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Tesla Battery fire
Jul 31^st, 2021 at 11:31am

A toxic blaze at the site of Australia's largest Tesla battery project is set to burn throughout the night.

The fire broke out during testing of a Tesla megapack at the Victorian Big Battery site near Geelong.

A 13-tonne lithium battery was engulfed in flames, which then spread to an adjacent battery bank.

More than 150 people from Fire Rescue Victoria and the Country Fire Authority responded to the blaze, which has been contained and will be closely monitored until it burns itself out.

"If we try and cool them down it just prolongs the process," the CFA's Assistant Chief Fire Officer Ian Beswicke said.

"But we could be here anywhere from 8 to 24 hours while we wait for it to burn down."

The Tesla battery is expected to become the largest battery in the southern hemisphere as part of a Victorian Government push to transition to renewable energy.

Ambulance Victoria members are also on site monitoring the health of firefighters.

A toxic smoke warning has been issued near Geelong.

Residents have been warned to close windows, close fireplace flues and bring their pets inside in the Batesford, Bell Post Hill, Lovely Banks and Moorabool areas.

No-one was injured and the site has been evacuated.

Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) said the battery had been isolated and disconnected from the main electricity grid and “there are no implications” for supply.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-30/tesla-battery-fire-moorabool-geelong/1003...

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6169 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #1 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 12:52pm And here we have the reason that batteries are not a good idea on such a large scale....where are the environazis now?
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #2 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm Belgarion wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 12:52pm: And here we have the reason that batteries are not a good idea on such a large scale....where are the environazis now? Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve.
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Re: Tesla Battery fire
Reply #3 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:24pm

Belgarion wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 12:52pm:

And here we have the reason that batteries are not a good idea on such a large scale....where are the environazis now?

Using that logic, here is a reason why coal generators are not a good idea large scale ...

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/26/coal-fired-power-plant-th...

caused a blackout across almost half the state ... how much of SA lost it's power supply due to the battery fire?

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Reply #4 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 12:52pm:

And here we have the reason that batteries are not a good idea on such a large scale....where are the environazis now?

Using that logic, here is a reason why coal generators are not a good idea large scale ...

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/26/coal-fired-power-plant-th...

caused a blackout across almost half the state ... how much of SA lost it's power supply due to the battery fire?

This was only a test run.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:04pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 12:52pm:

And here we have the reason that batteries are not a good idea on such a large scale....where are the environazis now?

Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve.

Your faith in so-called 'renewables' is disturbing.....Nuclear is the only viable option.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #6 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:49pm Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm: Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve. So are you saying that current battery technology is not fit for purpose?
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Ayn Marx Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2937 South of Australia Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #7 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:58pm lee wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:49pm: Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm: Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve. So are you saying that current battery technology is not fit for purpose? Isn’t that obvious? My central point however was simply that technology advances and evolves.
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Reply #8 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 3:00pm

Belgarion wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:04pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 12:52pm:

And here we have the reason that batteries are not a good idea on such a large scale....where are the environazis now?

Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve.

Your faith in so-called 'renewables' is disturbing.....Nuclear is the only viable option.

Then why are so many nations dumping it? It’s not because they’re becomming fashionalbly green.

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Reply #9 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 3:26pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 3:00pm:

Then why are so many nations dumping it? It’s not because they’re becomming fashionalbly green.

Actually it is. Australian Greens, Germany Greens,

Germany's Energiewende is in disarray. It has reopened coal plant.

"Despite Climate Concerns, Germany Bulldozes Land To Expand Coal Mines"

"Ten years ago, Germany promised to phase out nuclear power. And Chancellor Angela Merkel got the nickname the climate chancellor. But Germany is the largest miner of lignite coal, one of the dirtiest and cheapest fossil fuels. It's responsible for a fifth of Germany's carbon emissions. And as NPR's Rob Schmitz found out, old villages are still being bulldozed to make way for expanding coal mines."

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/29/1011201118/despite-climate-concerns-germany-bulld...

"Coal plants and nuclear reactors shut down while energy demand expected to rise after Covid restrictions"

"Great Britain faces its greatest risk of blackouts for six years this winter as old coal plants and nuclear reactors shut down and energy demand rises as the economy emerges from Covid-19 restrictions."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jul/22/great-britain-faces-risk-of-win...

People aren't willing to spend when there is very heavy liability of environmental and greens opposition.

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Reply #10 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 3:41pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:58pm:

lee wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm:

Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve.

So are you saying that current battery technology is not fit for purpose?

Isn’t that obvious? My central point however was simply that technology advances and evolves.

So we have inadequate batteries to back up Weather Dependent Renewables. And something in the future might be better than the inadequate batteries. That doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement of renewables.

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Reply #11 - Jul 31^st, 2021 at 5:02pm

lee wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 3:41pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:58pm:

lee wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 2:49pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 31^st, 2021 at 1:21pm:

Your luddite presumption is battery technology will not evolve.

So are you saying that current battery technology is not fit for purpose?

Isn’t that obvious? My central point however was simply that technology advances and evolves.

So we have inadequate batteries to back up Weather Dependent Renewables. And something in the future might be better than the inadequate batteries. That doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement of renewables.

We must remember that 'renewables' is a marketing term, not a scientific or engineering one.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6169 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #12 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 10:24am This clean, green, renewable energy source has burned for 4 days.....what sort of carbon footprint has the clouds of toxic gas and the lethal sludge left behind generated? https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/02/tesla-big-battery-fire-in...
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #13 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 10:32am Same thing happened in China when the regime stole the technology, to make Tesla ripoffs... Many of the ripoff cars literally burst into flames while being driven on the road.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21516 Gender:	Re: Tesla Battery fire Reply #14 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 12:08pm So we have "renewables", an intermittent energy source; no fit for purpose battery backup. They seem to have the cart before the horse. Or before the wheel.
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