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Reply #105 - Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:46pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:25pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:13pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 6th, 2022 at 11:00am:
You could argue that Shakespeare was the 'fake news guy' of the 16th and early 17th centuries!

You could argue that and it would make you stupidest mong for miles.


Yes, of course. Shakespeare's Richard III is history as it happened, As is Macbeth.

'My horse, my horse my kingdom for a horse' or 'Treason, treason treason'.



Your mind is mangled.

Literature - ever heard of the word?



Yes, of course, the eloquent can't lie.
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Reply #106 - Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:46pm
 
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Reply #107 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:21pm
 
The Formative Influence of Shakespeare on Freud and the Development of Psychoanalysis- A sold out event recorded at the Anna Freud Centre Library on 16 January 2013.

Behind Sigmund Freud’s desk chair in the Freud Museum London sits the central section of his library, his volumes of Shakespeare and Goethe. Shakespeare’s plays occupied a significant place on Sigmund Freud’s bookshelf for most of his life. He began reading Shakespeare when he was eight years old and quoted from the plays in letters to his friends, his colleagues and his beloved. He used lines from the plays to help him grasp difficult issues in his life such as failure and death. Most significantly, Shakespeare’s plays are part of the raw material from which Freud constructed psychoanalysis. Themes, images, plots, and lines from the plays are woven throughout the foundational texts of psychoanalysis in a way that suggests their formative influence. Freud’s intertextual relationship with Shakespeare took many forms including quotation, allusion and literary interpretation. Some of the allusions are deeply embedded in Freud’s texts in a manner that even Freud may not have been aware of.  This talk will explore the influence of Shakespeare on Freud and on the development of psychoanalysis. Christian Smith has recently completed his doctoral studies at the University of Warwick in the Department of English and Comparative Literary Studies. His thesis explores the formative influence of Shakespeare on Marxism, psychoanalysis and Frankfurt School Critical Theory.

https://www.freud.org.uk/2013/01/16/shakespeare-and-psychoanalysis/#:~:text=Shak...
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Re: Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude
Reply #108 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:19pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 6th, 2022 at 10:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:29pm:
Had I been giving a history lesson I would have mentioned these facts. However as I was merely replying to John Smiths assertion that Macbeth was a fictional character there was no necessity for such a detailed response. Merely noting that Macbeth existed, had been King of Scotland and the play had been broadly based on events in his life is enough. 

'Broadly' is generous.

Shakespeare was reinforcing James's right to rule (which was precarious anyway, given the Tudors themselves, before the Stuarts, were usurpers, the last of which, Elizabeth, had declared James her heir almost on her deathbed) by casting Macbeth as a weak schemer who took advice and was manipulated by women (even witches) into poisoning his rivals and enemies instead of taking the manly course of challenging him in battle (which is in fact what Macbeth did).

The agony of Gruoch with her guilt and suicide was to reinforce that Macbeth was not the rightful king of the Scots (which he was).

Given the Stewards, then Stewarts, then Stuarts were descended from Malcolm's family, it was a smart move by Shakespeare to cast Macbeth as weak, evil and craven.

Exactly what Shakespeare had done to the Plantagenets in favour of the Tudors by casting Richard III as weak, evil and craven and a child killer.


As you say Shakespeare has twisted historical events in several of his plays, however we must remember he was writing the soap operas of his day.  Popular entertainment was his aim, along with flattering the odd monarch or two.  Were he alive today he would be writing scripts for Home and Away or Neighbours.  Wink

Complete idiotic nonsense.

"We eat Maccas so everyone was eating Maccas through the ages. WE, fat, ignorant unlettered bozos, WE are the measure of all men".

Too stupid, too self-referentially stuck in the mud.




