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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #60 - Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:51pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:20pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:23pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 7:21pm:

Since you do not choose your parents you cannot claim RACIAL pride.

Western civilisation, built on Christians tenets of equality in the image of God, is universalist. Everyone can participate in it and contribute to it. Western civilisation is uniquely non-racist, non-sexist.
It's uniquely about truth, character and constant self-examination. In a word, it's the most humain civilisation.

Look at who attacks it and why to see the truth of the above characterisation.

Quite so. Built on Greek tenants, Romans, Persians, Jews. A bit of the Norse, the Normans, Saxons, you name it. The Arabs and Chows have contributed, Johnny Turk, the Curries. The Silk Road, the Spice Isle, the bridges in between. The songs and stories on the way. Western civilisation is universal. One in, all in.

Exactly. They are all particularists, nationalists, tribal. Nevertheless they all point to a universalism which then unfolds in Christian civilisation.

Christianity is a universal civilisation even if you are not a Christian yourself. It is a universally defining phenomenon like no other precisely because it is not particularist, nationalist, tribal, male or female, white or black, or any other segmentation.

And that's just the empirical truth of it, even before you confess any faith.

Oh, I see. You meant Jesus all along, eh?

Scrap all that, dear boy. You meant Western sectarianism.

The Crusades, the Holy Wars, the Inquisition.

We thought you had a moment there. Silly old us, no?

You are noy SAYING anything coherent. Again. This is not a a Rorschach test of free association, you are not at your weekly appointment at the psych clinic.
Breathe, focus, gather your thoughts, if any. Formulate any coherent idea that results (if any). THEN utter.

Try.

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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #61 - Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 11:01pm

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:20pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:23pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 7:21pm:

Since you do not choose your parents you cannot claim RACIAL pride.

Western civilisation, built on Christians tenets of equality in the image of God, is universalist. Everyone can participate in it and contribute to it. Western civilisation is uniquely non-racist, non-sexist.
It's uniquely about truth, character and constant self-examination. In a word, it's the most humain civilisation.

Look at who attacks it and why to see the truth of the above characterisation.

Quite so. Built on Greek tenants, Romans, Persians, Jews. A bit of the Norse, the Normans, Saxons, you name it. The Arabs and Chows have contributed, Johnny Turk, the Curries. The Silk Road, the Spice Isle, the bridges in between. The songs and stories on the way. Western civilisation is universal. One in, all in.

Exactly. They are all particularists, nationalists, tribal. Nevertheless they all point to a universalism which then unfolds in Christian civilisation.

Christianity is a universal civilisation even if you are not a Christian yourself. It is a universally defining phenomenon like no other precisely because it is not particularist, nationalist, tribal, male or female, white or black, or any other segmentation.

And that's just the empirical truth of it, even before you confess any faith.

Oh, I see. You meant Jesus all along, eh?

Scrap all that, dear boy. You meant Western sectarianism.

The Crusades, the Holy Wars, the Inquisition.

We thought you had a moment there. Silly old us, no?

You are noy SAYING anything coherent. Again. This is not a a Rorschach test of free association, you are not at your weekly appointment at the psych clinic.
Breathe, focus, gather your thoughts, if any. Formulate any coherent idea that results (if any). THEN utter.

Try.

Praise the Lord.

Coherent enough, dear boy?

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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #62 - Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 11:19pm

Poor Karnie's never been the same since Laughing Boy bit the dust after pulling a gun on the wrong person... wasn't me - I nailed the little flicker the first time, then asked for his return after doing his penance.... and he sailed straight back in like the infantile minded low life he is and started all over again.

Someone got him..... sadly - it wasn't me this time.... someone kicked him out a window and took his hollow leg for a drinking vessel and trophy.

mothra? You? At least the joint doesn't echo to the endless tirades of a raving lunatic.... well.. not too often anyway... though there is a Smith and a few others still here desperately trying to get attention.

White! The New Black! It's cool to be a Niqqer these days and gives the kiddies an outlet for their teenage rebellion... bit of the old bad boy/girl and later on they wake up .... usually too late.

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Reply #63 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:47am

[quote author=Agatha link=1625118375/52#52 date=1625217661]Since you do not choose your parents you cannot claim RACIAL pride.

Western civilisation, built on Christians tenets of equality in the image of God, is universalist. Everyone can participate in it and contribute to it. Western civilisation is uniquely non-racist, non-sexist.
It's uniquely about truth, character and constant self-examination. In a word, it's the most humain civilisation.

Look at who attacks it and why to see the truth of the above characterisation.

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Bahahahahahaha!

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Reply #64 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:48am

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:23pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 7:21pm:

Since you do not choose your parents you cannot claim RACIAL pride.

Western civilisation, built on Christians tenets of equality in the image of God, is universalist. Everyone can participate in it and contribute to it. Western civilisation is uniquely non-racist, non-sexist.
It's uniquely about truth, character and constant self-examination. In a word, it's the most humain civilisation.

