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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #165 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:53am
 

LOL...

Trying to meaningfully debate COVID and its vaccinations with the
anti-vaxxers here is like discussing string theory with a garden snail.

(With apologies to garden snails everywhere.)      Wink

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Reply #166 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:34am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:53am:

LOL...

Trying to meaningfully debate COVID and its vaccinations with the
anti-vaxxers here is like discussing string theory with a garden snail.

(With apologies to garden snails everywhere.)      Wink



Morning Dopey I see you survived another night, oh well there is always tonight for that blood clot to kick in.

Anyway time for a biology lesson for you, seeing as you think you are the know all virus expert in Australia.

The following will explain a bit more in detail what a virus is, more importantly what it isn't and how the body deals with it. You may want to go out into your garden and find a slug to explain it to you as I know this is far beyond your comprehension.

What is a Virus?

"A virus is a pathogenic, parasitic organism that isn’t classified as being alive, since a cell is an essential to our definition of life. A virus has no cell membrane, no metabolism, no respiration and cannot replicate outside of a living cell. A virus is a creepy half-live, single strand or double strand of DNA or RNA or both, looking for a cell to invade. Once inside, it reprograms the cell with its DNA or RNA and multiplies on mass, bursting through the cell with a thousand or more new virus strands seeking new cells to invade. RNA viruses mutate more easily than DNA viruses. (SARS, bird flu, West Nile virus, swine flu, hepatitis, measles, polio, yellow fever, and Ebola are among the many RNA viruses).

If two viruses invade the same cell (a bird virus and a human virus, for instance) their DNA can combine to form a new virus, a potentially virulent one. The same is true if two animal viruses combine and jump species to humans.

Viruses have two life cycles: the lytic cycle and the lysogenic cycle.

Lytic Cycle
In the lytic cycle, the virus focuses on reproduction. It invades a cell, inserts its DNA and creates thousands of copies of itself, bursts through the cell membrane, killing the cell, and each new viral strand invades new cells replicating the process.

Lysogenic Cycle
In the lysogenic cycle, viruses remain dormant within its host cells. The virus may remain dormant for years. Herpes and chickenpox are good examples. (Chicken pox can cause shingles in later life when the dormant virus reactivates.)

How Does the Body Fight a Virus?
Our bodies fight off invading organisms, including viruses, all the time. Our first line of defense is the skin, mucous, and stomach acid. If we inhale a virus, mucous traps it and tries to expel it. If it is swallowed, stomach acid may kill it. If the virus gets past the first line of defense, the innate immune system comes into play. The phagocytes wage war and release interferon to protect surrounding cells. If they cannot destroy the invading force, the phagocytes call the lymphocytes into play.

Our lymphocytes, T cells and B cells, retain a memory of any previous infection that was serious enough to bring them into the battle. Antibodies were formed and the body knows how to fight any infection it recognizes. (This is how vaccinations work. The body has fought a similar infection). But viruses can mutate, sometimes so much that they body cannot recognize them as a similar infection they fought in the past. They can also be so fast acting, they can kill before the lymphocytes are brought into play.

Viral infections are a symptom of a weak immune system. Your immune system is wholly dependant on your gut health. A sick gut has an abundance of fungi and other pathogens, and a healthy gut has a wide variety of beneficial bacteria. A healthy nutrient dense diet, a healthy lifestyle, and a body void of as many toxins as possible is the first and foremost defense.

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Reply #167 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:48am
 
This isn't mine either its from the CSIRO. So if you think its BS the CSIRO is a government funded body, the same government that told you the vaccine is safe and effective and Ivermectin doesn't work.

As you can see Dopey, the virus is a cross between a parasite and a pathogen. Think about or better yet get the slug to explain it to you.

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Reply #168 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 11:24am
 
You are taking a long time to respond Dopey. Are you busy googling and fact checking CSIRO? You really are one dumb f*%$er. As long as you have been truthful you have been vaxxed and boosted I sleep soundly knowing one day very soon you will be a distant memory with only your BS ridden posts left on this forum for us to remember you by. You fell for the lie. What a dumb ass.
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Reply #169 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 6:28pm
 
Still silent Dopey. Here is part 2.

