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Israel did not win the war on Gaza (Read 24403 times)
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Reply #420 - Apr 24th, 2025 at 7:03pm
 
And if there was a territorial settlement, all that billions of aid money that the Hamas and PLO leaders pinch would be cut off. Can't have that!
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #421 - Apr 25th, 2025 at 2:14pm
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 2:05pm:
[quote author=somers_trail link=1621916534/417#417 date=1745389520]Every single death in Gaza is ultimately the responsibility of Hamas (and the PLO) just as every death in Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo and Hiroshima and such was ultimately the responsibility of Hitler and Hirohito.


You are not ready to learn, which is why you can't address the issues I raised re the UN and its failed attempt to introduce an international rules based system (to which most world leaders claim they are signed up).

Carry on blaming other nations and peoples for the endless wars and entrenched poverty ruining our world.

[WW2 was merely a continuation of WW1, in which Germany was  asserting its right (as she saw it) to assert its place in the world, vis a vis the old British, Russian, and Austrian Empires. Ditto for Japan with its own imperialist desires leading up to WW2.  And the Cold War was based a conflict between Capitalism and Communism; both systems have weaknesses, ask Trump..... ]


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Hamas doesn't want peace, the people of GAZA of whom the majority support Hamas don't want peace.


A majority of Palestinians live in the WB;  and Abbas (leader of the governing Fatah party)  decries Hamas's suicidal policicies, while many Gazans have recently called for Hamas to change course. 

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They want the Israelis/Jews gone - from the River to the Sea.

They are brainwashed fanatics - they have done the same to all their children.

Their aims in life aren't to get a good education & or a job - their aims are to grow up, blow up or kill as many Jews as they can and become martyrs for the cause.


Your error:  "they" are not all Palestinians, as noted above. 

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Something you choose to ignore whilst you bleat on about the stinking UN & their corrupt branches.


Your error: I want blind ideologues like you to comprehend WHY the UN failed to implement the proposed  'international rules based order' which was urgently sought by all, after the destruction caused by WW2;  and WHY the UN failed to ensure a non-violent reaction to its partition of Palestine (UN res 181), without addressing the obvious opposition from Muslims who objected to the confiscation of half their land for the benefit of "infidels" (Jews).

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UNRWA is the perfect example.


No it's not, except for a blind ideolgue like you, as pointed out above. 

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You excuse & justify this entrenched hatred by so called Palestinian people who will never accept any solution accept the annihilation of the State of Israel and it's Jewish citizens.


No, I want the UNSC to be instituted to "save mankind from the scourge of war" - and blind ideologues like you. 

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Speaking of deplorable? You make me bilious.

...UNRA...etc
 

Yes, exposing your ideological blindness will upset you, no doubt ....but there it is.

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Western Countries Fund UNRWA’s $1.6 Billion Budget

These teachers of hate are largely funded by Western countries who contribute the lion’s share of UNRWA’s $1.6 billion-dollar budget.

Amounts pledged for 2022 included $344 million from the United States, $122 million from Germany, $107 million from the European Commission, $61 million from Sweden, $17 million from the UK, $24 million from Switzerland, $32 million from Norway, $28 million from France, $24 million from Canada, and $15 million from the Netherlands.


Yes, because Israel, backed by the two-faced US, have blocked UN res 242,  and so the Gazans need life-support in the world's largest open air prison.

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And you waffle on about the 1947 partition plan which the Arabs rejected causing Israel to be having to defend itself from all sides ever since.  Roll Eyes


See the errors you make when you reject an effective international rules based order and prefer to rely on settlement of disputes which arise from differing conceptions of what is "right", ie a settlement of disputes via war. 
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Reply #422 - May 8th, 2025 at 10:07pm
 

Houthis, have declared a complete aerial blockade of Israel.



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Reply #423 - May 10th, 2025 at 3:10pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2025 at 10:07pm:
Houthis, have declared a complete aerial blockade of Israel.





Gotta admit they got guts, facing the US 'star wars' military capabilities.

Iran has finally woken up, and said they don't want war with the US (or Israel backed by the US).
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