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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10811 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW. Reply #90 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 9:00am I must say that I was right there agreeing with you up until here (except for the "mild" Omicron reference and the Pfizer inclusion is debatable, of course): Quote: Thank God for the Common sense approach of the wonderful alpha male Mr perrotet You lost me after that.
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Reply #91 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 9:18am

Here's yet another example of what a reckless idiot your hero Dominic is, aqua.

NSW COVID-19 cases leap to over 3700 amid pleas for border rule changes

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The government is pleading for other states to change their entry rules, as holiday travellers clog testing queues.

Yeah, as if the other States (except WA) don't have enough Covid cases to deal with already - mainly thanks to NSW.

Looks like a lot of people are trying to escape NSW (and Victoria) at the moment. Can't say I blame them.

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But though the NSW government is calling for those requirements to be changed, it is so far refusing to back down on its resistance to re-imposing COVID-19 restrictions such as indoor mask-wearing.

Premier Dominic Perrottet said yesterday the health and wellbeing of NSW residents is the state's primary concern but no additional restrictions have been announced.

"We always said as we open up case numbers will increase, hospitalisations and ICU numbers will increase," he said.

The guy is a fricking comedian... surely he's just 'taking the piss' with a comment like that? Problem is, this whole escalating Covid disaster isn't even remotely funny.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW. Reply #92 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 9:19am We will be flying past India in new China-virus infections in a couple of days, India's new infections on 20/12 = 5,326. We have already flown past Indonesian's new infections, Indonesia on 20/12 = 133. But Australia is the highest jabbed country in the world. Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
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Reply #93 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 1:12pm:

grappler

have a look at the case numbers in the UK .
they are going straight up like a rocket.
doubling every 2 to 3 days.

the rest of the world will follow suit.

BUT

the numbers are coming down again just as quickly in south africa.
plummeting

AND

they did not have their hospitals over run.

omicron grows 70 x as concentrated in the throat as delta but hardly at all in the deep lungs

no pneumonia
no surge in hospital admissions

but every breath, every cough, every sneeze emits an enormous cloud.

we sill see massive numbers in the next month (if we are foolish enough to measure them).

what we should do is realise this is a golden opportunity to get a lot of long term immunity at very little cost.

you would have to be really really crumbley to be taken out by a sore throat and a blocked nose.

sadly, some people are so unfit they will be.

but its far far better to let omicron surge .

if we dont and we dont let it take over, we will see a spread of delta (15 x as deadly).

that would be insane

we need to let this run wild so that omicron can displace the more deadly variant.

mother nature is on our side and we should take full advantage of that.

if you find a friend with omicron, head over there asap for an exchange of life giving virus

That is one of the most irresponsible things you have ever said here.

Straight out of the anti-vaxxer hand book in fact.

And you're not an anti-vaxxer are you?

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Reply #94 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 10:44am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 3:15pm:

I believe the case numbers in New South Wales and Victoria (soon to be followed by all other States except WA) will only stop increasing when they reach the limit of how many tests can be done in a single day.

Probably getting close to that already since I've been hearing that NSW (and no doubt Victoria as well) have started to close down testing places.

Good plan - no testing places = no tests = no Covid cases.

Sounds like something the 'Noble Donald" would come up with. Roll Eyes

incorrect,

why waste 80 dollars a pop on a test which is meaningless.

we are learning to live with covid.

thank god , for the time being it is very very mild and not getting into lungs.

catch it whilst it is in this mild form

a more deadly variant may strike the virgins of WA and they will regret not getting this mild disease

You are irresponsible peddling that line of BS.

There is no proof its milder ... in fact evidence coming from study data is suggesting otherwise.

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These real-world findings corroborate what we already know about Omicron from laboratory findings – that it is able to evade part of the immune response triggered by vaccines.

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a study carried out by Imperial College London casts doubts on the cautious optimism shown by South African doctors. The paper, which is yet to be peer reviewed, looked at 333,000 cases, including 122,062 of Delta and 1,846 confirmed cases of the Omicron variant, through genome sequencing between November 29 and December 11, and found no evidence of a difference in the severity of symptoms or hospitalisations when compared with Delta. However, the data included only 24 hospitalisations of patients suspected of having the Omicron variant, with researchers acknowledging that “hospitalisation data remains very limited at this time”. Worryingly, Omicron was associated with a 5.4 times higher risk of reinfection compared with Delta. The study put the protection offered by a previous infection at around 19 percent and with a booster jab at between 55 and 80 percent.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/12/20/omicron-is-more-transmissible-but-...

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Reply #95 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 10:47am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 3:57pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 3:43pm:

Sorry, guys.

No-one's listening.

Especially Scotty from Marketing and Dom 'let it rip' Perrottet.

incorrect.

omicron would be infecting probaly way more then 3000.
it might be more like 30,000.

and if you go to hospital with appendicitis they are going to swab you and because there is so much about, you will be classed as a covid hospital occupant.

covid has niothing to do with your reasone for being in hospital.

as these numbers surge (and they will), we are going to see heaps of people in hospital who test positive.

it is of no consequence at all.

thank god the wonderful NSW premier understands what the bed wetting beta male cannot understand.

