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Reply #60 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:43pm

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:18pm:

also that warranty is NOT transferrable, sell the car and the warranty is void

No, the warranty transfers to the new owner. is there anything you do know?
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In nearly every case, automotive warranties are based on the vehicle identification number (VIN), and the new car warranty will be valid for the full term regardless of ownership. In other words, if you buy a new car and later sell it to someone else, the warranty will still remain valid for the new owner until the end of the original warranty period.

https://www.autotrader.com/car-tips/buying-car-factory-warranty-transferable-228454

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from mitsubishis OWN WEBSITE

The exception is the 10-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty. For subsequent owners, the Mitsubishi powertrain warranty is five years or 60,000 miles instead.

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Reply #61 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:45pm

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

you arent going to get 300,000 km out of that car.

they're not trying to get 300 000ks with that car.

I doubt you'll find many cars on the road with that much mileage that aren't ready for the scrap heap, except for maybe some diesel 4WD's

well, i would consider my car a rolling pile of steaming dog turd if i didnt get 300,000 km out of it.

i'd consider it just broken in at that figure

you can consider whatever you want with your car. That doesn't change the fact that there are not many cars out there with 300 000ks

My wife does less than 15 k a year, she buys a new one after 60k at most.

christ, i'd be buying the missus a new car every 18 months Grin

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Reply #62 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:48pm

I agree its achievable with some cars to obtain high mileage if you look after them, taxis routinely do over 500 k I believe. But the motor may still be going and everything else is falling to pieces, seats etc. Some of the better engineered cars can get really high mileage like beamers and mercs but very expensive to maintain.

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Reply #63 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:49pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:13pm:

gordon

Mitsubishi is poised to introduce Australia’s first 10-year warranty – the longest coverage offered by a car-maker locally, and double the length of time offered by most rivals.

The warranty is set to increase from five or seven years currently offered on selected models, to 10 years coverage across the entire range from October 2020.

However, the extended coverage only applies to vehicles serviced within the Mitsubishi dealer network using the company’s fixed-price service program.

so there goes the "you can go to your own mechanic " lie

10-year/100,000-mile Powertrain Limited Warranty—This warranty covers repairs or replacements of powertrain parts and related components, including the engine, transaxle/transmission, and transfer case.

so....

its only covering the engine and tranny
and its only good for 160,000 km.

i rack up 160,000 km in about 4 years.

so a 10 year warranty Roll Eyes

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i'd rather spend a hundred bucks on good oil and filters and do it much more frequently and see if i can get 500,000 km out of a vehicle (which you can if you service it properly).

Yes, is quite achievable.
Put an auto fluid cooler on it, change the fluids oftenish, drive it smoothly, lots of highway kms.
Quite achievable

excellent suggestion sprint

especially if towing with an auto

you heat up that tranny and its bye bye tranny much sooner.

and if a new tranny costs 8 to 10 grand it may be bye bye car .

i only frive manuals.
the wife drives and auto
hence the tranny cooler .

if you are in a manual you can spare the tranny by driving in a lower gear.
you either generate heat in the engine or the tranny.
its better to abuse the engine a bit then abuse the tranny

put a thermometer in the tranny as well.
you can hook up a scan tool and display the live data

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Reply #64 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:18pm:

also that warranty is NOT transferrable, sell the car and the warranty is void

No, the warranty transfers to the new owner. is there anything you do know?
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In nearly every case, automotive warranties are based on the vehicle identification number (VIN), and the new car warranty will be valid for the full term regardless of ownership. In other words, if you buy a new car and later sell it to someone else, the warranty will still remain valid for the new owner until the end of the original warranty period.

https://www.autotrader.com/car-tips/buying-car-factory-warranty-transferable-228454

rhino, you gotta stop buddy.
i am drwoning in white flags

from mitsubishis OWN WEBSITE

The exception is the 10-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty. For subsequent owners, the Mitsubishi powertrain warranty is five years or 60,000 miles instead.

I haven't looked at the website but I believe the 5 years car + 5 ywars power train was before the new 10 year whole car deal.

It's now either 7 years with your own mechanic or 10 years with Mitsu 'Diamond Advantage-.

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Reply #65 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:50pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:18pm:

also that warranty is NOT transferrable, sell the car and the warranty is void

No, the warranty transfers to the new owner. is there anything you do know?
Quote:

In nearly every case, automotive warranties are based on the vehicle identification number (VIN), and the new car warranty will be valid for the full term regardless of ownership. In other words, if you buy a new car and later sell it to someone else, the warranty will still remain valid for the new owner until the end of the original warranty period.

https://www.autotrader.com/car-tips/buying-car-factory-warranty-transferable-228454

rhino, you gotta stop buddy.
i am drwoning in white flags

from mitsubishis OWN WEBSITE

The exception is the 10-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty. For subsequent owners, the Mitsubishi powertrain warranty is five years or 60,000 miles instead.

get yourself checked,seriously
aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:18pm:

also that warranty is NOT transferrable, sell the car and the warranty is void

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37907 Gender:	Re: Price of used carrs Reply #66 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:51pm yeah gordon but if you sell it, the new owner reverts to a 5 year 100,000 drivetrain warranty.
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Reply #67 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:51pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:45pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:35pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

you arent going to get 300,000 km out of that car.

they're not trying to get 300 000ks with that car.

