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Dec 24th, 2021 at 8:04am
 
Language shapes and directs thought. This is a thread about linguistic shifts in our time. There are many, some wonderfully inventive, others sinister or pc.

Today I learned that being pissed and carrying on is actually an "alcohol disorder" and a mental health condition.




Waverley Local Court in Sydney’s east heard on Thursday that Mr X would look to deal with the domestic violence-related charges on mental health grounds.  The court previously heard Mr X had an alcohol disorder, which was a factor in some of his alleged offending.
Mr X's lawyer said he would look to deal with the matters under mental health provisions, which could see the charges dismissed on the basis Mr Slater gets ongoing treatment.



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Reply #1 - Dec 24th, 2021 at 11:28am
 

It all comes down to, if you are in one of the 'correct' and accepted social tribes.

Because if you are, vie hav vays of ensuing that you 'get a pass', and avoid all real accountability, for your 'unintentional', and forgivable, social 'faux pas'.

We forgive you.





Another example of moral equivocation on display, after wrongdoing, by two 'correct' ['unimpeachable'] persons,
each one hailing from a 'protected', 'virtuous tribe'.

Just lucky neither of them, were Christian Porter, eh !!!


Die faggots !! Die !!' - Yarra City councillor

Quote:

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“The Victorian Greens would like to emphasise that we do not condone violence or abuse in any form and condemn this vicious assault on a woman of colour **1.”

“In the aftermath of this event, the Victorian Greens want to assure all LGBTIQA+ Australians that we are with you, and will always fight discrimination, bigotry and abuse in all its forms **2......


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622286009/20#20


**1 = = 'victim' was an ISLAMIC woman

**2 = = 'victim' was a LGBTIQXYZ-er



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Reply #2 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 11:17am
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 11:28am:
**1 = = 'victim' was an ISLAMIC woman


I guess it's no surprise that yadda managed to bring his obsession over Muslims even into this thread

Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 8:04am:
Today I learned that being pissed and carrying on is actually an "alcohol disorder" and a mental health condition.

Waverley Local Court in Sydney’s east heard on Thursday that Mr X would look to deal with the domestic violence-related charges on mental health grounds.  The court previously heard Mr X had an alcohol disorder, which was a factor in some of his alleged offending.


Are you really that naive?
lawyers will put spin on anything to defend their client. If you are relying on defense lawyers to learn language you really should get out more
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Reply #3 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:20pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 11:17am:
Yadda wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 11:28am:

**1 = = 'victim' was an ISLAMIC woman



I guess it's no surprise that yadda managed to bring his obsession over Muslims even into this thread




Hey !!   It was     this ISLAMIC woman     who assaulted the LGBTIQXYZ-er.

And it was     this ISLAMIC woman     who was subsequently heard to threaten to kill all the 'faggots' [LGBTIQXYZ-ers],
because 'they' were LGBTIQXYZ-ers.

It was not Yadda.




Yadda is not guilty.

Yadda did not [and never has] assaulted the LGBTIQXYZ-er.

Yadda did not [and never has] threatened to kill all the 'faggots' [LGBTIQXYZ-ers].



It was that   ISLAMIC woman    who was accused
of that [ACTUAL] violence and,
of that threat [to KILL].



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Hey barnacle.

Got any other observations that you would like to share with us ?




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Reply #4 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 1:45pm
 
Princeton University's black academics' demands

Anti-Black racism has a visible bearing upon Princeton’s campus makeup and its hiring practices. It is the problem that faculty of color are routinely called upon to remedy by making ourselves visible; by persuading our white colleagues to overcome bias in hiring, admission, and recruitment efforts; and by serving as mentors and support networks for junior faculty and students seeking to thrive in an environment where they are not prioritized. Indifference to the effects of racism on this campus has allowed legitimate demands for institutional support and redress in the face of micro-aggression and outright racist incidents to go long unmet.

