade relations are nothing to do with a wealth tax. Grin

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quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1642444396/439#439 date=1792465587]So I'm promoting debt free public money to fund essential public services, hence no need for ANY taxes to fund government.
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Ah promoting. Being a paid activist? Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm:

Meanwhile the terrible animosity directed to pollies hooked onthe current dysfunctional economic/financial system has played out in an horrific manner yesterday, as some unintelligent low life decided to ruin an innnocent politican's life for the dysfunctional system all pollies operate in.

Again nothing to do with a wealth tax. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:06pm:

A system you support.

So please show, explicitly, where I have supported violence against politicians. Shocked

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Reply #442 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm

lee wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:07pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm:

Wrong question in this debate (see below):

China banned SOME Oz exports in retaliation for Morrison's perceived unfriendly attitude to China, an attitude which began under Turnbull who banned China's most successful global export company at that time - Huawei.

And then... under Labor's watch? Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm:

Like conflating 'some and 'all', noted above?

But I never mentioned "ALL". that was your interpretation. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 12:02pm:

You still haven't named the actual Oz exports banned by China during Morrison's tenure, preferring to blur the line between some and all.

I am talking about NOW, Morrison is gone. Do try to keep up. Cool

Addressed in the previous 2 posts .

Do you support a wealth tax to enable government to deliver the essentials for all?

O course not: you support the status quo presented by Neoclassical "austerity" economists as the only possible system ...(TINA"...) and who are responsible for the system which is tearing the democracies apart.

....

All strength to Helen Haines, as she recovers from life- changing injuries directly caused by Neoclassical "austerity economists" who blithely ignore the distress they are causing the large number of peole who are suffering under the c-o-l and housing crisis; distress which occasionally manifests in extremely violent acts...

A system YOU support.

Deplorable.

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Reply #443 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:34pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

Addressed in the previous 2 posts .

Nope. Procrastinating. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

and who are responsible for the system which is tearing the democracies apart.

It is your left-wing nutjobs dong a brilliant job of that. Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

All strength to Helen Haines, as she recovers from life- changing injuries directly caused by Neoclassical "austerity economists" who blithely ignore the distress they are causing the large number of peole who are suffering under the c-o-l and housing crisis; distress which occasionally manifests in extremely violent acts...

Ah yes. the Helen Haines who suppoprted abortion, that Hgelen haines.

And it was a left-wing nutter, one of your mob.

😡

There is no funny emoji for attacking anyone.

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Reply #444 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm

lee wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

Addressed in the previous 2 posts .

Nope. Procrastinating. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

and who are responsible for the system which is tearing the democracies apart.

It is your left-wing nutjobs dong a brilliant job of that. Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 1:29pm:

All strength to Helen Haines, as she recovers from life- changing injuries directly caused by Neoclassical "austerity economists" who blithely ignore the distress they are causing the large number of peole who are suffering under the c-o-l and housing crisis; distress which occasionally manifests in extremely violent acts...

Ah yes. the Helen Haines who suppoprted abortion, that Hgelen haines.

And it was a left-wing nutter, one of your mob.

😡

There is no funny emoji for attacking anyone.

1. You mindlessly claim I am "left wing" because I reject your dysfunctional economic system which is responsible for the current c-o-l and housing crises causing massive distress for lower iccome groups all around the world.

As for Nugent:

(google AI)

Brendan Nugent, the 43-year-old man arrested following the deliberate vehicle ramming attack on independent federal MP Helen Haines in Wangaratta, had expressed significant frustration online regarding the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS).

While counter-terrorism police, the Australian Federal Police (AFP), and ASIO continue to investigate his exact motive, digital footprints and public records show that Nugent struggled heavily with financial distress and disability systems

The system YOU support - also supported by mainstream politicians - is a direct cause of the Haines' tragedy.

..because the government ignorantly follows economists in the thrall of the wealthy 'masters of the economy' who insist the government must balance its budget...

A disaster for all of us.

Now the infighting begins:

eg,

(Euronews)

France galvanised by shopkeepers and locals who fought back against rioters and looters....

Yes, shop-keepers with a source of income are blaming the rioters forced to exist on the dole, plus people protesting c-o-l and housing crises.

Due to the system YOU support.

More on Nugent:

• Disability & NDIS Grievances: In social media posts dating back to at least 2022, Nugent claimed to live with a "significant disability" and "chronic pain". He complained publicly about "huge gaps" in the NDIS and his inability to secure NDIS support.

• Financial & Housing Distress: Despite reportedly receiving a Disability Support Pension (DSP), he wrote that he was "constantly broke" due to health-related costs. He also stated he was unable to find adequate housing, claiming he was forced to "cook on a fire and wash my clothes in the river".

It's time for comfortable Conservatives to 'walk in the shoes of others'...

How to eradicate the current level of economic distress in society?

