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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #120 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 10:09am

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 4:40pm:

Bertie wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 2:13pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 2:04pm:

Bertie wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 1:54pm:

UN Resolution 181 created Israel. Israel accepted the UN decision, the neighbouring Muslims didn't and immediately attacked the UN-created new country of Israel.

Take it from there - the Muslims did not accept the UN decision and started a war. And Israel has been fighting BACK ever since.

Jews committed genocide and mass murder to create their state of Israel. That doesn't give Israelis the right to murder Palestinian civilians daily as they do now.

I don't think you can provide any evidence for this assertion.

You don't think is the only true part of your answer.

So you can't back up you assertion then, only awkwardly sidestep your obvious inability. If you had evidence you could have easily provided it. But all you have is mindless hyperbole.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #121 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 6:56pm

Bertie wrote on May 30^th, 2021 at 12:44pm:

wombatwoody wrote on May 30^th, 2021 at 12:57am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 26^th, 2021 at 6:08pm:

The term anti-semite is meaningless when both side are semitic.

Actually they're not. The majority of Israeli Jews are descendants of a Turkic people, from a land once called Kharazia.

This is why many of them - Netanyahu is a prime example - appear to be more European than Middle Eastern.

Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe talks about this at length.

Well, it is a hypothesis. The Jews have been perhaps the most mobile people in the last 2000 years, intermingling with everyone from Scandinavia to North Africa and Persia to Portugal.

You wouldn't say that if you'd studied that work.

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'But the most striking characteristic of the Khazars was the apparent adoption of Judaism by the khagan and the greater part of the ruling class in about 740 ... but the fact itself is undisputed and unparalleled in central Eurasian history. A few scholars have even asserted that the Judaized Khazars were the remote ancestors of many eastern European and Russian Jews.'

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Khazar

And if those Britannica editors studied Koestler's work they wouldn't write this:

The circumstances of the conversion remain obscure, the depth of their adoption of Judaism difficult to assess

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #122 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:03pm

Bertie wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 2:13pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 2:04pm:

Bertie wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 1:54pm:

UN Resolution 181 created Israel. Israel accepted the UN decision, the neighbouring Muslims didn't and immediately attacked the UN-created new country of Israel.

Take it from there - the Muslims did not accept the UN decision and started a war. And Israel has been fighting BACK ever since.

Jews committed genocide and mass murder to create their state of Israel. That doesn't give Israelis the right to murder Palestinian civilians daily as they do now.

I don't think you can provide any evidence for this assertion.

See The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe:

'Ilan Pappe is an Israeli historian and senior lecturer at Haifa University. He’s also Academic Director of the Research Institute for Peace at Givat Haviva and Chair of the Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian Studies. Pappe is an expert on Israel and Zionism and the Palestinians’ Right of Return to their homeland ... He proves from official records how the Israeli state came into being with blood on its hands from lands forcibly seized from its Palestinian inhabitants who’d lived on it for hundreds of years previously. Since the 1940s, they were ethnically cleansed and slaughtered without mercy so their homeland would become one for Jews alone. '

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/the-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestine-by-ilan-pap...

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #123 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:10pm

Bertie wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 1:54pm:

UN Resolution 181 created Israel. Israel accepted the UN decision, the neighbouring Muslims didn't and immediately attacked the UN-created new country of Israel.

Take it from there - the Muslims did not accept the UN decision and started a war. And Israel has been fighting BACK ever since.

Because had they done so then they would've become second-class citizens in their own land.

The UN vote was rigged anyway. The Zionists threatened smaller nations like Sri Lanka. Vote for Israel or all aid will be be cut off.

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #124 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 8:43pm

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Because had they done so then they would've become second-class citizens in their own land.

The Palestinian Muslims who accepted Israel now have more rights and freedoms, and more say in their own governance, than in any other middle eastern country. The Jews literally brought freedom and democracy, and most of the Muslims demonstrated that they would prefer Islam.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #125 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:03pm

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 8:43pm:

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Because had they done so then they would've become second-class citizens in their own land.

The Palestinian Muslims who accepted Israel now have more rights and freedoms

That's a terrible argument.

That's no different to the argument used by American slave owners to justify slavery.

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #126 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:06pm

The Israelis never enslaved the Palestinians. They gave them freedom and democracy for the first time in the 1400 year history of Islam. They gave it to them from the very beginning. All they had to do is want it.

Do you have a problem with Muslims and Jews living together in a liberal democracy? I know plenty of Muslims do, but now is your chance to think for yourself.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #127 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:06pm:

The Israelis never enslaved the Palestinians. They gave them freedom and democracy for the first time in the 1400 year history of Islam. They gave it to them from the very beginning. All they had to do is want it.

Do you have a problem with Muslims and Jews living together in a liberal democracy? I know plenty of Muslims do, but now is your chance to think for yourself.

Around ~2 million are enslaved in Gaza. They cannot leave, they cannot have a seaport, they cannot have an airport. Israel steals Gaza aid money.

Israel murders civilians and children in Gaza as a sport called "mowing the grass".

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49985 At my desk.	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #128 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm You don't know what slavery is. Muslims steal the aid money to buy rockets to fire into Israel.
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wombatwoody Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3264 Wombat NSW	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #129 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:11pm When the Palestinians were denied the right to be equal citizens in their own land that's essentially the same as slavery.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39112 Gender:	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #130 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:13pm freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm: You don't know what slavery is. Muslims steal the aid money to buy rockets to fire into Israel. IF that is true....I guess they have to use whatever resource they have to attempt to match what the West gives to the State of Israel.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza Reply #131 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:16pm freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm: You don't know what slavery is. Muslims steal the aid money to buy rockets to fire into Israel. There are only a few shekels left after expert robbers in Israel take their fill.
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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #132 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:17pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:09pm:

You don't know what slavery is.

Muslims steal the aid money to buy rockets to fire into Israel.

IF that is true....I guess they have to use whatever resource they have to attempt to match what the West gives to the State of Israel.

Because they "have to" destroy a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards places on earth, just like you?

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When the Palestinians were denied the right to be equal citizens in their own land that's essentially the same as slavery.

You do not know what slavery is.

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #133 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:22pm

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 7:10pm:

Bertie wrote on May 31^st, 2021 at 1:54pm:

UN Resolution 181 created Israel. Israel accepted the UN decision, the neighbouring Muslims didn't and immediately attacked the UN-created new country of Israel.

Take it from there - the Muslims did not accept the UN decision and started a war. And Israel has been fighting BACK ever since.

Because had they done so then they would've become second-class citizens in their own land.

The UN vote was rigged anyway. The Zionists threatened smaller nations like Sri Lanka. Vote for Israel or all aid will be be cut off.

So jews controlled everything and still do? Cheesy

Why resist then, if it's all been controlled by the jews even before Israel was declared?? The Jews controlled everifin' while the holocaust was happening.

Your own idea?

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Re: Israel did not win the war on Gaza
Reply #134 - Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:27pm

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 1^st, 2021 at 9:11pm:

When the Palestinians were denied the right to be equal citizens in their own land that's essentially the same as slavery.

That is just stupid.

So every ethnicity without its own country are slaves?

You morons go overboard so quickly with the emotional hyperbole that you forfeit any claim to rationalality from then on.

Bwianesque.

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