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Reply #60 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 9:22am
 
Actually, if you want to go directly to the main source of all of these problems its overpopulation.

Governments and big business pushing for more and more migrants with the corresponding increase in house prices and rents, pollution, congestion, overloaded health systems and a general reduction in the quality of life for everyone.

But, hey... as long as the money keeps rolling in (for governments and big business) who cares about the general population who are just 'pawns' in the game to be milked of their hard earned dollars at every opportunity.
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Reply #61 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 9:23am
 
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Reply #62 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 4:35pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 13th, 2021 at 8:50am:
It's not due to cost cutting by governments
Health expenditure has risen more than the rate of inflation every year for the last two decades



it has nothing to do with inflation. Bring in an extra 200 000 people a year, you need more doctors, nurses, hospitals, beds, band aids, panadol and whatever else the frk you need to keep them alive. NONE of that stuff is cheap, especially when the suppliers find out govco is paying.
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Reply #63 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 5:15pm
 
Actually, prices charged to govco.au are cheap—our government places one order for all medicines needed, pretty much, for a year. Quantity gets big discounts!
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Reply #64 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 5:36pm
 
The grim numbers.



The current population of Sweden is 10,189,927.
The number of Covid deaths is  15,158.

The current population of Australia is 25,925,643.
The number of Covid deaths is 2,104.

If we would have followed Sweden we would have had
25.9/10.2 * 15,158 =  38,489 deaths.

Therefore by following our policies we have saved:
38,489 - 2,104 =  36,385 people from dying.


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Reply #65 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 5:46pm
 
Little Bobby can use a calculator! Say what you like, the idiot IS making progress!
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Reply #66 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 5:55pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 13th, 2021 at 5:46pm:
Little Bobby can use a calculator! Say what you like, the idiot IS making progress!



Monk - I will drive out your demons:

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Reply #67 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 6:03pm
 
Piss off you antisocial personality disorder creep!
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Reply #68 - Feb 16th, 2022 at 2:10pm
 
Did Sweden declare the pandemic is over last week?
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Reply #69 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 5:50pm
 
Sweden did much better than the UK and Europe. Smiley

Boris wanted to follow Sweden with Herd immunity yet the hysterical media resulted in the UK following a Political science method that was worse in the long run.



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Reply #70 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 6:17pm
 
indeed baron.

vaccines wane quickly and eventually we will have to face the omnicold

no big deal.

the general public are already bored with it.

its like trying to scare people with the Y2K problem in february 2000
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Reply #71 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 7:43pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 6:17pm:
indeed baron.

vaccines wane quickly and eventually we will have to face the omnicold

no big deal.

the general public are already bored with it.

its like trying to scare people with the Y2K problem in february 2000


Incorrect.

The general public are being gaslighted by governments (both here and overseas) into believing the COVID-19 pandemic is over when nothing could be further from the truth.

And, sadly (and tragically) the general public seems to be falling for it.

Here's a bit of interesting trivia I was reading a week or two back - in past pandemics (including the inaccurately named Spanish Flu over a hundred years ago) the third year has always been the worst with deaths and hospitalisations, etc.

Now, which year are we up to with Covid? Oh, yeah... number three.
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Reply #72 - May 4th, 2022 at 9:04pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 8:16pm:


Deaths per million citizens.

Sweden - 1490. 
Australia - 77.


Yep, the Swedes are crushing it alright.... Roll Eyes





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Reply #73 - May 4th, 2022 at 11:18pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Nov 28th, 2021 at 8:16pm:


Deaths per million citizens.

Sweden - 1490. 
Australia - 77.


Yep, the Swedes are crushing it alright.... Roll Eyes







Not really a fair comparison with Australia. We could see what was happening in Europe we closed our border which is easy to do when you're an Island a long way from everyone.

We had more trouble keeping Victorians out of NSW and Qld despite state borders being closed.

How did Sweden compare to the UK or Europe data shows they had less deaths per million

Quote:
What Sweden Got Right About COVID


The U.S. botched the pandemic—overprotecting kids at low risk of serious illness and under-protecting older Americans. Stockholm pursued a light touch and fared far better.

April 19, 2022

While most countries imposed draconian restrictions, there was an exception: Sweden. Early in the pandemic, Swedish schools and offices closed briefly but then reopened. Restaurants never closed. Businesses stayed open. Kids under 16 went to school.

That stood in contrast to the U.S. By April 2020, the CDC and the National Institutes of Health recommended far-reaching lockdowns that threw millions of Americans out of work. A kind of groupthink set in. In print and on social media, colleagues attacked experts who advocated a less draconian approach. Some received obscene emails and death threats.Within the scientific community, opposition to the dominant narrative was castigated and censored, cutting off what should have been vigorous debate and analysis.

In this intolerant atmosphere, Sweden’s “light touch,” as it is often referred to by scientists and policy makers, was deemed a disaster. “Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale,” carped The New York Times. Reuters reported, “Sweden’s COVID Infections Among Highest in Europe, With ‘No Sign Of Decrease.’” Medical journals published equally damning reports of Sweden’s folly.

But Sweden seems to have been right. Countries that took the severe route to stem the virus might want to look at the evidence found in a little-known 2021 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The researchers found that among 11 wealthy peer nations, Sweden was the only one with no excess mortality among individuals under 75. None, zero, zip.

That’s not to say that Sweden had no deaths from COVID. It did. But it appears to have avoided the collateral damage that lockdowns wreaked in other countries. The Kaiser study wisely looked at excess mortality, rather than the more commonly used metric of COVID deaths. This means that researchers examined mortality rates from all causes of death in the 11 countries before the pandemic and compared those rates to mortality from all causes during the pandemic. If a country averaged 1 million deaths per year before the pandemic but had 1.3 million deaths in 2020, excess mortality would be 30 percent.

There are several reasons to use excess mortality rather than COVID deaths to compare countries. The rate of COVID deaths ignores regional and national differences.For example, the desperately poor Central African Republic has a very low rate of fatalities from COVID. But that’s because it has an average life expectancy of 53. People in their 70s are3,000-fold more susceptible than children to dying of COVID, and even people in their 20s to 50s are far less likely to die than the elderly. So, it’s no surprise that the Central African Republic has a low COVID mortality rate despite its poverty and poor medical care.

Excess mortality is the smart, objective standard. It includes all deaths, whether from COVID, the indirect effects of COVID (such as people avoiding the hospital during a heart attack), or the side effects of lockdowns. And it gets rid of the problem of underlying differences among countries, allowing a direct comparison of their performance during COVID.

Sweden had zero excess mortality in 2020 among people younger than 75. In other words, COVID wasn’t all that dangerous to young people.

Even among the elderly, Sweden’s excess mortality in 2020 was lower than that in the U.S., Belgium, Switzerland, the U.K., the Netherlands, Austria, and France. Canada, Germany, and Australia had lower rates than Sweden among people over the age of 70—probably because Sweden failed to limit nursing home visits at the very beginning of the pandemic.


More here- https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/04/19/what-sweden-got-right-about-covid/


History shows Sweden got it right. Their kids haven't been setback with mental health problems or slowing their eductation.

We had a 99.9% survival rate for those under 60 before mass vaccinations when Delta was dominant.
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