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Reply #15 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 11:37am
 
Western neo-liberalism means economic deregulation and by proxy degeneration of tradition. Accelerated all over the west in the 50s-60's, led by the US, first trialed on the minority population (destruction of black family units) then applied to the rest of the population. It led to total decentralization of political power, rise of the big monopolies/corporate run oligarchy, formalization of political corruption. annihilation of social cohesion, popularized mass identity factionalism (eg. race, gender) and dysphoria, demoralization, and ultimately as we are seeing now, the fall of the west.

Some say this new progressive parasitic ideology was planted into US tertiary institutions by soviet spies engaged in a long con back during the upheavals of the Vietnam war. It may have actually succeeded decades later. At least two to three generations of students now forming the elite are decisively compromised degenerates.
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Reply #17 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 12:08pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 8:09am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 7:56am:
Because the West foolishly thought it could create a full Brotherhood of Man by offering to China the opportunity to prosper mightily via its leadership exploiting every facet of State control to earn for themselves unearned billions, and this would create a situation in which that leadership would see that their best interests lay in maintaining peace and prosperity and reliable trade.

The scorpion and the frog?


That allusion escaped me!  Not quick enough on it... thanks.

Even I have my minor imperfections... some of which are pretty big ones...
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Reply #18 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 12:14pm
 
athos wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 11:37am:
Western neo-liberalism means economic deregulation and by proxy degeneration of tradition. Accelerated all over the west in the 50s-60's, led by the US, first trialed on the minority population (destruction of black family units) then applied to the rest of the population. It led to total decentralization of political power, rise of the big monopolies/corporate run oligarchy, formalization of political corruption. annihilation of social cohesion, popularized mass identity factionalism (eg. race, gender) and dysphoria, demoralization, and ultimately as we are seeing now, the fall of the west.

Some say this new progressive parasitic ideology was planted into US tertiary institutions by soviet spies engaged in a long con back during the upheavals of the Vietnam war. It may have actually succeeded decades later. At least two to three generations of students now forming the elite are decisively compromised degenerates.
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You'll find most of us with any mind despise neo-liberalism and all it does and portends - thing is, we weren't planning to destroy the culture in which we live in order to save it from itself, and while I, for one oppose with might and main every chicanery of our modern governance, and even while that may make me an Enemy of The State in standing for the people first before state - this does not mean I am an enemy of my nation.

It's a fine point... I'm happy to be an Enemy of The State as long as it saves my nation and its people from that State.

Chinkophiles, on the other hand, want to bring it all down so they can feast among the ruins... pretty dumb if you ask me and incredibly arrogant and naive.  Like the rabid feminist talibans, once you wreck the whole joint, there is nothing in the ruins to feed off...
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Reply #19 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 12:18pm
 
athos wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 11:37am:
At least two to three generations of students now forming the elite are decisively compromised degenerates.
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"Der Untermensch", edited by Himmler 1942 after the start of Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union.

"Just as the night rises against the day, the light and dark are in eternal conflict. So too, is the subhuman the greatest enemy of the dominant species on earth, mankind. The subhuman is a biological creature, crafted by nature, which has hands, legs, eyes and mouth, even the semblance of a brain. Nevertheless, this terrible creature is only a partial human being.

Although it has features similar to a human, the subhuman is lower on the spiritual and psychological scale than any animal. Inside of this creature lies wild and unrestrained passions: an incessant need to destroy, filled with the most primitive desires, chaos and coldhearted villainy.

A subhuman and nothing more!  Not all of those who appear human are in fact so. Woe to him who forgets it!"
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Reply #20 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 4:16pm
 
Decadence has penetrated into all segments of western society. This is worse than the collapse of the Roman Empire.
Believe or not but this is the President of the United states, and the media just let's him get away with it. NO ACCOUNTABILITY AT ALL.
The only time Biden comes alive is when he spots young girls. Other times, he doesn't know where he is or what he's doing there.
It's incredible how parents allow this to continue happening to they're kids right in front of them
If anyone approached him they would be shot on the spot. It’s the power! That’s the problem.
Imagine what he does when he's not in public.
It's very sickening and paifull to watch.

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Reply #21 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 4:20pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 8:09am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 7:56am:
Because the West foolishly thought it could create a full Brotherhood of Man by offering to China the opportunity to prosper mightily via its leadership exploiting every facet of State control to earn for themselves unearned billions, and this would create a situation in which that leadership would see that their best interests lay in maintaining peace and prosperity and reliable trade.

The scorpion and the frog?


That allusion escaped me!  Not quick enough on it... thanks.

Even I have my minor imperfections... some of which are pretty big ones...

Although people usually think it's only about scorpion-nature... It's frog-nature to dive.
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Reply #22 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 5:18pm
 
athos wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 4:16pm:
Decadence has penetrated into all segments of western society. This is worse than the collapse of the Roman Empire.
Believe or not but this is the President of the United states, and the media just let's him get away with it. NO ACCOUNTABILITY AT ALL.
The only time Biden comes alive is when he spots young girls. Other times, he doesn't know where he is or what he's doing there.
It's incredible how parents allow this to continue happening to they're kids right in front of them
If anyone approached him they would be shot on the spot. It’s the power! That’s the problem.
Imagine what he does when he's not in public.
It's very sickening and paifull to watch.

