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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 115408 Melbourne Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #225 - May 20^th, 2021 at 6:40pm cods wrote on May 20^th, 2021 at 6:24pm: is anyone taking any NOTICE OF JOE? he has a few admirers here who are counting on him fixing this overnight!... No one listens to rest home Biden - he's irrelevant.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 115408 Melbourne Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #226 - May 20^th, 2021 at 8:09pm *
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Reply #227 - May 21^st, 2021 at 8:49am

I don't say that I totally agree with this but
at least it's another point of view.

A viewpoint from the Palestinian side:

https://www.salon.com/2021/05/15/israels-big-lie-this-isnt-self-defense--its-a-w...

Israel's big lie: This isn't self defense — it's a war crime, aided and abetted by the U.S.

Almost everything said in the U.S. about Israel's assault on the Palestinians is a lie — because we are implicated.

By Chris Hedges

Published May 15, 2021 4:00PM (UTC)

Nearly all the words and phrases used by the Democrats, Republicans and the talking heads on the media to describe the unrest inside Israel and the heaviest Israeli assault against the Palestinians since the 2014 attacks on Gaza, which lasted 51 days and killed more than 2,200 Palestinians, including 551 children, are a lie. Israel, by employing its military machine against an occupied population that does not have mechanized units, an air force, navy, missiles, heavy artillery and command-and-control, not to mention a U.S. commitment to provide a $38 billion defense aid package for Israel over the next decade, is not exercising "the right to defend itself."

It is carrying out mass murder.
It is a war crime.

Israel has made clear it is ready to destroy and kill as wantonly now as it was in 2014. Israeli defense minister Benny Gantz, who was the chief of staff during the murderous assault on Gaza in 2014, has vowed that if Hamas "does not stop the violence, the strike of 2021 will be harder and more painful than that of 2014." The current attacks have already targeted several residential high-rises including buildings that housed more than a dozen local and international press agencies, government buildings, roads, public facilities, agricultural lands, two schools and a mosque.

And while

I oppose the indiscriminate firing of rockets by Palestinians into Israel, as I oppose suicide bombings, seeing them also as war crimes,

I am acutely aware of a huge disparity between the industrial violence carried out by Israel against innocent Palestinians and the minimal acts of violence capable of being waged by groups such as Hamas.

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Reply #228 - May 21^st, 2021 at 9:08am

Israel and Palestinian militant group Hamas agree to a ceasefire

By Amir Tal and Andrew Carey, CNN

Updated 2209 GMT (0609 HKT) May 20, 2021

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/20/middleeast/israel-palestinian-gaza-conflict-c...

Jerusalem (CNN)Israel and the Palestinian militant group Hamas have agreed to a ceasefire, after more than a week of conflict left hundreds dead, most of them Palestinians. The truce signals an end to the immediate bloodshed, but will likely leave both sides further apart than ever.
Over the past 11 days, Israeli airstrikes killed 232 Palestinians, including 65 children, according to the Hamas-run health ministry there. At least 12 people in Israel, including two children, have been killed by Palestinian militant fire from Gaza, according to the IDF and Israel's emergency service.
A senior Hamas leader told CNN that the truce, under terms brokered by Egypt, would commence at 2am local time on Friday, though an official announcement from the Israeli Prime Minister's Officer said the timing of the ceasefire was yet to be agreed.

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Reply #229 - May 21^st, 2021 at 9:36am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/fragile-truce-between-israel-and-hamas-takes-hold-...

Israeli wounded as mortar shell hits shop

Fragile truce between Israel and Hamas takes hold amid hopes to end fighting

Violence continues until minutes before ceasefire goes into effect at 2 a.m.; Biden offers assistance, sees ‘opportunity’ to move toward peace; Israel and Hamas claim success
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Reply #230 - May 21^st, 2021 at 10:05am

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2021 at 2:42pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 20^th, 2021 at 2:09pm:

"From what i see,
....Israel isn't trying to kill non-combatants [as Hamas and ISLAMIC Jihad in Gaza are seeking to do!]."

Israel is attempting to target bad guys - Hamas is just letting fly at anything Israeli.

If you don't want your kids killed, stay away from Hamas is the message.

Cain't faght a war with one hand tied to your balls...

Watch this.

Retired British Army colonel Richard Kemp says in his entire military career he’s never known of such an “extraordinary” surprise attack triggered by “deception” like the Israelis conducted in Gaza by duping the world.

On Friday the Israel Defence Forces sent out a tweet which said air and ground troops were “currently attacking in the Gaza Strip”.

Shortly after the Israel Defence Forces sent a clarifying statement which said “there are currently no IDF ground troops inside the Gaza Strip”.

“What the Israelis did is that they massed tanks, artillery and infantry on the border with Gaza and gave every indication they were going in,” Mr Kemp told Sky News.

“The tank engines were noisy with dust being kicked up, the world media picked that up and Hamas, of course, picked it up as well.

“It was then thought there was going to be an immediate invasion of Gaza, and, of course, hundreds of Hamas terrorists then went into this, what’s called a metro tunnel network, an underground tunnel network they’ve dug since 2014 which contains weapons, contains command and control facilities, and shelter for the terrorists.

“The IDF then attacked those tunnels with 160 aircraft which dropped … bunker-buster bombs and destroyed large parts of the tunnels.

“When some of the terrorists came out, they then got hit as well from their air.

Mr Kemp said the “absolute body blow” to Hamas would probably be a turning point in the conflict.

“The reality right now, there’s some consideration being given to peace negotiations mediated by the Egyptians which could, I think, possibly produce some kind of result in the next day or so,” he said.

And Hamfistedass walked right into it....

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 89453 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #231 - May 21^st, 2021 at 10:08am So Barbaby's being pilloried for 'lack of respect'... this 'respect' thing seems to be the current coinage of any discussion.. Full Respect For Men NOW! ...just thought I'd throw my hat in the ring here... https://au.news.yahoo.com/i-dont-care-mp-slammed-for-disrespectful-tv-comments-2...
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21492 Gordon Gender:	Re: War starts in Israel Reply #232 - May 22^nd, 2021 at 9:03am https://spectator.us/topic/decline-fall-associated-press-gaza/
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Reply #233 - May 24^th, 2021 at 10:02am

MSir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on May 19^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

Bertie wrote on May 19^th, 2021 at 1:12pm:

Two weeks ago Turkish forces launched a military assault in the Duhok region of Iraqi Kurdistan. Villagers were forced to ‘flee in terror’ from raining bombs. It was only the latest bombardment of the beleaguered Kurds by Turkey, NATO member and Western ally. It did not trend online. There were no noisy protests in London or New York. The Turks weren’t talked about in woke circles as crazed, bloodthirsty killers. Tweeters didn’t dream out loud about Turks burning in hell. The Onion didn’t do any close-to-the-bone satire about how Turkish soldiers just love killing children. No, the Duhok attack passed pretty much without comment.

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That would be right....the Kurds were 'allies' against Sad Sam who massacred them - then were abandoned. Kinda reminds you of the Laotians who sided with Uncle Sam against the Communists, don' it? Still waiting for their air lift out to safety.

Well, the Kurds participated in the Armenian genocide for the Ottoman Empire.

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