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Reply #445 - Oct 20^th, 2026 at 6:59pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

1. You mindlessly claim I am "left wing" because I reject your dysfunctional economic system which is responsible for the current c-o-l and housing crises causing massive distress for lower iccome groups all around the world.

So your support for China is right-wing? Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

Brendan Nugent, the 43-year-old man arrested following the deliberate vehicle ramming attack on independent federal MP Helen Haines in Wangaratta, had expressed significant frustration online regarding the National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS).

While counter-terrorism police, the Australian Federal Police (AFP), and ASIO continue to investigate his exact motive, digital footprints and public records show that Nugent struggled heavily with financial distress and disability systems

Now all you have to do is reconcile that with an INDEPEDENT politician. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

The system YOU support - also supported by mainstream politicians - is a direct cause of the Haines' tragedy.

And nothing to do with an independent politician. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

Yes, shop-keepers with a source of income are blaming the rioters forced to exist on the dole, plus people protesting c-o-l and housing crises.

Don't you mean shopkeepers who lost their source of income from rioters are being blamed. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

Disability & NDIS Grievances: In social media posts dating back to at least 2022, Nugent claimed to live with a "significant disability" and "chronic pain". He complained publicly about "huge gaps" in the NDIS and his inability to secure NDIS support.

Oh he complained. Do you have the medical reports saying he has "signinificant disability"? Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

Financial & Housing Distress: Despite reportedly receiving a Disability Support Pension (DSP), he wrote that he was "constantly broke" due to health-related costs. He also stated he was unable to find adequate housing, claiming he was forced to "cook on a fire and wash my clothes in the river".

"He wrote? Was it backed by evidence? Ooh cooking on a fir, doesn't sound like he couldn't afforf food. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

It's time for comfortable Conservatives to 'walk in the shoes of others'...

And how do you know "I am comfortable"? Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

How to eradicate the current level of economic distress in society?

Live within your means. If necessary stop smoking, if really necessarily stop drinking, and most of all eschew the tatts. Cool

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Reply #446 - Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am

lee wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 6:59pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

1. You mindlessly claim I am "left wing" because I reject your dysfunctional economic system which is responsible for the current c-o-l and housing crises causing massive distress for lower iccome groups all around the world.

So your support for China is right-wing? Grin

Confirmation of your mindless claim I'm "left wing": my support for China's one party meritocracy - tasked with achieving the general welfare - is driven in part by the increasing c-o-l and housing crises in the "rich" Western democracies who are governed by adversarial-party rabbles.

ie, a 'government by self-interested rabbles' directly responsible for the widespread economic distress in the "rich" Western democracies; or more exactly, the wide-spread economic distress caused by mainstream 'austerity' economists with their delusional dogmas accepted by the media and politicians left and right. (That's why the centre "left" Dems aren't assured of winning Congress in the midterms: the public are saying 'a pox on both your houses')

And directly responsible for such as the Haines tragedy, as people fall through 'welfare' gaps.

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Now all you have to do is reconcile that with an INDEPEDENT politician. Roll Eyes

ALL politicians are deluded by mainstream neoclassical "austerity" dogma, because that dogma is, well, mainstream, and supported by wealthy "masters of the nation's economy'.

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Don't you mean shopkeepers who lost their source of income from rioters are being blamed. Cool

No dummy; the shopkeepers who have to rebuild are blaming rioters who have previously lost all connection to society - as opposed to nonviolent protestors who are suffering from severe c-o-l and housing crises.

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Oh he complained. Do you have the medical reports saying he has "signinificant disability"? Cool

We have Nugent's own complaints re his association with the NDIS, and his subsequent homelessness.

Interestingly, the police today didn't mention ANY of the details contained in Nugent's past social media comments; it will be intersting to see if the police investigation into his motives will ever nbe released to the public, because the ramifications of a dysfunctional economic system being understood by the public are massive.

Hence your preference to downplay the reaity of Nugent's complaints...to wit:

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"He wrote? Was it backed by evidence? Ooh cooking on a fir, doesn't sound like he couldn't afforf food. Cool

That's what the police task-force is examining, stay tuned....

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And how do you know "I am comfortable"? Grin

I know you are content to support the current dysfunctional financial system which is threatening to destroy our democracies; you wouldn't support the system if you weren't comfortable.

Whereas I'm also comfortable - yet I can also 'walk in the shoes of others'...

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TGD: How to eradicate the current level of economic distress in society?

Live within your means. If necessary stop smoking, if really necessarily stop drinking, and most of all eschew the tatts. Cool

Your error: a widespread c-o-l and housing crisis hinders "living within one's means" among lower income groups where the issue is a choice between paying the rent/mortgage, or buying good food.

Creating distress and pushback among those most affected.

....

Comments, anyone?

It's tiresome debating lee who is a self confessed fraud - he admitted (via his alter ego FD) - he transferred a debate from the MMT thread to his "privatization" thread..."FTW" - a technique used in war, not in the search for truth.