This is why you dont want the mRNA vaccine in yoiur body.

The Moderna vaccine is an mRNA vaccine. This means that it doesn't contain any parts of the virus, but uses a genetic code called RNA to teach your body to make the COVID-19 spike protein. Your body then recognises this spike protein as a threat and triggers an immune response.

Put the 2 together and work it out. I'm satisfied you have taken it and I feel completely reassured that eventually what you have taken will kill you. So please keep getting your booster shots to keep teaching your cells to replicate the virus. You f&%*ing dimwit.
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Reply #170 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 6:54pm
 
he's waiting for next weeks meeting to get confirmation Wink

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Reply #171 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 7:51pm
 
Hey Dopey. I just read your last lot of BS on another thread about people not posting credible evidence. You are a fine one to talk. Slowly but surely the evidence mounts up that the you have all been experimented on. You are nothing more than a stupid lab rat. If you cannot see the connection between the spike proteins from the AZ and the continual production of them by the mRNA vaccines and the danger this accumulation to the body given what WE KNOW WHY THE AZ WAS HALTED you are one stupid dumb arse idiot. I have to give you credit though Dopey for your continual belief that the government and its agencies have been 100% honest with the public. This same government that every single one of you have probably moaned about being lied to, stolen from, deceived by false wars, had your taxes wasted, the list goes on. This same government that sent me to fight a war in Iraq over the infamous weapons of mass destruction that never existed. They all knew and killed heaps of us for their own gain. And yet at the critical juncture of this belief you decide to let them inject you with this poo? You sir are the definition of the absolute complete idiot. Congratulations.

Part 3

The Astrazeneca Link to the toxic spike protein.

The AstraZeneca vaccine uses a harmless, weakened animal virus (called a viral vector) that contains the genetic code for the coronavirus spike protein. Once this enters the body, it tells your cells to make copies of the spike protein. After the AstraZeneca vaccine is injected into our arm, the vaccine adenovirus, holding the genetic code for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, attaches to and enters our own body’s cells. Once inside our cell, it travels to the nucleus to deliver the genetic code. In the modified vaccine adenovirus, the genes that a normal virus would use to replicate have been disabled. It can only make the spike protein. The genetic code for the COVID-19 spike protein is transformed into messenger RNA (mRNA). This mRNA leaves the nucleus and works with the cell’s protein-making machinery to assemble copies of the COVID-19 spike proteins.


Side effect worry grows for AstraZeneca vaccine
AstraZeneca's vaccine incorporates the spike gene from SARS-CoV-2 into another, nonpathogenic virus. Last month, many countries suspended its use following initial reports of the clotting issues in recipients, which have led to at least 15 deaths in Europe. Some researchers dismissed the cases as normal background levels of blood clots. And most countries resumed vaccinations after the European Medicines Agency (EMA) said the vaccine's benefits outweigh any risks, even though it couldn't rule out that the clotting symptoms were connected to the vaccine.
Spike Proteins of SARS-CoV-2 Induce Pathological Changes in Molecular Delivery and Metabolic Function in the Brain Endothelial Cells

5. Conclusions

This study has focused on the pathological roles of the spike proteins on the disruption of normal function in the brain ECs. We observed that the different types of the spike proteins (S1 and Trimer) can be internalized into the brain ECs and can mediate changes in the delivery of molecules. Additionally, these proteins could induce the functional defects in the mitochondria that may be linked to the function of the brain ECs. Accumulating evidence is suggesting that the SARS-CoV2 infection may induce subsequent neurological signs. Even though we do not have direct evidence that the observed damage to the brain ECs by the spike proteins can induce neurological signs in the brain, this study may provide important information to find the link between the spike protein-mediated brain vascular damage and the development of neurological signs that could be the topic of our future study.

Denmark, Norway, Austria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Luxembourg have halted some or all of their AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccinations over fears of blood clots, France24 reports. Previously, Austria had stopped using a single batch of the vaccine after a clotting issue turned up in one recipient.

