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Reply #465 - Feb 22nd, 2025 at 9:25am
 
This was the second London meeting of the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, a unique organisational experiment founded in the belief that “a civilisational moment has arrived” – that the West will sink further into individual unhappiness and loss of conviction or find the keys to restoration and renewal.

ARC is based on the profound truth: politicians alone cannot solve problems of our age because they originate in cultural malaise and blunder. The frustration of the people and the ineptitude of the politicians go to deeper afflictions that must be addressed at source. No institution exists to do the job – hence ARC.

ARC’s chief executive, Baroness Philippa Stroud, sketched the scale of ambition: “Decline is not inevitable. Life can be a glorious adventure. We are at a crossroads when our nations must choose what ideas will animate our public life and philosophy in the years to come.

“The time has come for a better story; one that reconnects us with the original inspiration of our civilisation. We believe we can see families flourish, our economies grow, innovation accelerate, freedom established, a culture of responsibility restored and our civilisation set once again on the pursuit of the true, the good and the beautiful.”

The driving force behind ARC is the recognition that Western soci­eties are increasingly divided and diminished, plagued by a crisis of meaning, weakened by ineffective governments, suffering from a loss of trust in institutions and beset by a fracture between powerful elites and alienated publics. What makes ARC unique is that it seeks to tackle the malaise at the level of culture and is an international movement because the malaise transcends borders.

It is neither a political party nor a religious movement. But under Stroud’s guidance – where she opens the cultural lens wide – it evokes the foundational idea of liberal civilisation: humans made in God’s image.

As a necessity ARC has no prescribed platform and issues no communiques. Its operational idea is that our future has been compromised by abandoning the things that once made us great and that served for decades and centuries as the lights guiding the West’s long succession of dynamic adaptations. But the model has malfunctioned. For young people, being “cool” today often equates with indifferent denigration of their own country’s democracy. The focus of ARC 2025 was the rebuilding agenda, to inspire within and across nations the campaign for civilisation renewal from the local school to the family dinner table to the national parliament. The opponent is secular progressivism.

For ARC, its flawed imprint is everywhere undermining life in the West – the legacy seen in narcissistic individualism; its substitution for religious norms; its suspicion of traditional families; its deployment of state power to advance its values; its compulsion to big government and higher taxes; its attachment to false education theory in schools; its promotion of climate catastrophe; its renewable ideology driving soaring energy prices; its hostility to resources development; its indifference to the collapse in fertility and the coming demographic crisis; its promotion of identity politics in an attack on liberal universalism; and its disdain for national symbols and patriotism.


Paul Kelly

https://www.arcforum.com/

https://www.arcforum.com/research-papers
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Reply #466 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 11:36am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 11:31am:
To repeat: The conservative turn is being made by people who are not, in terms of electoral politics, conservative at all. The conservative turn is only conservative in the context of the academic humanities, not in terms of wider social politics. Indeed, paradoxically, the disciplinary conservative turn belongs to the left.


Yes....in other words, the political Left has abandoned its Marxist/social-democracy roots, and become 'conservative' free-marketeers as required by mainstream neoclassical orthodoxy. 

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Disciplinary conservatism can avoid becoming entangled with those forms of the humanities that take on the role of society’s conscience.

In the face of this paradox, perhaps our first challenge in trying to understand the conservative turn concerns the word “conservative” itself.


See -  instead of seeking an economy which works for all, our loquacious academic is off on a philosophical rant about trying to understand what the word "conservative" means.

While Dutton wants to fund nuclear energy with "taxpayer money", a reversal of 'progressive' and 'conservative' politics, indeed.

But in any case: "it's the economy, stupid" - despite your claims of mono-maniacalism, and refusing to look at the "taxpayer money"  delusion.      

Heaven save us from loquacious academics. 

The rest of his post is a rant which misses the real issues re "society's conscience".
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Reply #467 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 12:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 22nd, 2025 at 9:25am:
ARC (Alliance for Responsible Citizenship) is based on the profound truth: politicians alone cannot solve problems of our age because they originate in cultural malaise and blunder. The frustration of the people and the ineptitude of the politicians go to deeper afflictions that must be addressed at source. No institution exists to do the job – hence ARC.


His error: politicians don't understand that the current social malaise is caused by entrenched dysfunctional  macroeconomic theories re "taxpayer money",  not by 'cultural maislase' aka 'identity politics' which are a diversion from the current macro-eoconomic dysfunction afflicting the democracies.  

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ARC’s chief executive, Baroness Philippa Stroud, sketched the scale of ambition: “Decline is not inevitable. Life can be a glorious adventure. We are at a crossroads when our nations must choose what ideas will animate our public life and philosophy in the years to come.


Wow - inspiring, isn't she....let's read on:

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“The time has come for a better story; one that reconnects us with the original inspiration of our civilisation. We believe we can see families flourish, our economies grow, innovation accelerate, freedom established, a culture of responsibility restored and our civilisation set once again on the pursuit of the true, the good and the beautiful.”