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Reply #447 - Oct 21^st, 2026 at 1:21pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

Confirmation of your mindless claim I'm "left wing": my support for China's one party meritocracy -

Where the hierarchy decide the relative merits of the proponents. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

And directly responsible for such as the Haines tragedy, as people fall through 'welfare' gaps.

Ah- the person that uncritically supports Gaza, would have to be an anti-abortionist, who ran down the woman that supports welfare, whose family have been friends for 20 years. And it is because he is "on welfare". Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

ALL politicians are deluded by mainstream neoclassical "austerity" dogma, because that dogma is, well, mainstream, and supported by wealthy "masters of the nation's economy'.

So you have something definitive on Helen Haines "austerity dogma"/ Pllease tell. Embarrassed

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

the shopkeepers who have to rebuild are blaming rioters who have previously lost all connection to society - as opposed to nonviolent protestors who are suffering from severe c-o-l and housing crises.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 20^th, 2026 at 4:50pm:

Yes, shop-keepers with a source of income are blaming the rioters forced to exist on the dole, plus people protesting c-o-l and housing crises.

You were the one said the shopkeepers had a "source of income", if they have to rebuild they have NO "source of income". Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

We have Nugent's own complaints re his association with the NDIS, and his subsequent homelessness.

He was apparentlyt homeless in his youth.

But according to AI: The ABC’s reporting doesn’t say that Brendan Nugent was homeless before the alleged attack. It says he was understood to live at a property in Tarrawingee, near Wangaratta.

So not homeless then. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

That's what the police task-force is examining, stay tuned....

But that was in response to what YOU wrote. Now you are backtracking and say wait for the police report. Cool

BTW- His social posts - Did they stop in 2022? That is your timeline -4 long years ago.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

It's tiresome debating lee who is a self confessed fraud - he admitted (via his alter ego FD) - he transferred a debate from the MMT thread to his "privatization" thread..."FTW" - a technique used in war, not in the search for truth.

Now we see you are truly delusional. FD and I fequently cross swords. Grin

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Reply #449 - Oct 22^nd, 2026 at 2:28pm

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 1:21pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21^st, 2026 at 10:42am:

Confirmation of your mindless claim I'm "left wing": my support for China's one party meritocracy -

Where the hierarchy decide the relative merits of the proponents. Roll Eyes

What hierachy?

A consensus one-party system, committed to achieving common prosperity, chooses (by consensus) its national office holders on merit, drawing from a vast field of local officials who themselves hold office by consensus.
(Just as candidates are chosen to stand for adversarial political parties in 'democratic' elections; your local member of Parliament (when your party is in power) was chosen by those party members eligible to vote for the party's candidate.

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Ah- the person that uncritically supports Gaza, would have to be an anti-abortionist, who ran down the woman that supports welfare, whose family have been friends for 20 years. And it is because he is "on welfare".

Now you are displaying errors in logic, confusing personal beliefs/opinions, with China's one-party consensus government's policies guided by the principle of common prosperity.

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So you have something definitive on Helen Haines "austerity dogma"/ Pllease tell. :-

(sigh) ALL politicians (just like you) erroneously believe the c-i government, which is an ISSUER of the currency - must 'balance its budget', which is the cause of govt. "austerity" creating widespread financial disstress; they believe this because citizens who are USERS of the currency are deluded (like you) by their own experiences in needing to balance their houshold budgets, to avoid the debtor's prison.

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You were the one said the shopkeepers had a "source of income", if they have to rebuild they have NO "source of income". Cool

You are confusing temporary loss of income (while repairs are made) with being broke; whereas the 'great unwashed' ie rioters who are demoralized by the system and are indeed permanently relying on 'welfare' payments to survive.

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TGD We have Nugent's own complaints re his association with the NDIS, and his subsequent homelessness.

He was apparentlyt homeless in his youth.

But according to AI: The ABC’s reporting doesn’t say that Brendan Nugent was homeless before the alleged attack. It says he was understood to live at a property in Tarrawingee, near Wangaratta.

So not homeless then.

Homeless in his youth?

That also needs to be explored by the aurhorites looking to understand his current mental state.

Just as his self-reported chronic pain for a rare neurological condition, which the NDIS apparently refused to address, needs to be examined, to understand the motivation for the attack on Haines.

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: TGD: That's what the police task-force is examining, stay tuned....

But that was in response to what YOU wrote. Now you are backtracking and say wait for the police report. Cool

I reported (via google AI) Nugent's complaints discovered in social media; obviously the authorities need to examine the relevance of those complaints re any motivation for the attack.

No "backtracking" on my part, just YOUR false conclusions, to wit:

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BTW- His social posts - Did they stop in 2022? That is your timeline -4 long years ago.

Your error: the question is - are his past posts relevant for determing motivation for the attack; stay tuned.

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Now we see you are truly delusional. FD and I fequently cross swords. Grin

See Jasin's response..... Grin

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