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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #30 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:32pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 7:50am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2022 at 8:23pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2022 at 7:58pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 1st, 2022 at 7:41pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2022 at 7:36pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 11:31am:
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Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude


he wasn't the only one

King Kenneth Dubh – Black King of Scotland

A curious aspect of the early history of Scotland concerns various stories around Kenneth. King Kenneth was also known as ‘Kenneth the Niger’ or Kenneth Dubh, a surname which means ‘the black man’.




please Sore end, for your own, sake, go get your refund before it's to late.


You are clutching at straws John.


not clutching anything FD. It's a fact that blacks were not just slaves or peasants ... they sometimes made up the nobility


Are you really gullible enough to believe Scotland had an African King in the 900s? Do you think the elves and dwarves put him on the throne?



blow it out your arse FD. I put up the info. If you prefer to stay stupid you go for it.





So you are not gullible because you read it on the internet?


No, I'm not gullible because my name isn't FD.


Do you believe the crap you posted?
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Reply #31 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:12pm
 
One of Orwell’s best ideas is a thing called the “Memory Hole” into which we may consign all the horrific elements of our society and wipe them from history. These could include: the Daily Mail, all the Harry Potter novels, non vegan meals, the Conservative party, Sunderland and Toby Young.

Over the past two years, brave activists have followed Orwell’s advice and targeted a number of historical monuments for demolition. One of these is the statue in Parliament Square of that repugnant racist Winston Churchill. This is the man who literally forced citizens to travel abroad and shoot at Germans. How can that be anything other than xenophobic?

It’s so typical of a white man to free some slaves and assume we should be grateful

I have been particularly impressed by calls from academics at Imperial College to remove the bust of slavery abolitionist Thomas Henry Huxley. As an evil white male, it’s clear that he was only ever campaigning to end the slave trade as a cynical ploy to disguise his inherent racism.

And last year protesters in the United States also called for the toppling of statues of Abraham Lincoln in Washington and Boston. Just because Lincoln signed that “Emancipation Proclamation” doesn’t mean he should get a free pass for his white privilege.

Anyway, it’s so typical of a white man to free some slaves and assume we should be grateful. In fact, I think we should reinstate slavery immediately so that it can be abolished by a queer woman of colour.

So let’s bulldoze Buckingham Palace, tear up the gardens at Kew, and incinerate all libraries that contain harmful words. I also think we should remove that so called “statue of justice” on top of the Old Bailey, because if you squint your eyes it looks a bit like a swastika.

As Orwell explained: “Who controls the past controls the future.” She knew what she was talking about.
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Reply #32 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 2:35pm
 
Some West African Bantus get sold off by their country-men 'Dealers' (and innovators of Slavery) to one of the last foreign 'customers' in North America. Once freed in North America - they continue to 'blame' the Customer, rather than their own people - the Dealers.
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Reply #33 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 4:28pm
 
Anyone who has a problem with Denzel Washington playing MacBeth, should also have a problem with anyone playing MacBeth who is not speaking in Scottish (or in a Scottish accent) let alone Shakespeare's MacBeth having been translated into multiple languages and the character of MacBeth played by nearly every world ethnicity.

I think it was Richard Burton who quipped that no one had a problem when an English actor played a Roman, but when an American actor did the same, many people scoffed at their performance because Romans didn't speak with an American accent.
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Reply #34 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:21pm
 
And yet, if White Australians depicted themselves to perform as an Aboriginal tribe - all 'racism' hell would break loose then eh?

Yep - Black people can play white historical parts, but White people get called racists if they play black historical parts.
More 'mental abuse' by the Media.
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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #35 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:24pm
 
An African playing a Scotsman is not translation.

It's parochial American PC and pointless taking the fccn knee.
Absurd.

Africans, Asians, Arabs in the Midsummer Night's Dream, The Tempest - fine. Not mediaeval Scottish or English king's, queen's, nobles.
Moronic.
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Reply #36 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:28pm
 
Ethnic blindness is ancient.

Jesus has usually been depicted as and played by a northern European for thousands of years.

Macbeth was a Scotsman who spoke Scottish. It hasn't prevented actors from multiple ethnicities or cultures playing MacBeth in multiple languages.
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Reply #37 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 5:52pm
 
Ok for Black 'African' Americans (because Africa is for Black people only apparently) to play non-American historical roles of foreign nations.

...but not ok for White people to play 'Black' historical roles. That's racist!
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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #38 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:15pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:
I suppose we should remember the White fellas who donned blackface to play Indigenous Australians.  Perhaps the most infamous was a Kiwi - James Laurenson he played Detective Inspector Napoleon Bonaparte in the TV series "Bony" in 1970-72.

https://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploads/zceVg4M2boney-595x417-resize.JPG

Is he to be condemned?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The movie "Jedda" featured two white people that donned blackface to try and resemble indigenous Australians.
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Reply #39 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 11:53pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:
I suppose we should remember the White fellas who donned blackface to play Indigenous Australians.  Perhaps the most infamous was a Kiwi - James Laurenson he played Detective Inspector Napoleon Bonaparte in the TV series "Bony" in 1970-72.

https://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploads/zceVg4M2boney-595x417-resize.JPG

Is he to be condemned?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The movie "Jedda" featured two white people that donned blackface to try and resemble indigenous Australians.

Yes. And we know the backlash that got eh?
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Reply #40 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 7:56am
 
I wonder, what are Frank's objections to historical portrayals of Othello?
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Reply #41 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:18am
 
mothra wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 7:56am:
I wonder, what are Frank's objections to historical portrayals of Othello?



We KNOW you are stupid, Mother Miffy, no need to emphasise it.  The play's full title is Othello, the Moor of Venice.

Would you cast Brad Pitt as Othello? Or Laurence Olivier, in blackface?


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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #42 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:50am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 8:18am:
mothra wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 7:56am:
I wonder, what are Frank's objections to historical portrayals of Othello?



We KNOW you are stupid, Mother Miffy, no need to emphasise it.  The play's full title is Othello, the Moor of Venice.

Would you cast Brad Pitt as Othello? Or Laurence Olivier, in blackface?


https://www.arogundade.com/images/laurence-olivier-performance-blackface-othello...




Poor Frank. Cast adrift by the word "historical".

Amusing particularly to the onlooker because this is the base he is defending.

How it twists.

Here's what you need to accept, Frank, ol' son. Just like the tinted folk are free to hang a Van Gogh, they're free to embody the Bard.

I assure you, most people aren't paying as much attention to melanin content as you.
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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #43 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 9:01am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:
I suppose we should remember the White fellas who donned blackface to play Indigenous Australians.  Perhaps the most infamous was a Kiwi - James Laurenson he played Detective Inspector Napoleon Bonaparte in the TV series "Bony" in 1970-72.

https://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploads/zceVg4M2boney-595x417-resize.JPG

Is he to be condemned?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The movie "Jedda" featured two white people that donned blackface to try and resemble indigenous Australians.


It's called makeup.
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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #44 - Jan 3rd, 2022 at 9:24am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 3rd, 2022 at 9:01am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 2nd, 2022 at 1:45pm:
I suppose we should remember the White fellas who donned blackface to play Indigenous Australians.  Perhaps the most infamous was a Kiwi - James Laurenson he played Detective Inspector Napoleon Bonaparte in the TV series "Bony" in 1970-72.

https://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploads/zceVg4M2boney-595x417-resize.JPG

Is he to be condemned?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The movie "Jedda" featured two white people that donned blackface to try and resemble indigenous Australians.


It's called makeup.



No Fleadriver, makeup is used to don blackface.
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