At this moment of massive global uprising in the name of racial justice, we the faculty—Black, Latinx, Asian, and members of all communities of color along with our white colleagues—call upon the University to take immediate concrete and material steps to openly and publicly acknowledge the way that anti-Black racism, and racism of any stripe, continue to thrive on its campus. We call upon the administration to block the mechanisms that have allowed systemic racism to work, visibly and invisibly, in Princeton’s operations. We call upon the University to amplify its commitment to Black people and all people of color on this campus as central to its mission, and to become, for the first time in its history, an anti-racist institution.

We urge you to acknowledge and give priority to the following demands:

2.  Form an internal committee of faculty and students of color to whom the University, in carrying out this work, remains accountable.

15.  Remove questions about misdemeanors and felony convictions from admissions applications, and all applications to work and/or study at Princeton. In recognition that mass incarceration and predatory policing not only menace the safety of all people of color at the University and their families but also hinder our community's progress towards racial justice, heed the Princeton Faculty Call to Action to Divest from Private Prison and Detention Corporations.

16. Don't ever mention black crime, family breakdown, welfare dependency.


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Reply #5 - Apr 14th, 2022 at 10:35am
 
War connects nations and peoples in new  ways—either as allies, enemies, or refugees and asylum seekers. The result is a new exchange of words and worldviews.

Some expressions or words that have been idling in a language spring to life in war. Take the Gulf War and Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, who in 1990 described the conflict as the “mother of all battles.” The expression was a calque, or direct translation, from the Arabic umm al-ma‘ārik, and it had barely been used in English since the 1930s. Now there are countless new adaptations—mother of all sanctions (against Russia), mother of all deadlines (Christmas), mother of all recessions (1992) and so on.

The word mud, now a slang term for heroin, entered English in the First Opium War as slang for “opium.” It was a calque from Chinese, in which smoking opium was expressed as yān tu, or “smoke soil.”

As Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine, we saw BBC footage of Ukrainian grandmothers making Molotov cocktails. The original Molotov cocktail was Finnish slang for the makeshift hand grenades thrown at Soviet tanks when they entered Finland in 1939. Appropriating the pseudonym of the Soviet minister for foreign affairs Vyacheslav Molotov (molot means “hammer” in Russian), the cocktails were named in response to “Molotov’s breadbaskets”—containers carrying bombs used by the Soviets against Finland.

When the First World War ended, soldiers brought new language home with them: cheerio (which first appears in a letter from Rupert Brooke in 1914); salvage (as soldiers helped themselves to items left behind by fleeing civilians); civvies, non-uniform clothes; to tick off (first recorded in a letter from Wilfred Owen); scupper and rehab. The Second World War brought lurgy and VIP. Vietnam gave us clusterfcuk, the nasties, the enemy, and klicks for kilometre. Time will reveal the full extent of the impact of the war in Ukraine on the English language.
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/columns/how-war-shapes-language
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Reply #6 - Apr 14th, 2022 at 11:00am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 10:35am:
As Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine, we saw BBC footage of Ukrainian grandmothers making Molotov cocktails.

Babusya bombs?

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Reply #7 - Nov 7th, 2022 at 5:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 8:04am:
Language shapes and directs thought. This is a thread about linguistic shifts in our time. There are many, some wonderfully inventive, others sinister or pc.




Words
On the ABC nowadays every broadcast is from some Gadigal Land or Cammeragay Land or some other unknown Aboriginal name for wherever there are ABC studios.


Also, in every media outlet, any Aborigine is identified a 'proud [their tribe's name here] man/woman'.  What if everyone else started saying what tribe or region their great grandparents came from? 'Proud Dorset man, proud Shopshire Lad, proud Aarhus, Randers & Skanderborg man, proud Vaud woman' etc.

Attitude/sentiment
The other thing that hit my ears yesterday was the gushing about how fascinating Europeans would have found things Australian. It was about Josephine Bonaparte's private garden at Château de Malmaison. I never hear about Aborigines finding European things like the printing press or the automobile 'fascinating'. You never hear about Aborigines eagerly taking up any of the new things Europeans brought. Europeans are gushingly fascinated and amazed by Aboriginal ways but Aborigines can't be fagged about any of the new things Europeans have brought. All just white fella devilry. The language is always about Aborigines improving Europeans and never, on pain of death, can anything be said the other way around. You never hear, 'thank god the European put an end to the practice of x and brought y, z and w to make life better'. It is an utter taboo. i
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Reply #8 - Nov 7th, 2022 at 5:26pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 11:00am:
Frank wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 10:35am:
As Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine, we saw BBC footage of Ukrainian grandmothers making Molotov cocktails.

