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Oct 13th, 2021 at 6:07am
 
Carbon border taxes could cost Australia at least $4.5 billion a year and 70,000 jobs: Report
October 13 2021 New Daily
Australia faces an annual $4.5 billion bill for inaction on climate change if major trading partners follow Europe and create their own carbon border taxes.

As the Morrison government continues to resist introducing a carbon price to reduce emissions, new research suggests Australian workers will soon be paying for one anyway through key exports like coal, iron and gas.

The Climate Council and Victoria University published a report on Tuesday forecasting 70,000 job losses in New South Wales and Queensland if big trading partners like the US, Japan, China and South Korea impose border tariffs on countries without carbon prices like Australia.

In a worst-case scenario, Australia could lose $4.5 billion in GDP every year.

Europe has already unveiled plans to create a so-called “carbon border adjustment mechanism” (CBAM), which Climate Council chief economist Nicki Hutley said will be the first of similar schemes in America and Asia.

“Other nations are saying, ‘if you don’t have a carbon price, we’ll impose one on your goods when they get to our country’,” Ms Hutley told TND.

“We’re going to see exports of targeted goods decline across the board.”



The research comes as Prime Minister Scott Morrison refuses to say if he will attend the Glasgow climate summit later this month amid talks with the Nationals, who are holding back their support for net-zero emissions by 2050.

The government has dismissed carbon border taxes as “protectionism”.

Mr Morrison advocates for a “technology, not taxes” approach to climate action, but new data shows he may be out of step with public opinion.

An annual survey of 2600 Australians published on Wednesday by The Australia Institute found 69 per cent think the government should set stronger targets and take more local action to deal with climate change.

“The majority of Australians want the federal government to move now on decisive climate action, rather than wait for other countries to act,” The Australia Institute’s climate and energy director Richie Merzian said.

Carbon prices are coming
The reality is that Australia may not have a choice about whether it pays a carbon price on key exports, Ms Hutley said.

The European Union is preparing to implement a CBAM policy by 2026, while China, the US, South Korea and Japan are also considering doing it.

Separate research has found as many as 43 Australian industries are exposed to carbon border tariffs, covering about $40 billion in exports.

A CBAM or carbon border tariff is essentially an import charge on the carbon produced by a particular export good like coal, aluminium or gas.

Under the European proposal, countries without carbon prices will have to pay the tariffs on imported goods to ensure all emissions are covered.

Ms Hutley estimates that if G7 nations, South Korea and China create a CBAM policy then Australia could lose $4.5 billion from annual GDP.



Queensland and New South Wales would be heavily affected as exports to key markets would fall in response to the tariffs, with an estimated 20,000 jobs at risk in NSW and 50,000 exposed in Queensland, the report concluded.

Ms Hutley said other nations could implement CBAMs within five years in a bid to meet ambitious emissions reduction targets after Glasgow.

“We’re going to see exports fall in all the industries hit,” she said.

“The economy will adjust over time into non-carbon-intensive industries, but what’s left behind in the wake of that is really big impacts.”

More than 64 jurisdictions around the world now have their own carbon pricing schemes, with China becoming the largest carbon market in the world following the launch of its policy earlier this year.

Nations with such schemes are encouraged to create border tariffs to ensure products they import do not escape their carbon pricing regimes.

Taylor: ‘Back door idea’ for carbon tax
Energy Minister Angus Taylor dismissed the prospect of carbon taxes in a speech to the Centre for Economic Development Australia (CEDA) on Tuesday, likening carbon border tariffs to a “back door” carbon price.

“We like carrots, not sticks, because the sticks have to be paid for by middle Australia,” he said.

In response to a question from the audience, the minister added: “If you create an artificial market then you’re a central planner.

“You’re raising costs, and that’s what we don’t want to do.”

Mr Taylor said the Australian public had made it clear at the ballot box they did not want to see higher power prices from climate action.

But The Australia Institute’s annual climate survey on Wednesday found that more Australians believe higher power prices over the past decade are the result of government policy uncertainty than of action on climate change.

Most Australians blame privatisation for higher electricity prices, while just 28 per cent believe higher prices are driven by renewable energy.

About 24 per cent said prices are higher because coal power is closing and we have “no clear plan” to replace it, while 38 per cent blamed poor government policy making or uncertainty about government policies.

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Reply #1 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:11am
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:14am
 
whiteknight wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 6:07am:
The Climate Council and Victoria University published a report on Tuesday forecasting 70,000 job losses in New South Wales and Queensland
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big trading partners like the US, Japan, China and South Korea impose border tariffs on countries without carbon prices like Australia.




That's a big IF. For a Carbon Tax to have any effect on emissions, the big polluters have to implement the taxes on their own industry, and that is by no means a done-deal. Until China, India, and the US establish these taxes, I will not vote for it in Australia, which would otherwise have little effect on global warming.

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Reply #3 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:39am
 
issuevoter wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:14am:
whiteknight wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 6:07am:
The Climate Council and Victoria University published a report on Tuesday forecasting 70,000 job losses in New South Wales and Queensland
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big trading partners like the US, Japan, China and South Korea impose border tariffs on countries without carbon prices like Australia.

That's a big IF. For a Carbon Tax to have any effect on emissions, the big polluters have to implement the taxes on their own industry, and that is by no means a done-deal. Until China, India, and the US establish these taxes, I will not vote for it in Australia, which would otherwise have little effect on global warming.


