rhino wrote on Nov 30
th, 2021 at 7:56pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30
th, 2021 at 7:38pm:
rhino wrote on Nov 28
th, 2021 at 10:58pm:
Im curious why these idiots keep running this line when the facts say otherwise.
Quote:A year and a half after Sweden decided not to lock down, its COVID-19 death rate is up to 10 times higher than its neighbors
Sweden decided not to implement a full-scale lockdown during the pandemic.
It now has up to 10 times as many COVID-19 deaths per capita as its Nordic neighbors.
Sweden also didn’t fare much better economically, suggesting its gamble didn’t pay off.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/sweden-covid-no-lockdown-strategy-failed-high... You have to look at the bigger picture which might be difficult for those with simple minds this virus isn't going to be eliminated even Dickhead Dan in Victoria admits this his world record for lockdowns still has Vic around 1000 new cases a day.
The bigger picture is you dont know and I dont know the ultimate course of this virus anywhere, there have been countries where it appeared the number of cases was significantly increasing and now they are increasing. All we really know is that restricting contact between humans and practising basic hygiene is effective in controlling the spread. I also find it bizarre that given even highly educated and experienced scientists and physicians cannot agree on this and yet you and Aqua seem to think you have all the answers. What on earth do you see in the morning when you look in the mirror? The biggest genius of all time? Get a grip. You are not an oracle.
There were virologists saying months ago this virus will become endemic we will have to learn to live with it elimination is not going to happen. There were others hoping a vaccine would give us herd immunity which even the vaccine producers were saying months ago will not happen with these vaccines because they don't prevent transmission. Slowly those hoping for vaccine to give us herd immunity are conceding this virus will become endemic which is what the real experts have been saying all along.
Yes cases are increasing in highly vaccinated countries yet Japan and India who embraced Ivermectin saw massive declines in cases within 2 weeks of widespread use of Ivermectin and today both those countries are doing far better than those who rely on vaccine alone.
The thinking on how virus spreads has changed from droplets to aerosol so basic hygiene washing hands etc isn't going to do much because this virus is airborne which also means social distancing needs to be increased. Germany is probably the only country to mandate N95 masks because they know surgical masks don't work with aerosols they're good with droplets which was the outdated original thinking on how this virus was spread.
Being indoors with poor ventilation is the worst case scenario which explains why Vic with their world record lockdown has the worst result with cases and deaths in Australia. This dinner party saw 11 of 13 fully vaxxed people get infected.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-25/covid-exposure-warning-dinner-party-super...Sweden still cops criticism for going herd immunity route by letting it rip nobody knew back then that previous infection gives 13-27 times greater protection than any vaccine.
I did the numbers on Australia a few weeks ago 93% of our deaths were people over 60 with median age being 85. How many people over 60 would have some comorbidities?
The CDC data from the US showed most of their deaths had 6 or more comorbidities with the death rate dropping to 0.5 % for those with no comorbidities.
It looks like Sweden was on the right path even Boris in the UK wanted to go Herd immunity path before political pressure forced him to drop it and go lockdown route.
Those who deal with livestock like Aqua seem to grasp this herd immunity concept far better than city slickers.
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