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Israel did not win the war on Gaza (Read 24428 times)
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #150 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:37pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 9:09pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 9:06pm:
The Israelis never enslaved the Palestinians. They gave them freedom and democracy for the first time in the 1400 year history of Islam. They gave it to them from the very beginning. All they had to do is want it.

Do you have a problem with Muslims and Jews living together in a liberal democracy? I know plenty of Muslims do, but now is your chance to think for yourself.


Around ~2 million are enslaved in Gaza. They cannot leave, they cannot have a seaport, they cannot have an airport. Israel steals Gaza aid money.


Gaza has a border with Egypt. Why do idiots like you ignore this fact?

Egypt took control of Gaza in 1948 they lost it to Israel in 1967 6 day war. Israel gave Gaza back in 2005.

The only time Palestinians have controlled Gaza is from 2005 when Israel gave it back it's now an Islamic shithole run by Hamas.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #151 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:40pm
 
Taking you at your word....'they gave it back.'

And now 'they' are invading it.
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Reply #152 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Israel has been fighting to retain lands it has no right to take....in Gaza.  The Gazans are fighting back as best they can given the massive support the State of Israel relies upon from the West.  It would be a fair fight if the same support was given to the Palestinians.

The Brits are the root of the problem.


Israel hasn't taken any land in Gaza ya dopey taxi driver.

The US does give aid to Israel which is compensation for restraining them from selling weapons technology to other countries.

Our FA18 use this Israeli technology for precision bombs many countries would like this technology have a look at who is using it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litening

I would say about 80% of our Navy weapons systems come from Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Weapon_Station

The Iron Dome system Israel used to shoot down thousands of Hams and Islamic Jihad rockets is made by the same Israeli company. The US tried to develop a missile system to shoot down missiles they couldn't do it even when they knew when rockets were launched and where they were going they spent billions trying. Have a look at the small number of countries the Iron Dome will be sold to. It was cheaper for the US to fund the jews in developing this system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

All the good precision military technology comes from the jews in Israel we should have chosen Israeli spec F35 they have ironed out all the bugs.

Precision weapon from Palestine muslims.




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Reply #153 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:53pm
 
More precision weapons from muslims who gave us the shoe and undie bombers.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #154 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:56pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:40pm:
Taking you at your word....'they gave it back.'

And now 'they' are invading it.


They didn't invade Gaza you're bullshitting again.

Perhaps you should stick to driving taxis and wondering about clits.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #155 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 12:31pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 2:51am:
freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 9:17pm:
You do not know what slavery is.


Slaves have no freedom.

What freedoms do the Palestinians have?





Israel's Declaration of Independence called for the establishment of a Jewish state with equality of social and political rights, irrespective of religion, race, or sex.[206]

The rights of citizens are guaranteed by a set of basic laws (Israel does not have a written constitution).[207] Although this set of laws does not explicitly include the term "right to equality", the Israeli Supreme Court has consistently interpreted "Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty"[208] and "Basic Law: Freedom of Occupation (1994)"[209] as guaranteeing equal rights for all Israeli citizens.[210]

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that "Arab Israelis are citizens of Israel with equal rights" and states that "The only legal distinction between Arab and Jewish citizens is not one of rights, but rather of civic duty. Since Israel's establishment, Arab citizens have been exempted from compulsory service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)."[211] Druze and Circassians are drafted into the Israeli army, while other Arabs may serve voluntarily; however, only a very small number of Arabs choose to volunteer for the Israeli army[212]).



What part of,

although their rights to political participation and representation are recognized by Israeli and international law, in practice they face widespread discrimination, including in terms of citizenship, housing, education and health care

do you not understand?
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Reply #156 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm
 
If you had to chose to live in any country in the Middle East or North Africa, which one would you choose?
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Reply #157 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm
 
Cute.....so you are asserting that no Israeli settlements have been slowly encroaching into Gaza.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #158 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
If you had to chose to live in any country in the Middle East or North Africa, which one would you choose?


You are confused Effendi. 
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #159 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:03pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
If you had to chose to live in any country in the Middle East or North Africa, which one would you choose?


