Heard on radio today: RW Jewish ideologue Bennett (the new Israeli leader) say Palestine has been Jewish for 4000 years......"just read any Bible"....trouble is he forgot to say the OT canon (the Jewish Bible) ceases around 300BC, soon after Alexander's conquest of the ME.

Also heard  RW ideologue Netanyahu led anti-Rabin rallies during the PLO negotiations era, during which "death to Rabin" was a constant refrain, revealing the RW in all its ugliness.

Nice to know you are listening to the wireless.

Me too!!

Bertie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2021 at 8:44pm:

No, they were a Canaanite tribe subsumed into Israel by force c.1100BC, as was always the case with conquest of territory occupied by other people, UNTIL 1946....a point which you cannot grasp because of your ideological delusions.

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No, BOTH were illegal, though the UNSC was unable to intervene on behalf of international law, because the UNSC was rendered incapable of defending international law, because sovereignty of the individual ideologues forced the veto onto the UNSC (in 1946).


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which should only have been created if the UNSC was empowered to guarantee its security, and the security of Palestine. (Of course, the Arab world would not have accepted Israel's creation, but a properly constituted  UNSC could have ensured a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem, and avoidance of the refugee calamity in 1947. 

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Great ideology there; take part of a country by force, and then claim the pre-existing country does not exist.

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You are both opposite sides of the same age-old might is right system.

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Like I said, 1946 (and the beginning of MAD in human history) is the change-over date to a new system, in which the only way to end MAD is the de-legitimization of war between nations.

Meanwhile  the occupation of the WB will always be deemed illegal under international law. Even Biden is still paying lip service to a two-state solution. i

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 9^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:


Er....China  was an existing state which absorbed surrounding  states into itself,  reaching its greatest extent in the Qing era, as was the norm before before 1946 when inclusive international law was proposed for the first  tiime.   

Israel ceased to exist as a state 2K years ago, until the UN proposed the partition of Palestine, in 1947

See the difference? Israel is attempting to take all Palestine by force - after 1946, which is illegal. See UN resolutions 181 and 242.

Whereas China is asserting its former soverignty over Tibet, HK, Taiwan, Xinjiang (but not outer Mongolia) a sovereignty which still existed in 1911.

....and no-one in the UN has claimed Chinese soveignty was illegal after 1949 ie there are no resolutions stating it.   









   

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 9^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:


It was about ideology, now it should be about international law.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 9^th, 2021 at 6:35pm:


Er...the Chinese conquered Tibet 300 years ago, before such conquest was illegal; and after  the collapse of the Qing dynasty in 1912, the following applied  (wiki) ;

"The Provisional Constitution of the Republic of China adopted in 1912 specifically established frontier regions of the new republic, including Tibet, as integral parts of the state"

Israel of course ceased to exist 2000 years ago...until the partition of Palestine by the UN in 1947.  Spot the difference?