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Recycling of Lithium batterie
Oct 20th, 2021 at 2:12pm
 
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Study: Recycled Lithium Batteries as Good as Newly Mined  Cathodes made with novel direct-recycling beat commercial materials


Lithium-ion batteries, with their use of riskily mined metals, tarnish the green image of EVs. Recycling to recover those valuable metals would minimize the social and environmental impact of mining, keep millions of tons of batteries from landfills, and cut the energy use and emissions created from making batteries.

But while the EV battery recycling industry is starting to take off, getting carmakers to use recycled materials remains a hard sell. "In general, people's impression is that recycled material is not as good as virgin material," says Yan Wang, a professor of mechanical engineering at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. "Battery companies still hesitate to use recycled material in their batteries."

A new study by Wang and a team including researchers from the US Advanced Battery Consortium (USABC), and battery company A123 Systems, shows that battery and carmakers needn't worry. The results, published in the journal Joule, shows that batteries with recycled cathodes can be as good as, or even better than those using new state-of-the-art materials.

The team tested batteries with recycled NMC111 cathodes, the most common flavor of cathode containing a third each of nickel, manganese, and cobalt. The cathodes were made using a patented recycling technique that Battery Resourcers, a startup Wang co-founded, is now commercializing.

The recycled material showed a more porous microscopic structure that is better for lithium ions to slip in and out of. The result: batteries with an energy density similar to those made with commercial cathodes, but which also showed up to 53% longer cycle life.

While the recycled batteries weren't tested in cars, tests were done at industrially relevant scales. The researchers made 11 Ampere-hour industry-standard pouch cells loaded with materials at the same density as EV batteries. Engineers at A123 Systems did most of the testing, Wang says, using a protocol devised by the USABC to meet commercial viability goals for plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. He says the results prove that recycled cathode materials are a viable alternative to pristine materials.

EV batteries are complex beasts, and recycling them isn't easy. It involves either burning them using lots of energy, or grinding and dissolving them in acids. Most large recycling companies, which have mainly been recycling consumer electronics batteries, and upcoming battery-recycling startups use these methods to produce separate elements to sell to battery material companies, which will in turn make the high-grade materials for car and battery makers.

But the real value of an EV battery is in the cathode, Wang points out. Cathode materials are proprietary combinations of metals including nickel, manganese, and cobalt that are crafted into particles with specific sizes and structures.

Battery Resources' recycling technology produces various ready-to-use NMC cathode materials based on what a car company wants. That means selling the recycled materials could turn a profit, something recycling companies say can be hard to do. "We are the only company that gives an output that is a cathode material," he says. "Other companies make elements. So their value added is less."


https://spectrum.ieee.org/recycled-batteries-good-as-newly-mined


Good. There will be more of this and soon some of these materials will no longer be used.



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Re: Recycling of Lithium batterie
Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 3:16pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 2:12pm:
There will be more of this and soon some of these materials will no longer be used.


Still lithium. They will still burn.

But I did find this bit odd - " It involves either burning them using lots of energy" it doesn't take much energy to get them burning. The problem is in the stopping. Wink
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Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 4:11pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 2:12pm:
There will be more of this and soon some of these materials will no longer be used.


Still lithium. They will still burn.

But I did find this bit odd - " It involves either burning them using lots of energy" it doesn't take much energy to get them burning. The problem is in the stopping. Wink


I'm guessing 'them' is a typo. Looking at the entirety of the sentence "EV batteries are complex beasts, and recycling them isn't easy. It involves either burning them using lots of energy, or grinding and dissolving them in acids." 'then' would make much more sense. Burn the lithium to make Lithium oxide, then use "a lot of energy", like aluminium making, to turn it back into metal.

So I would say the sentence should be, "EV batteries are complex beasts, and recycling them isn't easy. It involves either burning, then using lots of energy, or grinding and dissolving them in acids."

Could be wrong of course but it at least makes sense.

They are working on zinc ion batteries.

Tech would be a better place for this.
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 4:31pm
 
Nah, all to do with preventing 1.5°C or 2°C warming above pre-industrial levels. Those who think coal mining is excellent pretend to be shocked by lithium and cobalt mining etc.

We are starting to see recycling as the renewable energy industry matures.
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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 4:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
Nah, all to do with preventing 1.5°C or 2°C warming above pre-industrial levels. Those who think coal mining is excellent pretend to be shocked by lithium and cobalt mining etc.

We are starting to see recycling as the renewable energy industry matures.


Nah, what? What are you saying nah to?
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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 6:17pm
 

If your Lithium battery will no longer hold a charge, and if it is removable from your device,
you may be able to revive the Lithium battery.

I've done this, and it worked for me.



WWW search.....
put in freezer, Lithium battery, to revive
Reviving Li-ion battery in freezer



Make sure that the battery it is completely dry, and also wrap it in several layers of plastic bag.

Leave the Lithium battery in a freezer for 2 or 3 days.

Take it out of the freezer.

Allow a couple of hours, for the battery to come to room temp, then try to recharge it.
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Reply #6 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 10:02am
 
lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 2:12pm:
There will be more of this and soon some of these materials will no longer be used.


Still lithium. They will still burn.

But I did find this bit odd - " It involves either burning them using lots of energy" it doesn't take much energy to get them burning. The problem is in the stopping. Wink



HAHA retard Leanne with the lead acid phone battery walking around with a shopping trolley all day cause its too heavy, Piss off with your garbage.
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Reply #7 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 10:03am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
Nah, all to do with preventing 1.5°C or 2°C warming above pre-industrial levels. Those who think coal mining is excellent pretend to be shocked by lithium and cobalt mining etc.

We are starting to see recycling as the renewable energy industry matures.


Its quite simple, Lee is a flog of epic proportions.
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Reply #8 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 4:51pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
Still lithium. They will still burn.



not like petrol, ehh Lee  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #9 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 5:15pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 4:51pm:
not like petrol, ehh Lee



That's right. Not like petrol. Hot enough to melt steel, toxic gases. They burn much hotter. Wink
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Reply #10 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:05pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 5:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 4:51pm:
not like petrol, ehh Lee



That's right. Not like petrol. Hot enough to melt steel, toxic gases. They burn much hotter. Wink


Dumb as dogshit, petrol will cut steel in a petro/oxy torch.

How long is your landline cord given you dont carry a phone ready to just explode at the drop of a hat?
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Reply #11 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:11pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 5:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 4:51pm:
not like petrol, ehh Lee



That's right. Not like petrol. Hot enough to melt steel, toxic gases. They burn much hotter. Wink



I'm sure the next time a petrol powered car goes up in flames the owners will be grateful for it

ya moron Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #12 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I'm sure the next time a petrol powered car goes up in flames the owners will be grateful for it



How about that lithium Powerwall parked in the garage with the car. Wink

But I can tell you one thing the Fire Brigade will be extremely grateful that it was not an EV fire.
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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:23pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I'm sure the next time a petrol powered car goes up in flames the owners will be grateful for it



How about that lithium Powerwall parked in the garage with the car. Wink



what about it? I've got dozens of potential fire risks in the house. If the house burns down I'm not going to sit there after the fire and say 'yes, it's burnt down, but imagine how much more burnt it would be if I had lithium batteries'  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

do you even realise how ridiculous you sound?
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Reply #14 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:39pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 7:23pm:
If the house burns down I'm not going to sit there after the fire and say 'yes, it's burnt down, but imagine how much more burnt it would be if I had lithium batteries'


If you had lithium batteries the chances are you wouldn't be breathing let alone laughing.
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