The only difference between the mRNA vaccines and the AZ is contained in a viral vector. When the viral vector is encountered by the immune system the first response is to break down the protein layer surrounding the viral vector and expose this to the immune system. This exposes the body to an insurmountable number of spike proteins. THIS IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VACCINES. Blood clotting occurred with the AZ in a matter of hours. Laboratory studies have shown that the spike proteins can and do cause clotting.

When you get an mRNA vaccine your cells continually generate spikes. This explains the steady build up of spikes over time due to the mRNA vaccine as opposed to the immediate response from the dissolution of the AZ and why the mRNA vaccine side effects are delayed.

So go and get your next booster PLEASE and the one after that PLEASE and then the next one PLEASE. and just keep doing it PLEASE. You dumb as sh*t idiot.

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"The only gigantic lie we've been fed (and continue to be fed) by our governments is that Covid is mild and no more dangerous than the flu"
 
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Re: Discrimination with unvaccinated people
Reply #172 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:47pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:53am:

LOL...

Trying to meaningfully debate COVID and its vaccinations with the
anti-vaxxers here is like discussing string theory with a garden snail.

(With apologies to garden snails everywhere.)      Wink



The CDC admitted vaccines don't do anything to stop transmission of covid over 14 months ago.

There was no scientific justification for vaccine mandates or discriminating against people for being unvaccinated.

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BREAKING: NY Supreme Court orders reinstatement of fired unvaxxed staff, WITH backpay, says “Being vaccinated does not prevent an individual from contracting or transmitting Covid-19,” adding that the mandates were “about compliance”


https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=lSCD/VVp5ButOxtfdQ...

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1584940471562170369?cxt=HHwWgsDT2cS96_4r...




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Reply #173 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:55pm
 
I'm waiting for you to post your pathetic Reuters fact check BS too. I bet you are busily compiling links as that is all you are capable of doing.

What’s this?………….. 

Accusations of criminality by a Big Pharma from another??

But, but, but aren’t these companies our saviors and beyond reproach?

A beacon of ethical standards and transparency? 

Moderna suing Pfizer? No? Surely Pfizer is beyond reproach?

They aren't in this for the money. They want to save you.

Fact check away and continue to post your media fact check BS paid for by Pfizer and J&J. I remember when Reuters went full on the Weapons of Mass Destruction being a good reason for the US and it allies to invade Iraq and then drag us into Afghanistan. You probably wouldn't give a sh*t though as I see you as nothing but a traitorous pig and a coward. Who was a shareholder in Reuters at that stage? Lockheed Martin and Halliburton that's who. The very companies that made the weapons to kill millions of Iraqi and Afghan civilians and made billions from you and I. Australia dragged into another war by the US using lies and deception  by our congruent government. The very same government that wanted you vaccinated. All done using the so called "Fact Checkers". You are one dumb son of a bitch mate.
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Reply #174 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:00pm
 
reggie1963 wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 9:55pm:
I'm waiting for you to post your pathetic Reuters fact check BS too. 


Has Reuters fact checked this bullshit from Rachel Madcow or anyone else in this thread spreading what we now know is clear misinformation?

Video and Audio of Rachel telling lies about covid vaccine and nobody fact checks this.

https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1586801763692208128


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Reply #175 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:02pm
 
old geoff sounds like a dumbarse lawyer with brain cells slowly being eaten away by the vax Cheesy LOL
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Reply #176 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:04pm
 
You seem to be getting a bit over excited there, Reggie.

Why don't you have a Bex and a nice lie down? It might do you the world of good.

Same applies to Sir Nail (funny how both of you almost always seem to be here at the same time).

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Reply #177 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:14pm
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:04pm:
You seem to be getting a bit over excited there, Reggie.

Why don't you have a Bex and a nice lie down? It might do you the world of good.

Same applies to Sir Nail (funny how both of you almost always seem to be here at the same time).