Look at who attacks it and why to see the truth of the above characterisation.

Quite so. Built on Greek tenants, Romans, Persians, Jews. A bit of the Norse, the Normans, Saxons, you name it. The Arabs and Chows have contributed, Johnny Turk, the Curries. The Silk Road, the Spice Isle, the bridges in between. The songs and stories on the way. Western civilisation is universal. One in, all in.

Exactly. They are all particularists, nationalists, tribal. Nevertheless they all point to a universalism which then unfolds in Christian civilisation.

Christianity is a universal civilisation even if you are not a Christian yourself. It is a universally defining phenomenon like no other precisely because it is not particularist, nationalist, tribal, male or female, white or black, or any other segmentation.

And that's just the empirical truth of it, even before you confess any faith.

How on earth did you get that from what he said?

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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #65 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:51am

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:48am:

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 10:43pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 10:31pm:

Black pride - good.
Gay pride - good.
Trans pride - good.
Indigenous pride - good.
Disabled pride - good.
Female pride - good.
Fat pride - good.
Multicultural pride - good.

There is only one pride that is bad.

Valkie didn't speak of pride, he spoke of superiority.

Difference?

Pride is about distinction, as is a sense of goodness or excellence (superior to being average or indistinguishable).

Goodnees, that's a disclosing statement.

Anyway, you're quite wrong. One can be prideful of a poor outcome even, if that outcome either truly reflects the generators spirit or intent; or if rewarding work was undertaken in the pursuit.

To expand on your rather childish theory however, none of the groups you mention insist in any way that they hold superiority over anyone else. They are simply representatives of demographics that suffer tremendously from long-held negative public opinion, stereotyping and actual diminished status, they are reclaiming positive meaning.

What are whites needing to reclaim? And from who? (cue the "but everyone is sooooo mean to us" ramblings).

The old participation trophy theory Grin

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Sure, on a thread where a forum member declares themselves a white supremacist, attack me.

First objection, Gonads?

In any event, have you ever taken pride in anything that you understand wasn't the pinnacle of excellence? If not, i pity you. Maybe that's why you're so cantankerous,

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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #66 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 8:42am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 7:17pm:

why on earth do we need "native title'.

do we have "blonde ' title or "brunette' title.

people with blonde hair or brown hair or green eyes of brown skin can go to a real estate agent and purchase a property and then they have some land.

why on earth would you have seperate legislation based on skin colour/
unless you paid a lot of attention to those things,
in which case you are a racist and should stop doing that

Its totally racist, thats what it is.

Giving rights beyond and above the people who have worked and slaved and paid taxes so this particular cultural group can sit on their arses and do nothing but insult white man.

We should abandon native title or at least only give it in limitation to totally unaltered land, away from cities, and ONLY to full blood aborigines.

Upon recieving said land, they must live on it in the way of their culture.
No more hand outs.

Thats the only fair way.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #67 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 10:41am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 4:35pm:

Some white people want to be seen as non-white. But, lots of non-white people want to live with white people.

Take the United States, for example. A lot of white people over there hate their own race because non-white people are promoted as being oppressed by white people. That is why white Americans like to identify as non-white people and appropriate non-white mannerisms and styles of speech.

What a lot of drivel.

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Reply #68 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 10:52am

mothra wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:48am:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:23pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 7:21pm:

Since you do not choose your parents you cannot claim RACIAL pride.

Western civilisation, built on Christians tenets of equality in the image of God, is universalist. Everyone can participate in it and contribute to it. Western civilisation is uniquely non-racist, non-sexist.
It's uniquely about truth, character and constant self-examination. In a word, it's the most humain civilisation.

Look at who attacks it and why to see the truth of the above characterisation.

Quite so. Built on Greek tenants, Romans, Persians, Jews. A bit of the Norse, the Normans, Saxons, you name it. The Arabs and Chows have contributed, Johnny Turk, the Curries. The Silk Road, the Spice Isle, the bridges in between. The songs and stories on the way. Western civilisation is universal. One in, all in.

Exactly. They are all particularists, nationalists, tribal. Nevertheless they all point to a universalism which then unfolds in Christian civilisation.

Christianity is a universal civilisation even if you are not a Christian yourself. It is a universally defining phenomenon like no other precisely because it is not particularist, nationalist, tribal, male or female, white or black, or any other segmentation.

And that's just the empirical truth of it, even before you confess any faith.

How on earth did you get that from what he said?

Forgive him, Mother, he was watching Reverend Arsefelsch's Lutheran Hour of Power and got carried away.

Blessed are the meek, no?

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Reply #69 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 10:57am

mothra wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:51am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:48am:

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 10:43pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 10:31pm:

Black pride - good.
Gay pride - good.
Trans pride - good.
Indigenous pride - good.
Disabled pride - good.
Female pride - good.
Fat pride - good.
Multicultural pride - good.

There is only one pride that is bad.

Valkie didn't speak of pride, he spoke of superiority.

Difference?

