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Reply #75 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 9:18pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

you arent going to get 300,000 km out of that car.

they're not trying to get 300 000ks with that car.

I doubt you'll find many cars on the road with that much mileage that aren't ready for the scrap heap, except for maybe some diesel 4WD's

well, i would consider my car a rolling pile of steaming dog turd if i didnt get 300,000 km out of it.

i'd consider it just broken in at that figure

If you can pay half the price for a car that gives you half the kilometers, most people will choose the cheaper option.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21856 Gordon Gender:	Re: Price of used carrs Reply #76 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 9:29pm OK so Mitsu has 5 years standard warranty and 5 if you service with them. Nothing on their website about transferability, could be a fine print thing. It's possible tho because you get the extra 5 years on a program called Diamond advantage.
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Reply #77 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 5:35am

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 9:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

you arent going to get 300,000 km out of that car.

they're not trying to get 300 000ks with that car.

I doubt you'll find many cars on the road with that much mileage that aren't ready for the scrap heap, except for maybe some diesel 4WD's

well, i would consider my car a rolling pile of steaming dog turd if i didnt get 300,000 km out of it.

i'd consider it just broken in at that figure

If you can pay half the price for a car that gives you half the kilometers, most people will choose the cheaper option.

well

1 thats terrible for the environment
2 it means people are going to be facing inconvenient breakdowns and hassles,
who wants the starter motor to die the day you are driving your kid to a uni exam or 1/2 way thru your grey nomad caravan tour

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Reply #78 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 5:54pm

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it means people are going to be facing inconvenient breakdowns and hassles,

Not necessarily. If the failure is more predictable, you don't go through the usual process at the end of life. Taken to the extreme, imagine if everything in the car failed on the same day on the tenth birthday, the day after you drop it off at the woke, environmentally conscious auto recyclers.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20653 Gender:	Re: Price of used carrs Reply #79 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:11pm rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:48pm: I agree its achievable with some cars to obtain high mileage if you look after them, taxis routinely do over 500 k I believe. . Taxis were getting 500K km back when they used HQ-HJ Holdens with a 202 6 cyl.
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Reply #80 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:11pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:48pm:

I agree its achievable with some cars to obtain high mileage if you look after them, taxis routinely do over 500 k I believe. .

Taxis were getting 500K km back when they used HQ-HJ Holdens with a 202 6 cyl.

I know a taxi fleet operator, hes getting over 500,000 from his cars. He tried to sell me a second hand one actually, a Ford, everything was clapped out except the motor. Maybe Ozzie could weigh in with his experience.

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Reply #82 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 8:14pm:

oh and sprint, i dont belive in engine braking except as a safety measure.

use your brakes.

brake pads are cheap.

clutches and engines are dear.

Engine braking was done back in the old days when cars had crappy brakes it's not needed with modern cars.

Brake pads are cheap and easy to replace brake fluid also needs changing it absorbs water and goes off in the caliper. Put a clear tube on bleeding nipple and bleed them until you see clean new fluid and the pistons in caliper don't rust which means brakes last longer before caliper rebuild.It's no big deal to put new seals in brakes replacing pistons will jack the cost up.

Clutches are expensive in front wheel drive cars as they usually pull engine out, with rear wheel drive less labor much cheaper.

Manuals don't usually need gearbox oil to be replaced which makes them cheaper than autos long term. Autos need gearbox oil changed frequently when oil color changes the pan has to be dropped to change filter CVT are the same they just use a more expensive oil.

Dealer services are a rip off they don't always replace what service guide says they inspect it if it still looks ok they leave it. With most modern cars the service is mainly change the oil and inspect things which is done by an apprentice. If you want to look for a mechanic to do services never choose one who has very little work on they always find poo that doesn't need doing to help pay their bills find one who is always busy.

Had ABS fail on my Lancer VRX Mitsubishi wanted $2800 to replace ABS pump. I know someone who rebuilds ABS pumps took it out to his workshop pulled it out took him an hour to rebuild it then i fitted it then bled the brakes cost me just under $400 to rebuild ABS pump.

Modern cars are easy to work on if you have an OBD2 scanner plug it in and it will tell you what is wrong.

I still do my own servicing wouldn't let anyone touch my SS Torana

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Re: Price of used carrs
Reply #83 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 7:12pm

rhino wrote on Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:11pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:48pm:

I agree its achievable with some cars to obtain high mileage if you look after them, taxis routinely do over 500 k I believe. .

Taxis were getting 500K km back when they used HQ-HJ Holdens with a 202 6 cyl.

I know a taxi fleet operator, hes getting over 500,000 from his cars. He tried to sell me a second hand one actually, a Ford, everything was clapped out except the motor. Maybe Ozzie could weigh in with his experience.

They were getting a lot more kms than that from the HQ-HJ Holdens the government changed the law requiring taxis to be replaced after 4 years in NSW which made them upgrade to new cars.

Engines last longer on LPG it doesn't wash oil from the bores and contaminate oil like petrol does. Oil lasts longer with LPG cars.

If you pull engines apart the black carbon buildup below piston rings is blow by less of this with LPG and this carbon also contributes to bore wear.

Subaru sell a spray can of Upper Engine Cleaner for about $20 which they use with the WRX turbo to remove carbon buildup from piston crowns which glows and becomes incandescant which causes detonation that stuffs the engine. Great stuff cleans piston crowns intakes and valves back to bright shiny metal even frees up sticking piston rings. Pull the spark plugs out spray it down the hole then put the rest through intake manifold i do this every 50K.

I wouldn't buy a BM Trouble you or a Mercedes or a Honda because spare part costs are outrageous.

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Re: Price of used carrs
Reply #84 - Jun 17^th, 2021 at 8:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2021 at 6:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 8:14pm:

oh and sprint, i dont belive in engine braking except as a safety measure.

use your brakes.

brake pads are cheap.

clutches and engines are dear.

Engine braking was done back in the old days when cars had crappy brakes it's not needed with modern cars.

Brake pads are cheap and easy to replace brake fluid also needs changing it absorbs water and goes off in the caliper. Put a clear tube on bleeding nipple and bleed them until you see clean new fluid and the pistons in caliper don't rust which means brakes last longer before caliper rebuild.It's no big deal to put new seals in brakes replacing pistons will jack the cost up.

Clutches are expensive in front wheel drive cars as they usually pull engine out, with rear wheel drive less labor much cheaper.

Manuals don't usually need gearbox oil to be replaced which makes them cheaper than autos long term. Autos need gearbox oil changed frequently when oil color changes the pan has to be dropped to change filter CVT are the same they just use a more expensive oil.

Dealer services are a rip off they don't always replace what service guide says they inspect it if it still looks ok they leave it. With most modern cars the service is mainly change the oil and inspect things which is done by an apprentice. If you want to look for a mechanic to do services never choose one who has very little work on they always find poo that doesn't need doing to help pay their bills find one who is always busy.

Had ABS fail on my Lancer VRX Mitsubishi wanted $2800 to replace ABS pump. I know someone who rebuilds ABS pumps took it out to his workshop pulled it out took him an hour to rebuild it then i fitted it then bled the brakes cost me just under $400 to rebuild ABS pump.

Modern cars are easy to work on if you have an OBD2 scanner plug it in and it will tell you what is wrong.

I still do my own servicing wouldn't let anyone touch my SS Torana

A SS Torana !!!!!!!!!!!!

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