lee wrote on Oct 18^th, 2026 at 1:37pm:


Dummy lee:

The US and China both "ban" (some) imports eg the US bans Chinese EVs - the best value EVs in the world; and China bans imports from unfriendly nations eg, Oz under Morrison...those import bans have since been lifted.

lee wrote on Oct 18^th, 2026 at 1:35pm:


See lee supporting Conservative fake finance (and the "legal" derivatives casino), rather than just distribution of goods and services; meanwhile the question of who has the privilege to create money, and the consequences of that privilege, is causing incresing chaos around the world.


Deplorable.    

lee wrote on Oct 18^th, 2026 at 1:37pm:


China bans imports from unfriendly nations eg Oz under Morrison... 

lee wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 1:30pm:


Dummy lee: trying to reduce a price isn't banning imports; raising prohibitive tariffs (Trump's trick) is.   

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All the banned imports under unfriendly Morrison have been lifted.

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 1:42pm:


Then why is BHP effectively banned, not by the users but by the Government? thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 1:42pm:


And where did I say different?

Jasin wrote on Oct 18^th, 2026 at 1:53pm:


Indeed - except the US, after China's ascension to the WTO in 2000, willingly let itself be 'raped' in the name of free trade.

Just as had occurred 2 decades earlier, in the "free-trade" in cars between Tokyo and Detroit...

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Well... Trump has certainly prevented US competition with better value Chinese EVs....

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Level playing field?

State-sponsored development in China has proved unbeatable under WTO rules - now the US can't compete.

Meanwhile China's trade surplus with the rest of the world keeps increasing...

(googe AI)

China's trade surplus reached $938.11 billion in the first nine months of 2026, driven by a record monthly surplus of $133.53 billion in September.

Key Data & Drivers

• First Nine Months: The cumulative surplus of $938.11 billion puts China on track to exceed last year's record $1.2 trillion annual total


...But I agree, "freetrade", that bastard concept of  Neoclassical  economics, has shown itself to be unsustainable, with democracies  everywhere now failing to deliver for their citizens...

lee wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 1:57pm:


Fraudulent lee as always, twisting and turning, and replying to selective quotes. 

Lee: "And China has banned Australia's products since then."

Name those products. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 2:13pm:


From AI: As of October 2026, none of the major Australian product categories targeted by China’s trade restrictions remain banned. The restrictions were progressively lifted from 2023 to 2024; the last major barrier, on live lobsters, was removed in December 2024.
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The previously targeted products included barley, wine, beef, coal, timber, cotton and lobsters. These were trade restrictions—not a general ban on all Australian goods—and some measures applied to particular exporters or shipments rather than every product in a category.

Strange that targeted products that were banned were trade restrictions and not
"all Australian Goods".

So  question to AI: What is the difference between trade restrictions" and a ban on "all australian goods"? Trade restrictions are bans.

Answer: You’re right: a trade restriction can be a ban. I meant that China’s measures targeted particular Australian products or exporters, rather than prohibiting all Australian goods. Calling them “trade restrictions” didn’t make them any less of a ban on the affected products. My wording blurred that distinction—sorry.

But you do like to blur distinctions.