Babusya bombs?



That sound menacing....



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Reply #9 - Nov 10th, 2022 at 8:39am
 
Fun and Funny appeared in the lexicon in circa 1750, Of course they would have been in use before that. But one is a noun and the other an adjective. They do not pertain to the same thing as the first is about pleasure and the second is about something which is humourous. Pleasure does not necessarily cause laughter.
Now we hear Americans using Fun as an adjective. "That was so "fun." No matter how many times I hear it, it sounds clumsy to me. Where I would say "that was so much fun," it remains a noun.

And then we hear of one thing being "funner" than another, but I think this is chosen because it sounds funny.
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Reply #10 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 11:00am
 
he Australian Broadcasting Commission’s wokerati want me to use Aboriginal words in my everyday discourse. They’d like me to say at dinner parties that I grew up in Boorloo (formerly called “Perth”), moved to the press gallery in Ngunnawal Country (“Canberra”) and finally settled down in Naarm (formerly “Melbourne”) out near ‘Mirring-gnay-bir-nong’, (“Maribyrnong”) which translates as ‘I can hear a ringtail possum’.

As the ABC puts it in their 2019-22 Reconciliation Action Plan (RAP), it wants Aboriginal languages and cultures normalised to become a part of my daily life, creating openings “to start conversations and to embrace and form personal connections with Australia’s ancient cultures.” (p6).

The ABC’s inescapable avalanche of Aboriginal words and acknowledgements and tributes is, it says, just

the first stage of a longer journey … The overarching project of fostering a richer and more inclusive national conversation that the ABC is committing to will take many years and will continue beyond the end of this Elevate RAP and into the next. It is one small contribution to the broader journey to reconciliation. (p6).

A key goal is indoctrinating small kids to kow-tow to the Aboriginal Industry. For example, ABC Kids launched 27 episodes of Little Yarns where tots learn a word of two while absorbing the ABC’s version of Aboriginality – “family, nature, culture and belonging.”[1] Play School took up the pledge with “Specials…including the landmark episode, Acknowledgement of Country, celebrating Aboriginal culture and language.”[2]


ABC classroom materials combine the usual Disneyfied version of Aboriginal culture with wallows in victimhood and massacres.
....


The language push, incidentally, seems to involve yet another revenue stream for the Aboriginal Industry. The ABC’s dousing of words onto their airwaves is always preceded by “rights and release forms enabling Indigenous communities to retain the copyright and ownership of their cultural knowledge and languages.”
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/aborigines/2022/12/the-aborigines-lost-in-transl...

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Reply #11 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 1:49pm
 
I had some tatted drug/alcohol scum get violent with me, claiming his 'mental health' disorders were an excuse to do so.

I responded, before nearly removing both his eyeballs from his sockets - that I'm not in the Medical Industry, so I don't have to give a rats about his mental health excuses.
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He sincerely apologised in order to keep his eyesight and thanked me for it, as I walked away.

See. A bit of 'discipline' and physical stimulation goes a long way with the mentally challenged.
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Reply #12 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 7:49pm
 

"Should of"/"could of".  Plain wrong, but they arise because we tend to
pronounce the phrases as should’ve and could’ve, so the phonetic effect
has overtaken the correct form.  Shoulda, coulda…

“I got it for free” is a pet hate.  You got it “free” not “for free.”  You don’t
get something cheap and say you got it “for cheap” do you?

“I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less” has to be the worst.
Opposite meaning of what they’re trying to say.  Duh.

“Reach out to” when the correct word is “ask.” For example: “I will reach
out to Bruce and let you know if that timing is convenient.”   Reach out?
Is Bruce stuck in quicksand? Is he teetering on the edge of a cliff?  Can’t
we just ask him?

When you pronounce the "h" in ‘house’, ‘herd’ and 'horse' but not ’herbs'.
Explain yourselves, America!

