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May 24th, 2021 at 6:25am
 
Coal investments ‘must stop now’: Australia isolated as world’s largest economies ditch coal
May 23 2021 New Daily.
The world’s powerhouse economies have turned their backs on coal, with economists warning Australia is setting itself up for misery if the federal government keeps investing in fossil fuels.

On Friday, the influential G7 group of nations hammered another nail into coal’s coffin by announcing they would stop international financing of coal projects in a bid to tackle climate change and limit the rise in global temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels.

In a communique, the world’s seven largest advanced economies – the United States, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, plus the European Union – said international investments in “unabated coal must stop now”.

“(We) commit to take concrete steps towards an absolute end to new direct government support for unabated international thermal coal power generation by the end of 2021, including through Official Development Assistance, export finance, investment, and financial and trade promotion support,” the G7 nations said.

Getting Japan on board with the decision means Australia is increasingly isolated on the global stage when it comes to funding and investing in coal.

The Morrison government’s stance on climate change is not only turning Australia into a pariah internationally, but taxpayer funds are also being squandered by the government’s ongoing investment in fossil fuels, analysts warned.   Sad

Climate Council economist Nicki Hutley said Australia was being left in an “exposed” position.

“We can stick our heads in the sand for as long as we like but if we don’t do the right things and follow along, they will stop buying more than just our coal.

“Our exports are exposed, they’ve talked about a carbon border tax … coal is the second-largest commodity. We need to start transitioning now.”

Climate change has run a destructive and divisive path through Australian politics for decades, but the decisions the current government is making will set up the next generation for environmental and economic ruin, Ms Hutley said.

The government’s announcement earlier this week that it would build a $600 million gas-powered plant in the Hunter was a “complete waste of taxpayer money”, she said.   Sad

Paris agreement in jeopardy
Last week’s federal budget also put more than $58 million towards expanding the gas industry.

“Australia is vulnerable to climate change, average temperature rises have been higher here,” Ms Hutley said.

The G7 decision comes in the same week the International Energy Agency released a landmark report making it clear that if the world is going to keep the chance of meeting the Paris climate agreement targets alive then there should be no investment in coal, oil or gas.

Australia Institute climate change and energy director Richie Merzian said the G7 decision was “huge” and left Australia out in the cold.

“[Now] we can’t hide behind other countries,” Mr Merzian said.

“Everyone knows the party is going to end sometime, no one is saying coal is going to continue forever. China, Japan, Korea, they are all going to net zero.”

This week US President Joe Biden announced his nation would push itself to be the world’s leader in electric vehicle production, effectively entering an electric car race with China.

“Australia is so fixated on fossil fuels we’re missing out on huge opportunities elsewhere,” Mr Merzian said.   Sad

“We’re grasping onto the past, and missing out on those ideas of the future.”
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Reply #1 - May 24th, 2021 at 10:23am
 
This Western urge to self-neuter is stupid and tragic.

You cant make steel, aluminium, etc with solar or wind power.

"End coal" just means export all heavy industry and Western self-reliance to China and the third world (incereasingly captured by China).

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Reply #2 - May 24th, 2021 at 1:22pm
 
whiteknight wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 6:25am:
Australia isolated as world’s largest economies ditch coal


whiteknight wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 6:25am:
the United States, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan,


Strangely it doesn't mention China. Which is 2nd by GDP. It doesn't mention India either. Brazil? Nope no mention again.

Oh only "Advanced" economies. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Edit: Meanwhile Germany ipened its latest coal plant 12 Months ago.

Perhaps they just don't want coal eported for others the have access to cheap electricity.

"What is expected to be the last new coal plant to come online in Germany entered commercial operation on May 30, more than a decade after it was first planned.

The 1,100-MW Datteln 4 power plant, owned by Uniper and located in Datteln in the North Rhine-Westphalia region, opened despite the German government’s stated plan to end coal-fired power generation in the country. The government last year said it would close all 84 of its coal-fired power plants by 2038 as the country moves toward cleaner sources of electricity."

https://www.powermag.com/germany-brings-last-new-coal-plant-online/
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Reply #3 - May 24th, 2021 at 4:44pm
 
Bertie wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 10:23am:
This Western urge to self-neuter is stupid and tragic.


What is stupid and tragic is the neoliberal economic system which  takes no account of waste, biodiversity loss, or ecological limits. 

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You cant make steel, aluminium, etc with solar or wind power.


Heard of green hydrogen to replace coking coal in iron furnaces?

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"End coal" just means export all heavy industry and Western self-reliance to China and the third world (incereasingly captured by China).


China has committed to CO2 emissions' peaking by 2030, and carbon neutrality by 2060.

The entire globe has to be involved : Biden won't be able to simply shout "America First", like Trump did.
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Reply #4 - May 24th, 2021 at 5:10pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
Heard of green hydrogen to replace coking coal in iron furnaces?