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There is no correlation, let alone causation, between the moth-eaten sock puppet's creepiness and Thug-in-Chief For Life Xi's Chinese Communist regime. They are creepy and thuggish independently from the other.



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Reply #23 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 6:00pm
 
athos wrote on Aug 15th, 2021 at 11:51am:
A roundtable of western scholars couldn't even hold a candle next to Eric Li, and english is his 2nd language.

Eric Li is absolutely awesome! He  successfully exposes the hypocrisy of these western clowns.
Those so-called western scholars are ridiculous. On one hand they don’t want China to touch anything in HK, on the other hand they want China to take responsibilities in Afghanistan! OMG.


Well, if you bothered to take note of China's problems, they have a large population that is going backwards. And they do not grow enough food to feed themselves. They are going to be in a situation where hundred of millions of Chinese people will be hungrier than they are now. And their ageing population will just burden them to a point where they need to find another disease to release on the world.
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Reply #24 - Aug 16th, 2021 at 11:32pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 4:20pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 12:08pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 8:09am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 7:56am:
Because the West foolishly thought it could create a full Brotherhood of Man by offering to China the opportunity to prosper mightily via its leadership exploiting every facet of State control to earn for themselves unearned billions, and this would create a situation in which that leadership would see that their best interests lay in maintaining peace and prosperity and reliable trade.

The scorpion and the frog?


That allusion escaped me!  Not quick enough on it... thanks.

Even I have my minor imperfections... some of which are pretty big ones...

Although people usually think it's only about scorpion-nature... It's frog-nature to dive.


Though usually not for a deep six.....

.. full fathom five, my father lies,
his feet are of coral made,
these are pearls that were his eyes....


Traveling down from Port Mack t'other day, and saw a sign that said "Jericho Road" - instantly thought that was a great title for a book about the way the road we are being driven down unwillingly by governments of sellouts will inevitably lead to them walls come-a tumblin' down...

Jericho Road - under tons of masonry no-one can hear you scream.....

"Say - what the hell was that noise?"

"I think it was a civilisation collapsing...."


There is also a historical precedent - post WW II Japan and Germany established a solid industrial base, with aid - but principally because their old and worn-out and out-moded technology was bombed flat and then re-built.

I've said before that given the proper impetus - which looks like it is looming on the horizon - the West will re-tool with even more modern technology and will again establish itself as the pre-eminent industrial group on Earth.  Dominance in industrial strength gives a solid base from which all else flows - playing at being a 'service provider' - money mover and such (LMAO) - can never compensate for carrying on those activities WITH a strong industrial base.

That strong industrial base also gives physical national security in the event of world troubles - though the 'reasoning' of the governments of the West today may be that the possibility of nuclear strike renders such strength irrelevant.

I, of course, beg to differ - none but a total fool would strike at a strong industrial based nation.

Also this is partly behind my development of the GAIA concept - of industry based on top of the resources over West, and with new and totally modern technology right through the city that would develop.  Some are coming on board with this idea with the mooting of a trans-continental railway line to carry Galilee Basin coal to the Pilbara... they're catching on.

Since anywhere can be struck in an attack it does not matter where you place it..... so right on top of the resources is as good as anywhere else... and again - only a fool would actually launch a nuclear attack.
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Reply #25 - Aug 17th, 2021 at 6:03am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 16th, 2021 at 11:32pm:
Traveling down from Port Mack t'other day, and saw a sign that said "Jericho Road" - instantly thought that was a great title for a book about the way the road we are being driven down unwillingly by governments of sellouts will inevitably lead to them walls come-a tumblin' down...

Jericho Road - under tons of masonry no-one can hear you scream.....

Yep, that's a great title! You're onto something.
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Reply #26 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 11:03am
 
China under fire
A mere ten years ago, African countries were scrambling to get a piece of Beijing’s largesse: in a couple of decades, China had gone from being a marginal actor in the continent’s economic life to its biggest trading partner. With the Belt and Road Initiative and formerly the “Go Out” strategy, more than 10,000 Chinese companies – 90% privately owned – are now operating in Africa, and large settlements of Chinese entrepreneurs in places such as Nigeria and Senegal have followed them.

But that position is increasingly tenuous: Beijing is facing accusations of neocolonialism and of trapping countries in crippling debt. At the same time, Tokyo’s new initiatives and Brussels’ as well as Moscow’s renewed proposals for Africa have dealt a blow to China’s ambitions. The massive influx of funds and workers from China has led to increased anti-Chinese sentiment, and Beijing has yet to find ways to defend itself against accusations that its people exist in parallel societies in the host countries, independent of indigenous values and norms.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/how-africa-breaking-china-s-neo-colonial-shackles


They do that everywhere, set up parallel societies separate from the host society and loyal to China.

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Reply #27 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 1:15pm
 
The Chinese performance speaks more than million words of western ideology.


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