What kind of word is “gotten”?   It makes me shudder.  It's ugly.

Another annoying Americanism is “a million and a half” when it is clearly
one and a half million!  A million and a half is 1,000,000.5, where one and
a half million is 1,500,000.

"In back of".  Another Americanism which means "behind".  Like their English.

"Outside of the hotel".  Nope.  Just "outside the hotel".

"When on a plane run by an American airline and they say ‘the plane will
be taking off momentarily.’  As an Aussie that means for a brief period of
time,  IE: only for a moment.

Why do Americans say "Excuse me" if they mishear something?  Did they
fart maybe?  What happened to "Pardon me" I didn't hear you?

Which brings us on to "like" as in: She was like, ‘I’m so over you’ and he
was like, ‘I don't care’.  Horrible.  Truly.

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Reply #13 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:24pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 7:49pm:
"Should of"/"could of".  Plain wrong, but they arise because we tend to
pronounce the phrases as should’ve and could’ve, so the phonetic effect
has overtaken the correct form.  Shoulda, coulda…

“I got it for free” is a pet hate.  You got it “free” not “for free.”  You don’t
get something cheap and say you got it “for cheap” do you?

“I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less” has to be the worst.
Opposite meaning of what they’re trying to say.  Duh.

“Reach out to” when the correct word is “ask.” For example: “I will reach
out to Bruce and let you know if that timing is convenient.”   Reach out?
Is Bruce stuck in quicksand? Is he teetering on the edge of a cliff?  Can’t
we just ask him?

When you pronounce the "h" in ‘house’, ‘herd’ and 'horse' but not ’herbs'.
Explain yourselves, America!

What kind of word is “gotten”?   It makes me shudder.  It's ugly.

Another annoying Americanism is “a million and a half” when it is clearly
one and a half million!  A million and a half is 1,000,000.5, where one and
a half million is 1,500,000.

"In back of".  Another Americanism which means "behind".  Like their English.

"Outside of the hotel".  Nope.  Just "outside the hotel".

"When on a plane run by an American airline and they say ‘the plane will
be taking off momentarily.’  As an Aussie that means for a brief period of
time,  IE: only for a moment.

Why do Americans say "Excuse me" if they mishear something?  Did they
fart maybe?  What happened to "Pardon me" I didn't hear you?

Which brings us on to "like" as in: She was like, ‘I’m so over you’ and he
was like, ‘I don't care’.  Horrible.  Truly.

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Reply #14 - Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 8:24pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Dec 12th, 2022 at 7:49pm:
"Should of"/"could of".  Plain wrong, but they arise because we tend to
pronounce the phrases as should’ve and could’ve, so the phonetic effect
has overtaken the correct form.  Shoulda, coulda…

“I got it for free” is a pet hate.  You got it “free” not “for free.”  You don’t
get something cheap and say you got it “for cheap” do you?

“I could care less” instead of “I couldn’t care less” has to be the worst.
Opposite meaning of what they’re trying to say.  Duh.

“Reach out to” when the correct word is “ask.” For example: “I will reach
out to Bruce and let you know if that timing is convenient.”   Reach out?
Is Bruce stuck in quicksand? Is he teetering on the edge of a cliff?  Can’t
we just ask him?

When you pronounce the "h" in ‘house’, ‘herd’ and 'horse' but not ’herbs'.
Explain yourselves, America!

What kind of word is “gotten”?   It makes me shudder.  It's ugly.

Another annoying Americanism is “a million and a half” when it is clearly
one and a half million!  A million and a half is 1,000,000.5, where one and
a half million is 1,500,000.

"In back of".  Another Americanism which means "behind".  Like their English.

"Outside of the hotel".  Nope.  Just "outside the hotel".

"When on a plane run by an American airline and they say ‘the plane will
be taking off momentarily.’  As an Aussie that means for a brief period of
time,  IE: only for a moment.

Why do Americans say "Excuse me" if they mishear something?  Did they
fart maybe?  What happened to "Pardon me" I didn't hear you?

Which brings us on to "like" as in: She was like, ‘I’m so over you’ and he
was like, ‘I don't care’.  Horrible.  Truly.

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