I doubt you'll find many cars on the road with that much mileage that aren't ready for the scrap heap, except for maybe some diesel 4WD's

well, i would consider my car a rolling pile of steaming dog turd if i didnt get 300,000 km out of it.

i'd consider it just broken in at that figure

you can consider whatever you want with your car. That doesn't change the fact that there are not many cars out there with 300 000ks

My wife does less than 15 k a year, she buys a new one after 60k at most.

christ, i'd be buying the missus a new car every 18 months Grin

Im considering that as well.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Price of used carrs Reply #68 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:52pm aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:51pm: yeah gordon but if you sell it, the new owner reverts to a 5 year 100,000 drivetrain warranty. So not void then like you claimed? You know what void means, right?
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Reply #69 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:55pm

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:51pm:

yeah gordon but if you sell it, the new owner reverts to a 5 year 100,000 drivetrain warranty.

So not void then like you claimed? You know what void means, right?

um, if you sell it at 7 years when YOU still have 3 years of warranty the new owner gets NOTHING. it is VOID Roll Eyes

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Reply #70 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:49pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:42pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:13pm:

gordon

Mitsubishi is poised to introduce Australia’s first 10-year warranty – the longest coverage offered by a car-maker locally, and double the length of time offered by most rivals.

The warranty is set to increase from five or seven years currently offered on selected models, to 10 years coverage across the entire range from October 2020.

However, the extended coverage only applies to vehicles serviced within the Mitsubishi dealer network using the company’s fixed-price service program.

so there goes the "you can go to your own mechanic " lie

10-year/100,000-mile Powertrain Limited Warranty—This warranty covers repairs or replacements of powertrain parts and related components, including the engine, transaxle/transmission, and transfer case.

so....

its only covering the engine and tranny
and its only good for 160,000 km.

i rack up 160,000 km in about 4 years.

so a 10 year warranty Roll Eyes

.

i'd rather spend a hundred bucks on good oil and filters and do it much more frequently and see if i can get 500,000 km out of a vehicle (which you can if you service it properly).

Yes, is quite achievable.
Put an auto fluid cooler on it, change the fluids oftenish, drive it smoothly, lots of highway kms.
Quite achievable

excellent suggestion sprint

especially if towing with an auto

you heat up that tranny and its bye bye tranny much sooner.

and if a new tranny costs 8 to 10 grand it may be bye bye car .

i only frive manuals.
the wife drives and auto
hence the tranny cooler .

if you are in a manual you can spare the tranny by driving in a lower gear.
you either generate heat in the engine or the tranny.
its better to abuse the engine a bit then abuse the tranny

put a thermometer in the tranny as well.
you can hook up a scan tool and display the live data

I did not realise that about manual transmissions.
So if they are 'spinning' they get hotter?

My thinking of an auto, if doing heavy work, keep the revs up so it does not slip.
Lock it into a lower gear. Not silly low.
Just keep the revs up to 2000 ish or more when doing heavy work.

Going up the tamborine mountain I lock the 5 speed auto into 3rd or 2nd on the way up.
2nd gear on the way down.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41832 Gender:	Re: Price of used carrs Reply #71 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 8:02pm rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:40pm: .............. My wife does less than 15 k a year, she buys a new one after 60k at most. That would probably work very well really. Look at the advantages. Pretty good.
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Reply #72 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 8:12pm

sprint

a certain ammount of heat will be produced to do a certain ammount of work (i think its the second law of thermodynamics)

so going up a hill pulling a van you will get increased heat in the engine or increased heat in the transmission .

if you keep it in a lower gear, you are making more of that heat appear in the engine and engines can generally tolerate that better then transmission.

when you heat up tranny oil, firstly cvt oil is very expensive and secondly its a lot harder to change (the issue of sealed units Cry

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engine oil is easy to replace.

dont listen to this mumbo jumbo about 15 or 20,000 km service intervals.

do your oil twice as often as they recoomend and use a good quality synthetic oil.

especially if you have a turbo.

dirty oil wont lube your turbo as well, it will create more gunk to clog the intake it will clog the DPF, it will affect the CAT and when the CAT gets a bit clogged , the engine heats up as exhaust gases cant escape as well.

there is nothing better you can do then change it all the time as well as your air filter and fuel filter . and your radiator fluid , brake fluid.

dirty fluids act like cutting compounds and they wreck seals .

change them all the time

even get a big 50 ml syringe and change a bit of your power steering and brake fluid every 6 months so its always getting a freshen up

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37907 Gender:	Re: Price of used carrs Reply #73 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 8:14pm oh and sprint, i dont belive in engine braking except as a safety measure. use your brakes. brake pads are cheap. clutches and engines are dear.
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Reply #74 - Jun 16^th, 2021 at 9:07pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:55pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:52pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 16^th, 2021 at 7:51pm:

yeah gordon but if you sell it, the new owner reverts to a 5 year 100,000 drivetrain warranty.

So not void then like you claimed? You know what void means, right?

um, if you sell it at 7 years when YOU still have 3 years of warranty the new owner gets NOTHING. it is VOID Roll Eyes

yes, we know that. That wasnt your claim. Just admit you got it wrong and move on. Wink

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