Little effect is more important than none at all. However, is must be comforting to reduce a complex situation down to a simplistic stance such as yours.
However, things are far, far more complex and desperate than your view of them.

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Reply #4 - Oct 13th, 2021 at 12:36pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:39am:
Little effect is more important than none at all. However, is must be comforting to reduce a complex situation down to a simplistic stance such as yours.


How about the fact that not only is Australia a carbon sink, the whole Southern Hemisphere is a carbon sink.

"Carbon dioxide concentrations show seasonal variations (annual cycles) that vary according to global location and altitude. Several processes contribute to carbon dioxide annual cycles: for example, uptake and release of carbon dioxide by terrestrial plants and the oceans, and the transport of carbon dioxide around the globe from source regions (the Northern Hemisphere is a net source of carbon dioxide, the Southern Hemisphere a net sink)."

https://www.csiro.au/en/research/natural-environment/atmosphere/Latest-greenhous...

But you actually have started looking at things, which is good. Now can you please show us where the Catastrophic AGW can be found?

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Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2021 at 1:27pm
 
Glasgow talkfest has net-zero credibility



The global push for “zero emissions by 2050” will fail. For a start, look at the track record. Since 1995, when the first “COP” UN climate change meeting took place, in Berlin, global carbon dioxide emissions have increased by more than 56 per cent to about 36 billion tonnes a year. A statistical genius couldn’t pick when the world started taking an interest in them from looking at a chart.

Despite ever larger, more frequent and earnest conferences and climate change “policies”, emissions show little sign of changing from their steady upward course, whatever profound sentiments emerge from this week’s climate jamboree.

If governments seriously believe they can get 36 billion tonnes down to near zero by 2050, they will have to take drastic and painful action soon, including the biggest emitters – China, the US and India.

Emissions whack-a-mole has been the reality as rich countries send their manufacturing to poor countries, which don’t care so much about their emissions, which at the end of the day, are the same everywhere. China now emits more than the US and EU combined every year.
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Reply #6 - Nov 3rd, 2021 at 2:33pm
 
It's worse than we thought -

All species have an environmental niche, and despite technological advances, humans are unlikely to be an exception. Here, we demonstrate that for millennia, human populations have resided in the same narrow part of the climatic envelope available on the globe, characterized by a major mode around ∼11 °C to 15 °C mean annual temperature (MAT). Supporting the fundamental nature of this temperature niche, current production of crops and livestock is largely limited to the same conditions, and the same optimum has been found for agricultural and nonagricultural economic output of countries through analyses of year-to-year variation. We show that in a business-as-usual climate change scenario, the geographical position of this temperature niche is projected to shift more over the coming 50 y than it has moved since 6000 BP. Populations will not simply track the shifting climate, as adaptation in situ may address some of the challenges, and many other factors affect decisions to migrate. Nevertheless, in the absence of migration, one third of the global population is projected to experience a MAT >29 °C currently found in only 0.8% of the Earth’s land surface, mostly concentrated in the Sahara. As the potentially most affected regions are among the poorest in the world, where adaptive capacity is low, enhancing human development in those areas should be a priority alongside climate mitigation.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/21/11350

So it seems "global" population is actually mostly European population. And  given Australia's harvest and, India's increasing harvests because of climate change, we are nevertheless all doomed to die due Climate Change where we currently enjoy warmer weather. I wonder if they have told the Singaporeans yet?

And Business-as-usual CO2? The thoroughly discredited RCP8.5 - now SSP8.5

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lee wrote on Nov 3rd, 2021 at 2:33pm:
It's worse than we thought -

All species have an environmental niche, and despite technological advances, humans are unlikely to be an exception. Here, we demonstrate that for millennia, human populations have resided in the same narrow part of the climatic envelope available on the globe, characterized by a major mode around ∼11 °C to 15 °C mean annual temperature (MAT). Supporting the fundamental nature of this temperature niche, current production of crops and livestock is largely limited to the same conditions, and the same optimum has been found for agricultural and nonagricultural economic output of countries through analyses of year-to-year variation. We show that in a business-as-usual climate change scenario, the geographical position of this temperature niche is projected to shift more over the coming 50 y than it has moved since 6000 BP. Populations will not simply track the shifting climate, as adaptation in situ may address some of the challenges, and many other factors affect decisions to migrate. Nevertheless, in the absence of migration, one third of the global population is projected to experience a MAT >29 °C currently found in only 0.8% of the Earth’s land surface, mostly concentrated in the Sahara. As the potentially most affected regions are among the poorest in the world, where adaptive capacity is low, enhancing human development in those areas should be a priority alongside climate mitigation.

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/21/11350

So it seems "global" population is actually mostly European population. And  given Australia's harvest and, India's increasing harvests because of climate change, we are nevertheless all doomed to die due Climate Change where we currently enjoy warmer weather. I wonder if they have told the Singaporeans yet?

And Business-as-usual CO2? The thoroughly discredited RCP8.5 - now SSP8.5



Are you mentally impaired Lee?
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Reply #8 - Nov 3rd, 2021 at 4:57pm
 
Poor petal. Can't debunk anything. You are a really poor man's John Smith. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2021 at 12:52pm
 
A two-megawatt windmill is made up of 260 tons of steel that required 300 tons or iron ore and 170 tons of coking coal, all mined, transported and produced by hydrocarbons

A windmill could spin until it falls apart (20-25 years) and never generate as much energy as was invested in building it.

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