Pride is about distinction, as is a sense of goodness or excellence (superior to being average or indistinguishable).

Goodnees, that's a disclosing statement.

Anyway, you're quite wrong. One can be prideful of a poor outcome even, if that outcome either truly reflects the generators spirit or intent; or if rewarding work was undertaken in the pursuit.

To expand on your rather childish theory however, none of the groups you mention insist in any way that they hold superiority over anyone else. They are simply representatives of demographics that suffer tremendously from long-held negative public opinion, stereotyping and actual diminished status, they are reclaiming positive meaning.

What are whites needing to reclaim? And from who? (cue the "but everyone is sooooo mean to us" ramblings).

The old participation trophy theory Grin

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Sure, on a thread where a forum member declares themselves a white supremacist, attack me.

First objection, Gonads?

In any event, have you ever taken pride in anything that you understand wasn't the pinnacle of excellence? If not, i pity you. Maybe that's why you're so cantankerous,

You call that an attack?

Typical of your hysterical responses to any criticism you don't like.

And what someone else appears to be on this thread is irrelevant.

Talking about things as being "pinnacles of excellence" or "centres of excellence" etc is such trendy glib management style BS.

I've never been one to skite & don't readily accept praise for doing what's expected of me.

I simply try to do a job to the best of my ability.

And participation trophy theory irks me no end.

No one deserves reward for just being there.

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Re: People dont want to be white
Reply #70 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 11:08am

mothra wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:48am:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 10:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:23pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 7:21pm:

Since you do not choose your parents you cannot claim RACIAL pride.

Western civilisation, built on Christians tenets of equality in the image of God, is universalist. Everyone can participate in it and contribute to it. Western civilisation is uniquely non-racist, non-sexist.
It's uniquely about truth, character and constant self-examination. In a word, it's the most humain civilisation.

Look at who attacks it and why to see the truth of the above characterisation.

Quite so. Built on Greek tenants, Romans, Persians, Jews. A bit of the Norse, the Normans, Saxons, you name it. The Arabs and Chows have contributed, Johnny Turk, the Curries. The Silk Road, the Spice Isle, the bridges in between. The songs and stories on the way. Western civilisation is universal. One in, all in.

Exactly. They are all particularists, nationalists, tribal. Nevertheless they all point to a universalism which then unfolds in Christian civilisation.

Christianity is a universal civilisation even if you are not a Christian yourself. It is a universally defining phenomenon like no other precisely because it is not particularist, nationalist, tribal, male or female, white or black, or any other segmentation.

And that's just the empirical truth of it, even before you confess any faith.

How on earth did you get that from what he said?

It is self-evident, if you think about it.

V. S. Naipaul:

Our Universal Civilization
Sir V.S. Naipaul
On October 30, 1990, V. S. Naipaul, considered by many to be the greatest living English-language novelist at that time, delivered the fourth annual Walter B. Wriston lecture in Public Policy, sponsored by the Manhattan Institute. Naipaul took as his subject the “universal civilization” to which the Western values of tolerance, individualism, equality, and personal liberty have given birth. He described the personal and philosophical turmoil of those who find themselves torn between their native civilizations and the values of universal civilization. We are pleased to present his remarks here in full.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/our-universal-civilization-12753.html

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Reply #73 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 12:23pm

mothra wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 4:51am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2021 at 8:48am:

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 11:11pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 11:02pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 10:43pm:

Bertie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2021 at 10:31pm:

Black pride - good.
Gay pride - good.
Trans pride - good.
Indigenous pride - good.
Disabled pride - good.
Female pride - good.
Fat pride - good.
Multicultural pride - good.

There is only one pride that is bad.

Valkie didn't speak of pride, he spoke of superiority.

Difference?

Pride is about distinction, as is a sense of goodness or excellence (superior to being average or indistinguishable).

Goodnees, that's a disclosing statement.

Anyway, you're quite wrong. One can be prideful of a poor outcome even, if that outcome either truly reflects the generators spirit or intent; or if rewarding work was undertaken in the pursuit.

To expand on your rather childish theory however, none of the groups you mention insist in any way that they hold superiority over anyone else. They are simply representatives of demographics that suffer tremendously from long-held negative public opinion, stereotyping and actual diminished status, they are reclaiming positive meaning.

What are whites needing to reclaim? And from who? (cue the "but everyone is sooooo mean to us" ramblings).

The old participation trophy theory Grin

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Sure, on a thread where a forum member declares themselves a white supremacist, attack me.

First objection, Gonads?

In any event, have you ever taken pride in anything that you understand wasn't the pinnacle of excellence? If not, i pity you. Maybe that's why you're so cantankerous,

i wish to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land .

mothra

why have you, NOT ONCE, acknowledged the traditional owners of the land before going on a rant.

why are you a white supremicist.

TRY HARDER Angry

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77315 Gender:	Re: People dont want to be white Reply #74 - Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 1:52pm aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2021 at 12:23pm: i wish to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land . Freediver? Why? You think he doesn't know it's his forum?
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