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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #60 - Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:06pm

lee wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:24pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 6:03pm:

What do you think this thread is about?

It is about 17 feet of snow in Canada. Did you forget that?

Nothing in the OP about climate. And they say the records only go back to 1970. Wink

For someone with nothing to say about snowfall, you are posting an aweful lot Lee.

Would you like to tell us what you are trying to say, or have you not figured it out yet? Do you think Bobby got confused and thought California was in the UK, so he could finally disprove something someone said 20 years ago?

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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #61 - Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:48pm

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:06pm:

For someone with nothing to say about snowfall, you are posting an aweful lot Lee.

I have said things. You question things. Why is that so hard to understand? Grin

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 9:06pm:

Do you think Bobby got confused and thought California was in the UK, so he could finally disprove something someone said 20 years ago?

Perhaps you need to consult bobby on that. Or get out your ouija board. Wink

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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #62 - Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 10:41pm

lee wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 8:21pm:

poor petal. I can only go on what you post. And you are a good barracker for AGW and the IPCC.

No, the problem is you can't think clearly, and can't read what I post. I can 'barrack' for the AGW "religion" while at the same time being agnostic, because the IPCC consensus serves my purposes (ie, getting rid of fossils).

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Which is why China and India are building more coal plants. Much more power output than Solar or wind.

China is building solar/wind at a faster rate than any other country, but the increasing demand for energy is so great that coal, still being the easiest and cheapest option, is also still increasing (set to peak in 2030).

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Poor petal. Can't back up your own rubbish.

I know a huge Pilbara solar/wind scheme was denied approval recently, for political, NOT engineering reasons.

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You are the one that asked whether the climate has changed from being unable to be modelled. So obviously you, as usual, don't know. A complete bupkiss.

Blimey, are you losing your memory, as well as capacity to think clearly?
I don't give two hoots about climate modelling, as you well know. That's the remit of the IPCC. (I noted your doubt about a 1991 IPCC comment, as in
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The IPCC famously said in 1991 - "The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible."

I doubt the climate has differed from that.

I know what Exxon knew, what scientists generally knew. Wink

Me? I don't really care, the AGW science is too complex to interest me, I just want to get rid of the filthy fossil industry ASAP.

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So I ask again what about the climate has changed that it can now be modelled? Roll Eyes

See.... you apparently want to conduct the argument you have with the IPCC through me as a proxy. I'm not interested.

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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #63 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 8:14am

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I have said things.

You are yet to say something that makes sense. Why do you think snowfall in California disproves something someone said about snowfall in the UK 20 years ago?

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Perhaps you need to consult bobby on that. Or get out your ouija board.

Do you think it is some kind of mystery why climate "skeptics" keep getting worked up about snowfall?

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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #64 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 12:31pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 10:41pm:

No, the problem is you can't think clearly, and can't read what I post. I can 'barrack' for the AGW "religion" while at the same time being agnostic, because the IPCC consensus serves my purposes (ie, getting rid of fossils).

Ah. So you are only along for the ride. No other reason. But you said you believe the science as espoused by the IPCC. Wink

"aha ...so I'm debating a climate denier; the science says there is a climate emergency, but let's move on.."

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 10:41pm:

China is building solar/wind at a faster rate than any other country, but the increasing demand for energy is so great that coal, still being the easiest and cheapest option, is also still increasing (set to peak in 2030).

Yes. New coal plant 73GW. New Wind 55GW. Still lagging Coal install. Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 10:41pm:

I know a huge Pilbara solar/wind scheme was denied approval recently, for political, NOT engineering reasons.

Oh political?

"Federal Environment Minister Sussan Ley last week dismissed the USD-36-billion (EUR 30.3bn) proposal on the grounds that it would have “clearly unacceptable impacts” on wetlands designated of international significance and migratory birds in the region."

Ecologists don't like the ecology when it's green power they want.

You want a global governance that won't impinge on the green dream. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 10:41pm:

Blimey, are you losing your memory, as well as capacity to think clearly?
I don't give two hoots about climate modelling, as you well know. That's the remit of the IPCC. (I noted your doubt about a 1991 IPCC comment, as in
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The IPCC famously said in 1991 - "The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible."

I doubt the climate has differed from that.

Wow. How to misrepresent something. They said the climate could not be modeeled; I said that I doubted the climate had changed that much; meaning it still was not possible to model. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2022 at 10:41pm:

See.... you apparently want to conduct the argument you have with the IPCC through me as a proxy. I'm not interested.

You are not interested in science. We know. Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #65 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 12:33pm freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 8:14am: Do you think it is some kind of mystery why climate "skeptics" keep getting worked up about snowfall? You mean like you do with "hottest day evah"?
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121963 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #66 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:10pm lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 12:33pm: freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 8:14am: Do you think it is some kind of mystery why climate "skeptics" keep getting worked up about snowfall? You mean like you do with "hottest day evah"? Is this FD? - no - maybe Monk?
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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #67 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:35pm

lee wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 12:33pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

Do you think it is some kind of mystery why climate "skeptics" keep getting worked up about snowfall?

You mean like you do with "hottest day evah"? Grin

I think there is a strong correlation between temperature and temperature Lee.

Do you think it is possible for climate "skeptics" to make a rational argument from this high snowfall event and they are just too simple to string the words together? A lot seem to have a go, but none seem to be able to complete the sentence. Would you like to help Bobby out, or are you struggling too?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #68 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:41pm freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:35pm: I think there is a strong correlation between temperature and temperature Lee. How about Temperature "Hottest evah" and AGW How about temperature and snowfall?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53355 At my desk.	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #69 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:45pm Folks, for your entertainment tonight, meet Lee, the confused climate "skeptic". All you have to do to confuse him is ask him to explain what he is trying to say. He honestly has no idea. If you press him real hard, he'll ask you to tell him what he means.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121963 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #70 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:48pm Quote: Would you like to help Bobby out? I don't need any help - in fact I can help others.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #71 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:55pm Poor petal. Can't understand plain Englisch (edit: sic if needed).
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53355 At my desk.	Re: 17 feet of snow in California Reply #72 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 3:05pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:48pm: Quote: Would you like to help Bobby out? I don't need any help - in fact I can help others. Can you make a rational argument from this snowfall event Bobby? Or have climate skeptic numbers dwindled to a few remnants who are only capable of copying and pasting pictures?
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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #73 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 5:19pm

freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

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Would you like to help Bobby out?

I don't need any help -
in fact I can help others.

Can you make a rational argument from this snowfall event Bobby? Or have climate skeptic numbers dwindled to a few remnants who are only capable of copying and pasting pictures?

Yes - it was very cold with record snowfall.
That is in direct contradiction of the predictions of Al Gore
any many other global warming alarmists who said
20 years ago or more -
that children would never see snow -
that the Arctic circle would be free of ice,
and that sea levels would rise flooding many countries.

Did you believe them?

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Re: 17 feet of snow in California
Reply #74 - Jan 4^th, 2022 at 5:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 5:19pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:

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Would you like to help Bobby out?

I don't need any help -
in fact I can help others.

Can you make a rational argument from this snowfall event Bobby? Or have climate skeptic numbers dwindled to a few remnants who are only capable of copying and pasting pictures?

Yes - it was very cold with record snowfall.
That is in direct contradiction of the predictions of Al Gore
any many other global warming alarmists who said
20 years ago or more -
that children would never see snow -
that the Arctic circle would be free of ice,
and that sea levels would rise flooding many countries.

Did you believe them?

You have been banging on about snowfall for a decade now Bobby. Why are you only just now revealing why?

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