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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37920 Gender:	Which One to Buy Nov 29^th, 2021 at 5:15pm
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21873 Gordon Gender:	Re: Which One to Buy Reply #1 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Which One to Buy Reply #2 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:44pm Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm: Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety. Based on Bananafingers Haji Gordon driving a second-hand petrol engine SUV?
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Which One to Buy Reply #3 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:52pm Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm: Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety. Their quality control is cr@p, but Jeeps arent much better.
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Reply #4 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:55pm

rhino wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm:

Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety.

Their quality control is cr@p, but Jeeps arent much better.

The old model Jeep was in production for too long and in the end didn't measure up. They say that the current model is ok. They are always costly on maintenance.

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Reply #5 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 10:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:55pm:

rhino wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm:

Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety.

Their quality control is cr@p, but Jeeps arent much better.

The old model Jeep was in production for too long and in the end didn't measure up. They say that the current model is ok. They are always costly on maintenance.

I suggest you look at actual owner reviews, 75 percent of owners give it a one star rating out of 5 .
https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/jeep-dealers

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Which One to Buy Reply #6 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 10:36pm Tesla's period of grace is over and owners are starting to complain about the quality. American manufactured cars, even the luxury models, do not get good reports from owners on reliability and quality.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Which One to Buy Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 1:10am Teslas are a con job.
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Reply #8 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 6:59am

rhino wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm:

Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety.

Their quality control is cr@p, but Jeeps arent much better.

Jeeps get a bad rap because the importer was utter crap and made people jump thru hoops for warranty so any issues are magnified to the extent they close to trashed the brand in Australia.

Apparently they got a please explain from USA and have improved customer service a bit.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Which One to Buy Reply #9 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 11:01pm Jeeps look great but they don't hold up and even when new the ride sucks: I ride in a friend's top-of-the-line Jeep Wrangler and I feel like what I imagine a pioneer in a horse-drawn wagon must have felt.
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Reply #10 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 11:18pm

AiA wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 11:01pm:

Jeeps look great but they don't hold up and even when new the ride sucks: I ride in a friend's top-of-the-line Jeep Wrangler and I feel like what I imagine a pioneer in a horse-drawn wagon must have felt.

I wouldn't use the description "top-of-the-line" for any Jeep Wrangler. They all look like WW2 salvage.

We have flushed out a Jeep owner.

Gordon wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 6:59am:

Jeeps get a bad rap because the importer was utter crap and made people jump thru hoops for warranty so any issues are magnified to the extent they close to trashed the brand in Australia.

Apparently they got a please explain from USA and have improved customer service a bit.

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Reply #11 - Dec 1^st, 2021 at 8:42am

Gordon wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 6:59am:

rhino wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm:

Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety.

Their quality control is cr@p, but Jeeps arent much better.

Jeeps get a bad rap because the importer was utter crap and made people jump thru hoops for warranty so any issues are magnified to the extent they close to trashed the brand in Australia.

Apparently they got a please explain from USA and have improved customer service a bit.

A friend of mine has several jeeps, at any given time one is off the road for repairs.
Mind, they don't treat their cars very nicely.
They used to own a limo service for years, loved the Chrysler limos, but the hummers were problem prone.
They went to jeeps for a while, but again reliability was a problem.

However, one of my sons in law owns a jeep and has had it for about 3 years.
The only thing that has gone wrong was a flat tyre, and you cant blame the vehicle for that.

I drove Fords, Holdens and Toyotas as company cars for nearly 30 years.
Only the Toyotas performed without needing repairs on a reasonably regular basis.
I was doing over 70 to 100k a year, but I never pushed them or abused them.

Still, Id never buy a jeep, Ford, Holden or Mazda and Id think twice about a Nissan or Mit.

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Reply #12 - Dec 1^st, 2021 at 9:48am

AiA wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 11:01pm:

Jeeps look great but they don't hold up and even when new the ride sucks: I ride in a friend's top-of-the-line Jeep Wrangler and I feel like what I imagine a pioneer in a horse-drawn wagon must have felt.

If Jeep Wrangler, that's by design because they're actually a very good off roader and should only be owned by serious adventurers or inner-city lumbersexuals and should come standard with a kidney belt.

The Grand Cherokee is a different beast altogether.

I was a Jeep mocker until I drove as a passenger in one last year. A cashed up bogan builder I know has a top of the range 6L supercharged V8 as his daily driver/family/boat tower.

He told me it's quicker than his Maserati (he's a very cashed up bogan) and I said get back on the crack pipe ya bogan. I looked it up and yes, that car is insanely fast and it's just gorgeous to drive. And no, I don't and never have owned a Jeep

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Reply #13 - Dec 2^nd, 2021 at 12:48am

Gordon wrote on Dec 1^st, 2021 at 9:48am:

If Jeep Wrangler, that's by design because they're actually a very good off roader and should only be owned by serious adventurers or inner-city lumbersexuals and should come standard with a kidney belt.

Yep, every Wrangler owner I know secretly is a "lumbersexual" and rides on smooth roads with oversized all-terrain tires on a lifted vehicle. Surprising how many parents buy these vehicles for their teenage daughters.

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Reply #14 - Dec 2^nd, 2021 at 2:11am

Valkie wrote on Dec 1^st, 2021 at 8:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 6:59am:

rhino wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 9:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:06pm:

Chinese cars have the gadgets but they're skimping on passenger safety.

Their quality control is cr@p, but Jeeps arent much better.

Jeeps get a bad rap because the importer was utter crap and made people jump thru hoops for warranty so any issues are magnified to the extent they close to trashed the brand in Australia.

Apparently they got a please explain from USA and have improved customer service a bit.

A friend of mine has several jeeps, at any given time one is off the road for repairs.
Mind, they don't treat their cars very nicely.
They used to own a limo service for years, loved the Chrysler limos, but the hummers were problem prone.
They went to jeeps for a while, but again reliability was a problem.

However, one of my sons in law owns a jeep and has had it for about 3 years.
The only thing that has gone wrong was a flat tyre, and you cant blame the vehicle for that.

I drove Fords, Holdens and Toyotas as company cars for nearly 30 years.
Only the Toyotas performed without needing repairs on a reasonably regular basis.
I was doing over 70 to 100k a year, but I never pushed them or abused them.

Still, Id never buy a jeep, Ford, Holden or Mazda and Id think twice about a Nissan or Mit.

mazdas are abut the best car on the road.
Toyota still rigth there.
Kias/hyundais very good, longevity might not be so good.
Hondas good.
Mitsis good.

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