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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20503 Gender:	Sweden Nov 28^th, 2021 at 7:21pm Sweden is looking good for the last couple of months compared to neighbors. They might be the only country to achieve herd immunity. Looks like they might have had the right approach.
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37607 Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #1 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 7:26pm yes baron, crushing it and social cohesion because the government treated them like adults and asked for "personal responsibility" they didnt treat them like naughty toddlers and lock them in their rooms in "time out"
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56500 Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #2 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 7:38pm But Swedes are a dying race anyway, as are most Skandis. Population growth is through Turkish and other immigrants that work as Serfs doing the house-cleaning. Most Swedes only have little white fluffy dogs for children.
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6135 Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #3 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 8:16pm Deaths per million citizens. Sweden - 1490. Australia - 77. Yep, the Swedes are crushing it alright....
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Reply #4 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 10:58pm

Im curious why these idiots keep running this line when the facts say otherwise.
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A year and a half after Sweden decided not to lock down, its COVID-19 death rate is up to 10 times higher than its neighbors
Sweden decided not to implement a full-scale lockdown during the pandemic.
It now has up to 10 times as many COVID-19 deaths per capita as its Nordic neighbors.
Sweden also didn’t fare much better economically, suggesting its gamble didn’t pay off.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/sweden-covid-no-lockdown-strategy-failed-high...

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #5 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 11:22pm Sweden deaths per million population 1472. Australia deaths per million population 78 Sweden's death rate is ~20x Australia's death rate. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-mil...
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #6 - Nov 28^th, 2021 at 11:45pm Dont you go putting facts in place of Aquas latest brain fart.
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Reply #7 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 1:48am

I look at all these graphs as just being a snap shot. If you look at us in Ireland we have gone from being the best in the world to the worst in the world several times.

I have never been to Sweden but other Scandanavians have told me that they are not as sociable as the others. Could that be part of the reason they are doing well now? Maybe in retrospect exposing children to the original variant by not closing the schools in the first wave is having positive effects now. In any case the virus is so much stronger now. I still cannot go with the herd immunity idea.

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Reply #8 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 6:34am

From March this year:

Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible

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It’s unclear whether vaccines prevent transmission

We've since found out they don't - they just keep you from ending up in hospital in the majority of cases.

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Vaccine roll-out is uneven

Yes, and its still uneven.

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New variants change the herd-immunity equation

Yes, especially since the appearance of Delta and now Omicron (not sure what happened to Lambda and Mu?).

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Immunity might not last forever

Yes, we've since found out that 'boosters' are needed.

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Vaccines might change human behaviour

Yes again... a lot of people believe the vaccines are some sort of 'silver bullet' which make Covid disappear... and governments are also pushing this idea because money and the economy is more important that peoples' lives as far as they are concerned. See NSW, South Australia, Victoria and, coming up - Queensland and Tasmania. With Scotty from Marketing 'cheering them on', of course.

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Even without herd immunity, the ability to vaccinate vulnerable people seems to be reducing hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19. The disease might not disappear any time soon, but its prominence is likely to wane.

Let's hope so.

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Reply #9 - Nov 29^th, 2021 at 8:04am

Irishman78621 wrote on Nov 29^th, 2021 at 1:48am:

I have never been to Sweden but other Scandanavians have told me that they are not as sociable as the others.

Yes. I'm told Danes and Germans ridicule them for it.

Australians are not like Scandinavians and Australia is not like Scandinavia.

Relative to northern Europe, we do not have a winter and the Australian culture is likely many times more interactive and many times more contemptuous of law that restricts our freedom of movement.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37607 Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #10 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:14pm 41 people in a serious condition at the moment in the whole of sweden with covid 4450 people in a serious condition at the moment in germany with covid. the swedes.... so successful, so much to be admired
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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10803 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Sweden Reply #11 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:20pm aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:14pm: the swedes.... so successful, so much to be admired Flights to Sweden - Skyscanner Would you like someone to drive you to the airport? Heck, I'd even be prepared to come over there from Perth, help you pack and drive you to the airport.
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Reply #12 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 4:24pm

Carl D wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:20pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 3:14pm:

the swedes.... so successful, so much to be admired

Flights to Sweden - Skyscanner

Would you like someone to drive you to the airport? Heck, I'd even be prepared to come over there from Perth, help you pack and drive you to the airport.

no, the superior man does not run away to a safer place.

he stays here in chodesville and tries to encourage the fatties to have some self respect, bounce out of bed and move out into the world with a spirit of adventure (like our pioneering fore fathers).

human beings were not built for safety and security, they wither on the vine if they have such low aims

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Reply #13 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 4:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

no, the superior man does not run away to a safer place.

he stays here in chodesville and tries to encourage the fatties to have some self respect, bounce out of bed and move out into the world with a spirit of adventure (like our pioneering fore fathers).

human beings were not built for safety and security, they wither on the vine if they have such low aims

Nietzsche would have liked Sweden... Plenty of ice, snow, isolated land and mountain peaks for him and his superior man to wander around.

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Reply #14 - Nov 30^th, 2021 at 4:53pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 4:50pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 30^th, 2021 at 4:24pm:

no, the superior man does not run away to a safer place.

he stays here in chodesville and tries to encourage the fatties to have some self respect, bounce out of bed and move out into the world with a spirit of adventure (like our pioneering fore fathers).

human beings were not built for safety and security, they wither on the vine if they have such low aims

Nietzsche would have liked Sweden... Plenty of ice, snow, isolated land and mountain peaks for him and his superior man to wander around.

one would hope that sort of life would be a richer experience then

The Chode likes lockdown and closed borders and being safe...plenty of processed carbs and netflix and tik tok and computer games and you dont even have to wander around...you can just lay on the couch and be pleasured

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