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Reply #60 - May 27th, 2021 at 8:38pm
 
NonIsraeli Jews are supporting the Palestinians.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #61 - May 28th, 2021 at 12:52am
 
Well - Hasidic Jews can be a bit like that... so tied up in academic consideration that they can't see the trees or the forest... sort of like feminists and such... you know....
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #62 - May 28th, 2021 at 8:40am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 27th, 2021 at 3:06pm:
Which points to the need for an international institution capable of upholding an international rules-based system. since people who support genocidal maniacs exist on both sides of the argument.

It's hard to know whether that comment is just Chinese dark humour or you're actually serious and naive.

How did the CSNSP respond to the PCA's ruling against China in the South China Sea?

On July 12, the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) unanimously ruled that many of China’s claims to the South China Sea had “no legal basis.”

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Reply #63 - May 28th, 2021 at 8:55am
 
The conflict in one photo
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #64 - May 28th, 2021 at 9:25am
 

"Israel did not win the war on Gaza"




It must be true !

Because these were some of the headlines which were sighted in Turkish daily newspapers during the conflict....


"Palestinian fighters shot 137 rockets into Israel within five minutes."

"Israel is a state of terror...."

"This is how al-Qassam Brigade hit a lifeline oil plant in Ashkelon-Eilat,"

"Hamas hits, Zionists are burning,"

"Rockets shock Zionists."

"Tel Aviv turns into hell..."

"Zionists are fleeing Hamas rockets."


https://www.meforum.org/62357/turkey-awash-in-anti-israel-propaganda



This report may be seen on the Sunday morning HYPER-BOWL segment on the 'OUTSIDERS',
on SKY on WIN.   ???


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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #65 - May 28th, 2021 at 9:45am
 
Gordon wrote on May 28th, 2021 at 8:55am:
The conflict in one photo



Not really factoring in the Palestinian women and children that can't get access to fresh water because Israel built a wall, now is it.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #66 - May 28th, 2021 at 9:46am
 



@ Reply #60,

NonIsraeli Jews are supporting the Palestinians.

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Not a very Tanakh [the Hebrew Bible] based position, for any Jewish person to declare that he holds 'ZIONISTS' in disdain !

Or to declare that; "JUDAISM REJECTS ZIONISM" !!!


But hey !     All ISLAMISTS support freedom of conscience.     Right ???




"The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob."

"Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1539305319/3#3


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1 Kings 8:1
Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of Israel, unto king Solomon in Jerusalem, that they might bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion.


Psalms 14:7
Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.


Psalms 48:1
Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness.
Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.


Psalms 50:1
The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.
2  Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
3  Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.
4  He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people.


Psalms 65:1
Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow be performed.
2  O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come.
3  Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away.
Blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even of thy holy temple.


Psalms 69:34
Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.
35  For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.
36  The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.


Psalms 87:1
His foundation is in the holy mountains.
The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
3  Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah.
4  I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there.
5  And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her.


Psalms 110:2
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.


Psalms 125:1
They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.
2  As the mountains are round about Jerusalem, so the LORD is round about his people from henceforth even for ever.
3  For the rod of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; lest the righteous put forth their hands unto iniquity.
4  Do good, O LORD, unto those that be good, and to them that are upright in their hearts.
5  As for such as turn aside unto their crooked ways, the LORD shall lead them forth with the workers of iniquity: but peace shall be upon Israel.


Psalms 129:4
The LORD is righteous: he hath cut asunder the cords of the wicked.
Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.


Psalms 132:13
For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.



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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #67 - May 28th, 2021 at 10:01am
 
Yadda, you geriatric, degenerate, reactionary, you need to try to keep up. The world is changing. Old fables no longer captivate zealots.
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Reply #68 - May 28th, 2021 at 11:56am
 
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2021 at 5:40pm:
The greater visibility that Islam's agenda has obtained in the west in the last two decades has definitely turned the opinion in favour of Israel. People have stopped assuming it is Israel's fault merely because they always win. People could not comprehend losers picking the same fight over and over again, and losing over and over again, until they met Islam. Now it all makes sense.


You're kidding surely. The global demos recently - like the BLM protests last year - were anti-Israeli at least 10 to 1.
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Reply #69 - May 28th, 2021 at 12:15pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on May 28th, 2021 at 8:40am:
It's hard to know whether that comment is just Chinese dark humour or you're actually serious and naive.



I'm as "serious and naive" as 'Doc' Evatt, former High Court Judge of Australia who along with many smaller nations resisted the enforced adoption of the UNSC veto in 1946. (btw Evatt also supported the creation the modern State of Israel).

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How did the CSNSP respond to the PCA's ruling against China in the South China Sea?

On July 12, the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) unanimously ruled that many of China’s claims to the South China Sea had “no legal basis.”


Trouble is everyone ignores UN rulings, for the reason I already outlined...which you term naive, based on your  delusional "individual rights/individual sovereignty" ideology, which doesn't exist in nature.

