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Reply #15 - Aug 3rd, 2021 at 12:27pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 3rd, 2021 at 12:08pm:
So we have "renewables", an intermittent energy source; no fit for purpose battery backup.

They seem to have the cart before the horse. Or before the wheel. Wink

Speaking of wheels do you know anything about the reliability of the first automobiles?
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Reply #16 - Aug 3rd, 2021 at 1:18pm
 
It appears that the battery buildings are a bad design and fire was shooting out of ventilation openings which demonstrates that they had no means of closing air inlets and outlets with fire dampers.

Tesla has also been exposed for using insulation materials on wiring in Tesla cars that are not fire-resistant.

It appears that Tesla are far from expert in designing fire-safe battery systems.

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Reply #17 - Aug 3rd, 2021 at 5:17pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Aug 3rd, 2021 at 10:24am:
This clean, green, renewable energy source has burned for 4 days.....what sort of carbon footprint has the clouds of toxic gas and the lethal sludge left behind generated?  Roll Eyes

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/02/tesla-big-battery-fire-in...


It took 150 firefighters and more than 30 firetrucks to bring it under control.

https://news.cfa.vic.gov.au/firefighters-bring-large-battery-fire-near-geelong-u...

If i was going to buy a Tesla battery i would locate it away from anything i don't want burnt down somehwere easy for fire crews to access.
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Re: Tesla Battery fire
Reply #18 - Aug 3rd, 2021 at 6:58pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Aug 3rd, 2021 at 12:27pm:
lee wrote on Aug 3rd, 2021 at 12:08pm:
So we have "renewables", an intermittent energy source; no fit for purpose battery backup.

They seem to have the cart before the horse. Or before the wheel. Wink

Speaking of wheels do you know anything about the reliability of the first automobiles?


Yes. They were a new technology. Which ones were you interested in? Invented  the late 1800's. I know the model T had a wooden coil box. That used to get arc runs down it. It was simply to fix - cut out the burn marks with a knife. Gravity fed fuel - reverse up hill.

As opposed to wind power, since 1st century AD, used for grinding corn etc; that was replaced by electricity.

Solar since 7BC, solar cooking since 1767 etc.

Batteries since 1748. Of course lithium battery pioneering work only since 1912.

So all in all Automobiles are the new kid on the block. Wink
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Reply #19 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 2:41pm
 
Speaking of BIG batteries ... bloody French again!!!

Regulator sues Tesla Big Battery in Federal Court over power grid promises


Australia’s Tesla Big Battery, one of the world’s biggest lithium-ion batteries, is facing legal action amid allegations it failed to deliver on its promise of providing services essential to maintaining the stability of the power grid.

The Australian Energy Regulator has filed Federal Court proceedings against the Tesla Big Battery, known as the Hornsdale Power Reserve, which is
owned and operated by French renewable energy giant Neoen.


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Tesla’s ‘big battery’ in Hornsdale, South Australia.CREDIT: NEOEN

It is alleged the Hornsdale Power Reserve failed to provide “frequency control ancillary services” – services used to maintain the safe operations of the grid following power disruptions – despite making offers and receiving payment from the market operator to be on stand-by to provide them.

Tech billionaire Elon Musk’s Tesla built the huge battery in a remote area of South Australia in 2017. Paired with the adjacent Hornsdale wind farm, the 150-megawatt battery with 193 megawatt-hours of storage has helped reduce intermittency and manage increased demand during periods when the grid is under the most strain.

The Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) informed the regulator of Hornsdale’s alleged conduct after a power system disruption at Queensland’s Kogan Creek power station in October 2019.

Hornsdale’s failure to provide the services as promised “undermined AEMO’s ability to maintain frequency” and put the power system’s security and stability at risk, the regulator said.

“It is vital that generators do what they say they can do if we’re going to keep the lights on through the market’s transition to variable renewable generation,” Australian Energy Regulator chair Clare Savage said.

“AEMO relies on accurate information and compliance with offers and dispatch instructions to ensure it can effectively stabilise frequency deviations.“

The regulator said it was seeking penalties, declarations and costs.

Neoen Australia managing director Louis de Sambucy said Hornsdale had repeatedly delivered on the high expectations of its performance and market impact since beginning operations in 2017, “proving itself to be a critical component of the South Australian electricity network”.

“Whilst we are disappointed by the AER decision, we will continue to maintain our collaborative relationship with them,” he said.

In its first two years of operation, the construction of the Tesla Big Battery has saved consumers more than $150 million, according to Neoen.

A report by Aurecon in 2019 found the big battery had reduced the cost of frequency control ancillary services in the National Electricity Market by about $116 million in 2019.

Tesla’s Hornsdale project kickstarted a wave of Australian big batteries – technology considered key to supporting the greater uptake of renewables by overcoming the problem of intermittency when it is not sunny or windy.

Big batteries capture and store excess power generated during times when conditions for renewable energy are most favourable, and then release it when it’s needed during peak-usage periods such as during heatwaves.

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/regulator-sues-tesla-big-battery-in...
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