AiA wrote on Jun 10^th, 2022 at 4:12am:



Including the 200 year drought?

Seems the Cali government doesn't agree.



According to the severity index it is a moderate drought.

https://drought.ca.gov/current-drought-conditions/

The legend doesn't copy.

Droughts mostly occur during Ice Ages.
Less moisture in the air.
Monsoons occur mostly during Warm Ages.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 11^th, 2022 at 9:32pm:


And yet their own graphic doesn't show it as an extreme drought.

Extreme drought is in red. There is a very small portion of California in extreme drought.

Rather than reading what government wonks want you to believe. Trty reading about the LIA and drought. EG

"Still other regions experienced extended periods of drought, increased precipitation, or extreme swings in moisture. Many areas of northern Europe, for instance, were subjected to several years of long winters and short, wet summers, whereas parts of southern Europe endured droughts and season-long periods of heavy rainfall. Evidence also exists of multiyear droughts in equatorial Africa and Central and South Asia during the Little Ice Age.'

https://www.britannica.com/science/Little-Ice-Age

Xavier is right. A little global warming is not the harbinger of greater droughts.

But of course you are wedded to consensus over science.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:



And have always done so.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:



Dictators cause civil war. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:



Yep Putin stole grain from the Ukraine and gave it to the states that support him.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:



What drought amelioration projects have you in mind? You can't fill dams in drought.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:


So now they recognise the effect? Normal people have recognised that fact for hundreds of years.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:



So quote the evidence.

Edit: "None of the models that included temperature as a covariate outperformed a null hypothesis in which conflict levels at any given time were determined only by previous levels. Thus, we found no evidence that colder temperatures led to more conflict in Europe during the second millennium CE. When this finding is placed alongside the results of other studies that have examined temperature and conflict over the long term, it is clear that the impact of temperature on conflict is context dependent."

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-021-03022-2

So obviously no clear link.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:


Would be Dictators create political upheavals.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:


"Speaking on Ukrainian television on Tuesday, Taras Vysotsky said: 'We already have confirmation from each region - Zaporizhia region, Kherson region, Donetsk, Luhansk region - that about 100 thousand (tons of grain have been taken to Russia).'"

Edit2: https://theaseanpost.com/geopolitics/2022/jun/12/russia-stealing-and-selling-gra....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10781737/Putins-Holodomor-Russia-steals...

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 13^th, 2022 at 3:42pm:



You mean like the renewables that can't do all the desalination in WA?

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:


Mandate that they never happen again?
.
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:

"Global Drought Caused by Climate Change Can Lead to Conflict (in Yemen, Syria, Africa)
There is mounting evidence that climate change is creating the conditions for instability and poverty, two significant contributors to the outbreak of civil war and violence."

Do you understand the difference between "can" and "is"?


And yet they don't give it.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:


If it is Context dependent it is not climate change. Otherwise they would have said so.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:


Hooray we agree. That took some doing.

.thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:


Can not does.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:



thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 4:26pm:



Which ones have denied climate?

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:


Oh. You mean like WHO and sundry oythers already doing the job. Doubleup and Paymore. Sounds like a group of lawyers.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:


Now all you have to do is show that.

"This narrative assumes that there is a relationship between drought, migration and conflict. However, the connection is not so clear-cut. Our worry is that putting too much emphasis on the climate overlooks the role of political and socio-economic factors in determining a community’s vulnerability to environmental stress. Conflict is not inevitable in the face of drought."

"In the case of Syria, there has been no scientifically proven link between reduced rainfall or failed crops, and rural-urban migration. The evidence that has been used to prove the drought-migration link comes from displacement reports published by the Syrian government and UN assessment missions. The two phenomena are claimed to be linked because they coincided in time. Scientifically, however, this is not enough. "

"The drought which affected Syria has been described as a severe, multi-year drought that lasted between 2006 and 2010. But rainfall levels in 2006, 2007, 2009 and 2010 were close to normal, both in Syria as a whole and in the northeastern “bread basket” region. This suggests that only 2008 was a real drought year."

width=600ehight=400https://images.theconversation.com/files/177547/original/file-20170710-5989-11z9m8c.png
https://theconversation.com/is-syria-really-a-climate-war-we-examined-the-links-...

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:


Nope. Just more empty words.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:


And yet you don't provide evidence.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:


Nope. It DOES not.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 14^th, 2022 at 5:46pm:


So they didn't deny climate. They didn't even deny climate changes.

So you are just another liar.