Yes. A costly process.
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Reply #5 - May 24th, 2021 at 5:16pm
 
lee wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 1:22pm:
Edit: Meanwhile Germany ipened its latest coal plant 12 Months ago.]


https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/uniper-agrees-consider-early-closure-contro...


Which will end up being closed earelier than planned potentially
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #6 - May 24th, 2021 at 5:18pm
 
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #7 - May 24th, 2021 at 5:18pm
 
lee wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 5:10pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
Heard of green hydrogen to replace coking coal in iron furnaces?



Yes. A costly process.



At the moment


Seems like its based on the cost of hydrogen which if it can be brought down, does the same for coking coal. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2021/01/25/we-could-be-making-steel-...
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #8 - May 24th, 2021 at 5:42pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
Seems like its based on the cost of hydrogen which if it can be brought down, does the same for coking coal.


The big IF. Wink
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Reply #9 - May 27th, 2021 at 2:50pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
Bertie wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 10:23am:
This Western urge to self-neuter is stupid and tragic.


What is stupid and tragic is the neoliberal economic system which  takes no account of waste, biodiversity loss, or ecological limits. 

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You cant make steel, aluminium, etc with solar or wind power.


Heard of green hydrogen to replace coking coal in iron furnaces?

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"End coal" just means export all heavy industry and Western self-reliance to China and the third world (incereasingly captured by China).


China has committed to CO2 emissions' peaking by 2030, and carbon neutrality by 2060.

The entire globe has to be involved : Biden won't be able to simply shout "America First", like Trump did.



And you believe the Chinese because....?

Not because of their record of truthfulness, obviously, as there is no such record. Why then?
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Reply #10 - May 29th, 2021 at 1:44pm
 
Bertie wrote on May 27th, 2021 at 2:50pm:
And you believe the Chinese because....?

Not because of their record of truthfulness, obviously, as there is no such record. Why then?


Because the Chinese both set and invariably achieve their 5-year plans, via their unique combination of state planning and private free markets.

Meanwhile the West's increasingly dysfunctional neoliberal "invisible hand" free markets lurch from election to election, with no long-term policy direction. 
Hence the present policy paralysis in Oz re climate change, and even the ALP is split.... and will consequently lose the next federal election.
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Reply #11 - May 29th, 2021 at 1:56pm
 
I believe in climate change it has been going on since the Earth formed and it will continue til the Earth is no more.

Anthropogenic Global Warming on the other hand is a pile of poo, the science is in computer models, tweek one element and you get a different outcome.

Computer models are just that computer models they are not data from the future.
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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery &  prison" Regas Feraeos
 
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Reply #12 - May 29th, 2021 at 2:56pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 29th, 2021 at 1:44pm:
Bertie wrote on May 27th, 2021 at 2:50pm:
And you believe the Chinese because....?

Not because of their record of truthfulness, obviously, as there is no such record. Why then?


Because the Chinese both set and invariably achieve their 5-year plans, via their unique combination of state planning and private free markets.

No they dont, completely wrong. The provincial governors  get told what their GDP is going to be for the next year by their federal government, a target which they must achieve unless they are "disappeared". Hence, duplicate rail networks to nowhere and empty cities, all built  to achieve GDP target regardless of need or usefulness.
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rhino wrote on May 29th, 2021 at 2:56pm:
No they dont, completely wrong. The provincial governors  get told what their GDP is going to be for the next year by their federal government, a target which they must achieve unless they are "disappeared". Hence, duplicate rail networks to nowhere and empty cities, all built  to achieve GDP target regardless of need or usefulness.
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More ideological narrative, not fact.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1755309117300199


"Five-year plans have exerted a profound influence on China’s national economy and social life. They provide guidance for major projects and help fulfill government’s goals. An important objective of five-year plans is guidance for various industries, that is, industrial policies. Compared with the completely free market economy and the completely planned economy, five-year plans reflect a mixture of the two and are a manifestation of China’s pragmatism".



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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2021 at 4:18pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 4:44pm:
Bertie wrote on May 24th, 2021 at 10:23am:
This Western urge to self-neuter is stupid and tragic.


What is stupid and tragic is the neoliberal economic system which  takes no account of waste, biodiversity loss, or ecological limits. 

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You cant make steel, aluminium, etc with solar or wind power.


Heard of green hydrogen to replace coking coal in iron furnaces?

Quote:
"End coal" just means export all heavy industry and Western self-reliance to China and the third world (incereasingly captured by China).


China has committed to CO2 emissions' peaking by 2030, and carbon neutrality by 2060.

The entire globe has to be involved : Biden won't be able to simply shout "America First", like Trump did.



Ok, so Australia will also peak in 2030 and become carbon neutral when China does in 2060.
Good??



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