You are confused Effendi. 


You are incapable of giving an honest answer Aussie. If you were to talk about your own future, you would have to actually think about what you are saying.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #160 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
If you had to chose to live in any country in the Middle East or North Africa, which one would you choose?


You are confused Effendi. 


You are incapable of giving an honest answer Aussie. If you were to talk about your own future, you would have to actually think about what you are saying.


Aussie has never met a Jew, so how would he know if he wants to live in Israel?
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #161 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:10pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 12:31pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 2:51am:
freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2021 at 9:17pm:
You do not know what slavery is.


Slaves have no freedom.

What freedoms do the Palestinians have?





Israel's Declaration of Independence called for the establishment of a Jewish state with equality of social and political rights, irrespective of religion, race, or sex.[206]

The rights of citizens are guaranteed by a set of basic laws (Israel does not have a written constitution).[207] Although this set of laws does not explicitly include the term "right to equality", the Israeli Supreme Court has consistently interpreted "Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty"[208] and "Basic Law: Freedom of Occupation (1994)"[209] as guaranteeing equal rights for all Israeli citizens.[210]

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that "Arab Israelis are citizens of Israel with equal rights" and states that "The only legal distinction between Arab and Jewish citizens is not one of rights, but rather of civic duty. Since Israel's establishment, Arab citizens have been exempted from compulsory service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF)."[211] Druze and Circassians are drafted into the Israeli army, while other Arabs may serve voluntarily; however, only a very small number of Arabs choose to volunteer for the Israeli army[212]).



What part of,

although their rights to political participation and representation are recognized by Israeli and international law, in practice they face widespread discrimination, including in terms of citizenship, housing, education and health care

do you not understand?


Hams is the government in Gaza they're Islamist, What right s if any do christians have in Gaza under Islamic apartheid?

Islamic apartheid is quite common look at Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan the Taliban in Afghanistan or Al Shaabab in Somalia or even Boko Haram in Nigeria and tell us what rights if any minorities have in any of those countries.

Islamic apartheid is much worse for minorities why are people silent about this?
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #162 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:03pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
If you had to chose to live in any country in the Middle East or North Africa, which one would you choose?


You are confused Effendi. 


You are incapable of giving an honest answer Aussie. If you were to talk about your own future, you would have to actually think about what you are saying.


Your confusion is getting worse, Effendi.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #163 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
Cute.....so you are asserting that no Israeli settlements have been slowly encroaching into Gaza.


Can you provide evidence of any Israeli settlements in Gaza since 2005 or are you bullshitting again?

Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 all Israelis were removed they even dug up graves of dead jews and removed them as well.

Hamas leader Ismail Haniyehs sisters prefer to live in Israel his 17 year old niece was recently treated in an Israeli hospital for cancer.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #164 - Jun 2nd, 2021 at 9:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 2nd, 2021 at 5:47pm:
More freedom than in any other middle eastern country.


Which middle eastern countries subject their citizens to widespread discrimination, including in terms of citizenship, housing, education and health care, the way Israel does to its non-Jewish population?

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That is not a rational argument.


Those are the facts. How can you call that not rational?

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Seems you do not know what democracy is either.


If you claim Israel is a democracy then you are blissfully unaware of not only the facts on the ground but also the history:

'When I talked to these people I saw that they took (the Bible) literally. Furthermore, in one of my conversations with Mr. Ben Gurion he made the remark that, "the Bible is our charter." I began to realize that Zionism is a thinly veiled theocracy. The Bible was in their minds when they were talking, but they used modern nationalistic language in order to hide the fact that this was theocratic in nature. They realized that a theocratic society would not appeal to America.

'I might mention here that I have found Zionism very deceitful. There is a double meaning in all the words Zionists use, and [Chaim] Weizmann himself said one time, "Let the British or anyone else talk about Zionism and they can use our terminology, but we know what the meaning of it is. It has one meaning to us, one meaning to the Gentiles." They've always had this double-entendre in everything that they have done. Whenever they use words you have to try to find out what is the context in which they are using these words.'
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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