Macbeth act V scene V lines 27 to 28.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #109 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:54pm
 
If there was a black genetic infusion that long ago in the UK, why do Englishmen still have tiny white dicks?
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Reply #110 - Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:56pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:52pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 7th, 2022 at 9:19pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 6th, 2022 at 10:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:51pm:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 5th, 2022 at 6:29pm:
Had I been giving a history lesson I would have mentioned these facts. However as I was merely replying to John Smiths assertion that Macbeth was a fictional character there was no necessity for such a detailed response. Merely noting that Macbeth existed, had been King of Scotland and the play had been broadly based on events in his life is enough. 

'Broadly' is generous.

Shakespeare was reinforcing James's right to rule (which was precarious anyway, given the Tudors themselves, before the Stuarts, were usurpers, the last of which, Elizabeth, had declared James her heir almost on her deathbed) by casting Macbeth as a weak schemer who took advice and was manipulated by women (even witches) into poisoning his rivals and enemies instead of taking the manly course of challenging him in battle (which is in fact what Macbeth did).

The agony of Gruoch with her guilt and suicide was to reinforce that Macbeth was not the rightful king of the Scots (which he was).

Given the Stewards, then Stewarts, then Stuarts were descended from Malcolm's family, it was a smart move by Shakespeare to cast Macbeth as weak, evil and craven.

Exactly what Shakespeare had done to the Plantagenets in favour of the Tudors by casting Richard III as weak, evil and craven and a child killer.


As you say Shakespeare has twisted historical events in several of his plays, however we must remember he was writing the soap operas of his day.  Popular entertainment was his aim, along with flattering the odd monarch or two.  Were he alive today he would be writing scripts for Home and Away or Neighbours.  Wink

Complete idiotic nonsense.

"We eat Maccas so everyone was eating Maccas through the ages. WE, fat, ignorant unlettered bozos, WE are the measure of all men".

Too stupid, too self-referentially stuck in the mud.




Macbeth act V scene V lines 27 to 28.  Roll Eyes



So not Neighbours and Home and Away, then.

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Reply #111 - Apr 8th, 2022 at 9:49am
 
Jane Austen too wacist for Sterling Polytechnic in Scotland:



In response to the Marxist Black Lives Matter movement, celebrated English novelist Jane Austen has been replaced in a literature course by African American writer Toni Morrison in order to further the “decolonisation of the curriculum”.

An English module at Scotland’s Stirling University has decided to ditch Pride and Prejudice author Jane Austen in favour of left-wing poet and novelist Toni Morrison, whose works are focussed around racism against black people in the United States and who blamed Donald Trump’s presidential victory on white supremacy.

According to internal documents seen by The Telegraph, Stirling University scrapped the Sense and Sensibility writer in the lit programme in favour of Morrison in order to ensure the “decolonisation of the curriculum” and to “contribute to increased diversity”.

The nature of the course will reportedly change as well, with students taking the Special Authors module being told that “the main topics covered will include racial difference and critical race theory, gender and sexuality.”

The students will also be educated on “black postmodernism, Gothic, as well as the aesthetics of the contemporary US and African-American novel”.






How to switch young people off from reading - give them crap to read.

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Reply #112 - Aug 12th, 2022 at 10:36am
 

Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin

Tarzan will ALWAYS be white


because Disney doesn't have the balls to put a black man on screen acting like an ape



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Reply #113 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 12:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 11:31am:
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Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude


he wasn't the only one

King Kenneth Dubh – Black King of Scotland

A curious aspect of the early history of Scotland concerns various stories around Kenneth. King Kenneth was also known as ‘Kenneth the Niger’ or Kenneth Dubh, a surname which means ‘the black man’.




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It means dark haired man.  Roll Eyes

Duin do bheal agus falbh a ghabhail do ghnuis airson cac. Grin
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Reply #114 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 4:25pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 17th, 2022 at 12:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 11:31am:
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Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude


he wasn't the only one

King Kenneth Dubh – Black King of Scotland

A curious aspect of the early history of Scotland concerns various stories around Kenneth. King Kenneth was also known as ‘Kenneth the Niger’ or Kenneth Dubh, a surname which means ‘the black man’.




please Sore end, for your own, sake, go get your refund before it's to late.