China is super-sensitive about the S. China sea because the US inisists on sailing its warships through the Taiwan Strait and arming Taiwan. Remember the US' reaction to Soviet presence in Cuba?   

And it's only recently the democracy ideologues in Taiwan have decided they are no longer the rightful rulers of China.

Guess what, it's not their decision to decide who is the rightful government of China.
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Reply #70 - May 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 28th, 2021 at 12:15pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on May 28th, 2021 at 8:40am:
It's hard to know whether that comment is just Chinese dark humour or you're actually serious and naive.



I'm as "serious and naive" as 'Doc' Evatt, former High Court Judge of Australia who along with many smaller nations resisted the enforced adoption of the UNSC veto in 1946. (btw Evatt also supported the creation the modern State of Israel).

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How did the CSNSP respond to the PCA's ruling against China in the South China Sea?

On July 12, the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) unanimously ruled that many of China’s claims to the South China Sea had “no legal basis.”


Trouble is everyone ignores UN rulings, for the reason I already outlined...which you term naive, based on your  delusional "individual rights/individual sovereignty" ideology, which doesn't exist in nature.

China is super-sensitive about the S. China sea because the US inisists on sailing its warships through the Taiwan Strait and arming Taiwan. Remember the US' reaction to Soviet presence in Cuba?   

And it's only recently the democracy ideologues in Taiwan have decided they are no longer the rightful rulers of China.

Guess what, it's not their decision to decide who is the rightful government of China.

Let's just say the CSNSP is more than just super-sensitive, it's dangerously, even ridiculously, paranoid.

Its fear even extends to Chloe Zhao and not for the content of the film she directed, but because 10 years ago she was quoted as saying: "It goes back to when I was a teenager in China, being in a place where there are lies everywhere. You felt like you were never going to be able to get out. A lot of info I received when I was younger was not true, and I became very rebellious toward my family and my background.”.

For this she was vilified by the CSNSP; not lauded as a great Chinese-descent artist.

On a more stupid note, there's the 'crime' of criticising the late Yuan Longping, for which a Chinese national can be arrested.

The CSNSP's idiotic and neurotic paranoia is eclipsed by a more destructive kind, like the arbitrary imposing of sanctions on Australia for asking the regime for an open investigation into the pandemic after an obvious cover-up... The most dangerous kind is the CSNSP's treatment of China's ethnic and religious minorities.

In short, the world needs this regime to end. The world is done with it. What else would the CSNSP inflict on the world if it wasn't kept in check.
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Reply #72 - May 28th, 2021 at 2:29pm
 
The world is changing:

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Reply #73 - May 28th, 2021 at 2:43pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on May 28th, 2021 at 12:39pm:
Let's just say the CSNSP is more than just super-sensitive, it's dangerously, even ridiculously, paranoid.


No, but I already explained why your false 'individual sovereignty ' delusion renders you ideologically blind.

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Its fear even extends to Chloe Zhao and not for the content of the film she directed, but because 10 years ago she was quoted as saying: "It goes back to when I was a teenager in China, being in a place where there are lies everywhere. You felt like you were never going to be able to get out. A lot of info I received when I was younger was not true, and I became very rebellious toward my family and my background.”


It's not easy for a  Marxist state to dispel the Western delusion of individual sovereignty based on classical liberalism and its fake natural rights dogma.

That's why China has to fight to maintain its Marxist course, in pursuit of an economy that works for everyone, not just deluded people like Zhao who think its great to be free, regardless of anyone else's circumstances.

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For this she was vilified by the CSNSP; not lauded as a great Chinese-descent artist.


And she deserved to be vilified as a traitor to the Marxist cause of universal economic well-being, ....like all Randian "freedom" fools. 

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On a more stupid note, there's the 'crime' of criticising the late Yuan Longping, for which a Chinese national can be arrested.


The inventor of high yield rice? Why would you criticize him?

Nothing like the stupidity of arrest for criticizing the King in 'democrati Thailand; whereas the CCP is the guardian of Marxism in China.

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The CSNSP's idiotic and neurotic paranoia is eclipsed by a more destructive kind, like the arbitrary imposing of sanctions on Australia for asking the regime for an open investigation into the pandemic after an obvious cover-up... The most dangerous kind is the CSNSP's treatment of China's ethnic and religious minorities.


More blind ideology. To further explain, the CCP must defend
the principle of universal economic well-being against instinctive greed which is the natural state of all of us.

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In short, the world needs this regime to end. The world is done with it. What else would the CSNSP inflict on the world if it wasn't kept in check.


No; if the Marxist principle  disappears, the planet's biodiversity and ecological health are destroyed... by endless self-serving wars, and increasing inequality and poverty resulting from un-managed individual self interest.
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Reply #74 - May 28th, 2021 at 2:51pm
 
LTYC wants to give these sexy guys a big kiss.


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