Smiley


I'm sure you and Dopey and the Ass Fairy are all one in the same person. You certainly cum across as a receptacle. It fits. That's your best comeback shows how devoid of any intelligence you are. Weak as piss mate, weak as piss. Absolutely nothing meaningful to contribute as usual. Just the same BS that you repeat day after day after day. What a vacuous waste of oxygen you are.
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Reply #178 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 10:39pm
 
Hey Carl I got bad news for you mate.

The history of Pfizer & legal claims

25 years ago, Pfizer sent a team to Nigeria during a meningococcal meningitis outbreak. They conducted an “open label” (unblinded) clinical trial involving 200 children, half of whom were given Pfizer’s new antibiotic Trovan and half of whom received the gold standard treatment, ceftriaxone. Watchdogs noted that Pfizer used substantially lower doses of ceftriaxone to rig the trials in favor of Trovan. 11 Nigerian children died: 5 after receiving Pfizer’s product and 6 after receiving lower-than-normal doses of the older drug.

One 10-year-old girl suffering from meningitis was not taken off experimental Trovan and given standard, proven treatments by Pfizer –when it was clear that her condition was deteriorating.

Pfizer paid the largest fine for health care fraud in American history ($2.3 billion) in 2009 to resolve allegations that it illegally caused false claims to be submitted to the government and paid kickbacks to health care providers to induce them to prescribe their products (see below).

Nearly 3,000 people developed suicidal thoughts and severe psychological disorders after taking Pfizer’s smoking cessation drug, Chantix. Pfizer paid out nearly $300 million to settle those cases.

10,000 women won claims of nearly $1 billion after developing breast cancer linked to Pfizer’s Prempro hormone
replacement therapy.

"Pfizer pleaded guilty to misbranding the painkiller Bextra, withdrawn from the market in 2004, by promoting the drug for uses that were not approved by medical regulators.

They also settled civil allegations concerning improper payments to doctors who prescribed nine other pharmaceutical products, although it continues to deny these charges."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2009/sep/02/pfizer-drugs-us-criminal-fine

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-la...

2014 "Pfizer reached a $190 million settlement agreement over claims that it manipulated the drug market to increase prices on its epilepsy drug Neurontin, resolving claims that the drug maker promoted the medication for unapproved uses and engaged in allegedly frivolous lawsuits against generic manufacturers."

https://www.aboutlawsuits.com/neurontin-settlement-class-action-pfizer-63772/

2016 "Pfizer Inc PFE.N on Tuesday said it has reached a $486 million settlement of litigation accusing it of causing big losses for shareholders by concealing safety risks associated with its Celebrex and Bextra pain-relieving drugs."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-lawsuit-idUSKCN10D1D8

Lyrica, a drug manufactured by Pfizer, was initially developed to treat epilepsy. Since that time, it’s been prescribed off-label to treat pain and anxiety — often with disastrous results. In addition to suicidal thoughts, use of Lyrica has been associated with respiratory depression; slowed breathing can be dangerous on its own, and the chance of fatality only increases when the user is elderly, has a pre-existing lung condition, or uses Opioids in combination with Lyrica.

The US Department of Justice fined Pfizer $2.3 billion for breaking the law in how it promoted 4 of its drugs, including Lyrica, in 2009. At the time, the settlement was the largest health care fraud payout in history. To date, it’s the second largest.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/news/2021/09/pfizers-lyrica-causing-outcry/

The UK Supreme Court has thrown out an appeal by the drug company Pfizer over its blockbuster drug pregabalin (Lyrica).

https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4856

A recent study has linked the anti-seizure drug Lyrica with a tripled increased risk of birth defects when it is used early in pregnancy. About 6% of babies exposed to Lyrica had a heart defect, nervous system defect, or organ defect.

https://www.schmidtlaw.com/lyrica-lawsuit/

List of largest pharmaceutical settlements - includes Pfizer and others.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements

TRUST THE SCIENCE. I THINK NOT.
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Reply #179 - Oct 31st, 2022 at 11:18pm
 
And the most important question of all still goes unanswered:

Why do people like Sir Nail and Reggie seem to be so afraid of having their Covid vaccinations?

Is it just the Covid vaccinations or are they afraid of all vaccinations?

Some of us would really like to know.
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