It means dark haired man.  Roll Eyes

Duin do bheal agus falbh a ghabhail do ghnuis airson cac. Grin



sorry, my scottish is limited to  'ya canna handa mana granda spanna'
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Reply #115 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 6:26pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 9th, 2022 at 2:54pm:
If there was a black genetic infusion that long ago in the UK, why do Englishmen still have tiny white dicks?


That's because men with big dicks only rule a flock of goats and cows in Africa.
While small dicks rule nations of people like Emperor Hirohito did.
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Reply #116 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 6:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2022 at 4:25pm:
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 17th, 2022 at 12:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 11:31am:
Quote:
Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude


he wasn't the only one

King Kenneth Dubh – Black King of Scotland

A curious aspect of the early history of Scotland concerns various stories around Kenneth. King Kenneth was also known as ‘Kenneth the Niger’ or Kenneth Dubh, a surname which means ‘the black man’.




please Sore end, for your own, sake, go get your refund before it's to late.


It means dark haired man.  Roll Eyes

Duin do bheal agus falbh a ghabhail do ghnuis airson cac. Grin



sorry, my scottish is limited to  'ya canna handa mana granda spanna'

It's not only your Scottish that's limited, planks. In your case, the limited goes all the way down.
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Reply #117 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 6:32pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2022 at 4:25pm:
John_Taverner wrote on Aug 17th, 2022 at 12:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 28th, 2021 at 11:31am:
Quote:
Medieval Scottish lord was a black dude


he wasn't the only one

King Kenneth Dubh – Black King of Scotland

A curious aspect of the early history of Scotland concerns various stories around Kenneth. King Kenneth was also known as ‘Kenneth the Niger’ or Kenneth Dubh, a surname which means ‘the black man’.




please Sore end, for your own, sake, go get your refund before it's to late.


It means dark haired man.  Roll Eyes

Duin do bheal agus falbh a ghabhail do ghnuis airson cac. Grin



sorry, my scottish is limited to  'ya canna handa mana granda spanna'


Lol. It’s Gaelic, pronounced like garlic without the r.
Actually my first language, but I stopped using it when I went to school. Scots is a different language, closer to English.

Mac dubh is translated to macDuff.  It means son of Dubh (doo). I won’t translate what I said though.
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Reply #118 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 6:42pm
 
Isn't it really 'Gay-Lick' in pronounciation?
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Reply #119 - Aug 17th, 2022 at 9:28pm
 
All the woke, pwogwessive ijits are corporate stooges.



According to recent research by the Pull Agency, a brand consultancy, promotion that strains to impress consumers with a company’s progressive imprimatur is off-putting. You always suspected it, but now it’s official: woke advertising backfires.

In a survey of 2,000 representative Britons, 68 per cent of respondents were either ‘uneasy’ or ‘unsure’ about brands supporting fashionable left-wing causes such as climate change, BLM, LGBTQ+, diversity, equality, and female body confidence. Fifteen per cent would actively avoid purchasing the products of companies that publicly endorse those causes via ‘woke-washing’. To go out on a limb here, I’d venture that even the 32 per cent of respondents who claimed to want brands to posture politically in their promotions would rather watch Cravendale Milk’s hilarious 2011 advert ‘Cats with Thumbs’ than the trendily humourless Nike advert ten years later, in which a black lesbian student spurns the classics as representing ‘the patriarchy’ to celebrate ‘women of colour’ who ‘fight for social justice’.

When asked what companies should do to be socially responsible, 58 per cent of respondents ticked: ‘Pay their taxes, treat people fairly, respect the environment and not use it as a PR opportunity.’ In other words, rather than lecture us to behave well, behave well yourself; peddle your product, not your unconvincing high-mindedness. Only 15 per cent wanted companies to take a public stand on progressive causes.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/does-advertising-matter

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