So far -  a motherhood statement, without actual policies to ensure "our economies grow" (eg, to achieve sustainable prosperity for all?), let's read on:   

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The driving force behind ARC is the recognition that Western soci­eties are increasingly divided and diminished, plagued by a crisis of meaning, weakened by ineffective governments, suffering from a loss of trust in institutions and beset by a fracture between powerful elites and alienated publics.


And why is it so? Surely not because the CCP played WTO rules well.....

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What makes ARC unique is that it seeks to tackle the malaise at the level of culture and is an international movement because the malaise transcends borders.


So...the globe has to adopt a new "culture"...I like this lady, let's read on (...but she is still ignoring the current macroeconomic dysfunction): 

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It is neither a political party nor a religious movement. But under Stroud’s guidance – where she opens the cultural lens wide – it evokes the foundational idea of liberal civilisation: humans made in God’s image.


Which God? The genocidal god of Israel, and his 'Chosen People'? 

Ouch....I see problems...

And "liberal civilisation"?

Worked well for a while - for some colonists fleeing the British monarchy -  in the vast "empty" paradise of the US (pity about the natives).

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As a necessity ARC has no prescribed platform and issues no communiques.


Well,  blow me down; after hanging out for some  actual policies,  she tells me there are NONE...hence the resort to silly statements like "the opponent is secular progressivism" and " its compulsion to big government and higher taxes", implying government only needs to get out of the way, because humans will 'naturally co-operate' - the Libertarian wet dream....   

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its promotion of climate catastrophe; its renewable ideology driving soaring energy prices; its hostility to resources development; its indifference to the collapse in fertility and the coming demographic crisis;


Er....population growth is greatest in poverty-stricken communities, leading to war and ecological disaster

[quote] its promotion of identity politics in an attack on liberal universalism; and its disdain for national symbols and patriotism.[/highlight]

Er...cultural renewal must deal with - and overcome 'identity' politics eg differing cultural-pride mythologies represented by national symbols.

Trust Paul Kelly to promote such contradictory nonsense.



 

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Reply #468 - Mar 6th, 2025 at 7:40pm
 
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politicians alone cannot solve problems of our age because they originate in cultural malaise and blunder


Do they?

This is not a result of cultural malaise, except in so far as adversarial multi-party elections in blind-leading-the-blind democracies are a result of 'cultural malaise".

eg

(Dagens.com AU

Trump’s $7 Billion Gamble: Selling Off Government EVs Could Cost Taxpayers Big

Former President Joe Biden made electric vehicles (EVs) a core part of his administration’s climate strategy, investing heavily in electrifying the federal fleet.

Now, Donald Trump is reversing course, ordering the sale of 25,000 government-owned electric cars and dismantling thousands of charging stations.

A Fire Sale at a Loss

The U.S. government’s EV fleet, worth $300 million, is about to flood the market.

But selling that many cars at once will drive prices down, forcing the government to take a 25% loss just to get rid of them. That alone would mean a $225 million hit, according to anonymous government sources cited by Politico.

Then there’s the charging infrastructure.

Trump has ordered thousands of charging stations—installed at government offices and public buildings—to be removed.

This alone is estimated to cost $100 million.

A Bigger Price Tag Than Expected

The real kicker? The U.S. will need to replace those 25,000 vehicles.

Since Trump is phasing out EVs from the government fleet, those replacements will likely be gasoline-powered cars, with an estimated price tag of $700 million.

And that’s not even the biggest financial blow.

According to InsideEVs, a report from consulting firm ICF estimates that keeping the EV fleet would have saved the government $6 billion in fuel and maintenance costs over time. That’s money now wiped off the table.

Who’s Really Paying the Bill?

The total cost of Trump’s EV rollback—over $7 billion—will ultimately fall on taxpayers. But Trump’s administration may try to shift some of the burden elsewhere.

He has already slapped a 25% tariff on vehicles from Canada and Mexico, and hinted at similar tariffs for European automakers unless they move production to the U.S..

Whether that strategy offsets the loss—or just triggers a trade war—remains to be seen.


Who said "democracy is the worst form of government" (well...maybe not the worst...)  before he put his foot in it and said "except for all the rest"...proving he had no vision at all.
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Reply #469 - May 23rd, 2025 at 10:43am
 
Western societies are WEIRD.  That is to say they are Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic (WEIRD), as described by psychologists Joseph Henrich, Steven Heine, and Ara Norenzayan in their seminal work The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous.

Western people are a psychological and cultural outlier, exhibiting traits and behaviors that diverge significantly from those found in most other cultures, particularly those traits in Muslim societies.

WEIRD individuals tend to prioritize individualism over collectivism, analytical reasoning over holistic thinking, and impersonal trust over clan-based loyalty.  These traits manifest in a cultural emphasis on personal achievement, abstract moral principles, and openness to strangers—attributes that are not universal norms.  For example, while many non-WEIRD societies, such as those in the Muslim world, emphasize familial and communal obligations, WEIRD cultures often celebrate individual choice and self-expression. This psychological orientation fosters innovation and economic prosperity but also sets WEIRD populations apart in their approach to social relationships and decision-making.
...