What.... 5 Minute Perrotte? Grin

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Reply #96 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 10:48am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 4:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 3:57pm:

thank god the wonderful NSW premier understands what the bed wetting beta male cannot understand.

Jody law - Twitter.

Keep scrolling... been asking nearly every day since early October... still no reply, of course.

dom is a superior man.
look how he stands up straight
leading the people of NSW to glory.

so sad WA wont have an ashes test.

human being are designed for adventure
they are not designed for safety

there is no safety
your destiny awaits and it cannot be outrun

He's another softcock happy clapper like the Grand Poobah Scotty Morriscum.

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Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW.
Reply #97 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 11:34am

Johnnie wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 9:19am:

We will be flying past India in new China-virus infections in a couple of days, India's new infections on 20/12 = 5,326.
We have already flown past Indonesian's new infections, Indonesia on 20/12 = 133. But Australia is the highest jabbed country in the world.

Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi

Oi oi oi, Mr Walker.

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Reply #98 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:12pm

We're doomed.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-22/nsw-records-3763-covid-19-cases-302-hospi...

NSW records 3,763 COVID-19 cases, 302 people in hospital

, updated 1h ago

NSW is the highest number of daily COVID-19 infections recorded in any Australian jurisdiction.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-22/victoria-covid-cases-melbourne-testing-si...

Victoria records 1,503 COVID-19 cases and six deaths after record day of testing

, updated 10m ago

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Reply #99 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:30pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 10:44am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 4:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Dec 21^st, 2021 at 3:15pm:

I believe the case numbers in New South Wales and Victoria (soon to be followed by all other States except WA) will only stop increasing when they reach the limit of how many tests can be done in a single day.

Probably getting close to that already since I've been hearing that NSW (and no doubt Victoria as well) have started to close down testing places.

Good plan - no testing places = no tests = no Covid cases.

Sounds like something the 'Noble Donald" would come up with. Roll Eyes

incorrect,

why waste 80 dollars a pop on a test which is meaningless.

we are learning to live with covid.

thank god , for the time being it is very very mild and not getting into lungs.

catch it whilst it is in this mild form

a more deadly variant may strike the virgins of WA and they will regret not getting this mild disease

You are irresponsible peddling that line of BS.

There is no proof its milder ... in fact evidence coming from study data is suggesting otherwise.

Quote:

These real-world findings corroborate what we already know about Omicron from laboratory findings – that it is able to evade part of the immune response triggered by vaccines.

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a study carried out by Imperial College London casts doubts on the cautious optimism shown by South African doctors. The paper, which is yet to be peer reviewed, looked at 333,000 cases, including 122,062 of Delta and 1,846 confirmed cases of the Omicron variant, through genome sequencing between November 29 and December 11, and found no evidence of a difference in the severity of symptoms or hospitalisations when compared with Delta. However, the data included only 24 hospitalisations of patients suspected of having the Omicron variant, with researchers acknowledging that “hospitalisation data remains very limited at this time”. Worryingly, Omicron was associated with a 5.4 times higher risk of reinfection compared with Delta. The study put the protection offered by a previous infection at around 19 percent and with a booster jab at between 55 and 80 percent.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/12/20/omicron-is-more-transmissible-but-...

incorrect.

it appears to be 10 % to 20 % as bad as delta.

this is a gift.

this is a window of opportunity

catch this as quickly as you can before you get delta

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Reply #100 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:46pm

Wonder what the daily Covid cases for Queensland are today (from yesterday, actually)?

Annastacia Palaszczuk - Twitter

Strange... Annastacia... sorry, her social media team has usually announced them long before now.

Might be bad news? And, I'm sure they don't want to ruin everyone's Christmas (well, more than it has been already for lots of people and businesses).

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37627 Gender:	Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW. Reply #101 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:52pm not bad at all carrl. lets hope its thousands of omicrons , so we can get this over and done with before some deadly mutant arrives in time to devestate perth
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118482 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW. Reply #102 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:58pm aquascoot wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 12:52pm: not bad at all carrl. lets hope its thousands of omicrons , so we can get this over and done with before some deadly mutant arrives in time to devastate perth People are dying like flies. We're doomed to all get Omicron. It's more infectious than measles.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118482 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW. Reply #103 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 1:06pm Actually - only 2 deaths in NSW. NSW has recorded 3,763 COVID-19 cases and two deaths ahead of the national cabinet meeting convening to address the rise in infection numbers.
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Cases high in Victoria and NSW. Reply #104 - Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 3:52pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2021 at 1:06pm: Actually - only 2 deaths in NSW. NSW has recorded 3,763 COVID-19 cases and two deaths ahead of the national cabinet meeting convening to address the rise in infection numbers. One of those deaths was vaccinated
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