Maybe Western WEIRDness owes something, too, to the distinctive way that the Western mind sees the world, thanks to an intellectual inheritance from three cities of antiquity; Athens, Jerusalem, and Rome.

From Athens, the West inherited Greek philosophy, which introduced the idea that reason can unlock the mysteries of the world and that natural laws govern its workings, accessible through rational inquiry.

From Jerusalem came the Jewish concept of a singular God and the profound idea that each person is created b’tzelem Elohim—in the image of God.  In Judeo-Christian thought, this imbues every individual with inherent worth, forming the foundation of individualism. It also suggests that each person possesses free will, with the capacity to align with or diverge from the divine will.

From Rome, the West received its framework of law, interwoven with echoes of Greek philosophical ideals.

This inheritance from antiquity reconciles reason and religion.  Far from being at odds, the two can coexist: understanding the natural laws that govern the universe does not negate the divine but complements it.  The existence of such laws aligns with the concept of a purposeful intelligent design.  Revelation is not opposed to reason but achieved through it.

Muslim societies have an entirely different way of looking at the world.

..

The number of Muslims in Britain has doubled in 20 years, up from 3 percent of the population in 2001 to more than 6 percent today.  Projections suggest Muslims could make up 13-17% of the population by 2050.

Forty three percent of British Muslims want “the introduction of Sharia law,” while only 22% opposed it, according to a 2016 survey by Policy Exchange.  Support for Sharia was even stronger among Muslims in London (49%), where Muslims now make up 15 percent of the population.

If America had the same proportion of Muslims that Britain now has, with a similar percentage in favor of Sharia law, there would be 9 million Muslims in America wanting Sharia, a number larger than the population of most US states.

A Henry Jackson Society Poll in 2024 found that 32 percent of British Muslims would like to see Sharia law within the next 20 years.
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Reply #470 - May 23rd, 2025 at 10:46am
 
Frank wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 10:43am:
Western societies are WEIRD.  That is to say they are Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic (WEIRD), as described by psychologists Joseph Henrich, Steven Heine, and Ara Norenzayan in their seminal work The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous.

Western people are a psychological and cultural outlier, exhibiting traits and behaviors that diverge significantly from those found in most other cultures, particularly those traits in Muslim societies.

WEIRD individuals tend to prioritize individualism over collectivism, analytical reasoning over holistic thinking, and impersonal trust over clan-based loyalty.  These traits manifest in a cultural emphasis on personal achievement, abstract moral principles, and openness to strangers—attributes that are not universal norms.  For example, while many non-WEIRD societies, such as those in the Muslim world, emphasize familial and communal obligations, WEIRD cultures often celebrate individual choice and self-expression. This psychological orientation fosters innovation and economic prosperity but also sets WEIRD populations apart in their approach to social relationships and decision-making.
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Maybe Western WEIRDness owes something, too, to the distinctive way that the Western mind sees the world, thanks to an intellectual inheritance from three cities of antiquity; Athens, Jerusalem, and Rome.

From Athens, the West inherited Greek philosophy, which introduced the idea that reason can unlock the mysteries of the world and that natural laws govern its workings, accessible through rational inquiry.

From Jerusalem came the Jewish concept of a singular God and the profound idea that each person is created b’tzelem Elohim—in the image of God.  In Judeo-Christian thought, this imbues every individual with inherent worth, forming the foundation of individualism. It also suggests that each person possesses free will, with the capacity to align with or diverge from the divine will.

From Rome, the West received its framework of law, interwoven with echoes of Greek philosophical ideals.

This inheritance from antiquity reconciles reason and religion.  Far from being at odds, the two can coexist: understanding the natural laws that govern the universe does not negate the divine but complements it.  The existence of such laws aligns with the concept of a purposeful intelligent design.  Revelation is not opposed to reason but achieved through it.

Muslim societies have an entirely different way of looking at the world.

..

The number of Muslims in Britain has doubled in 20 years, up from 3 percent of the population in 2001 to more than 6 percent today.  Projections suggest Muslims could make up 13-17% of the population by 2050.

Forty three percent of British Muslims want “the introduction of Sharia law,” while only 22% opposed it, according to a 2016 survey by Policy Exchange.  Support for Sharia was even stronger among Muslims in London (49%), where Muslims now make up 15 percent of the population.

If America had the same proportion of Muslims that Britain now has, with a similar percentage in favor of Sharia law, there would be 9 million Muslims in America wanting Sharia, a number larger than the population of most US states.

A Henry Jackson Society Poll in 2024 found that 32 percent of British Muslims would like to see Sharia law within the next 20 years.


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Australia had 1 million Muslims in 2024. If 40 % of them wants sharia, that is 400,000 people. More than the population of Tasmania or the ACT or Newcastle or Wollongong.
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Reply #471 - May 23rd, 2025 at 7:02pm
 
Frank wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 10:46am:
[quote author=Frank link=1617800791/469#469 date=1747960999]
Western societies are WEIRD.  That is to say they are Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic (WEIRD), as described by psychologists Joseph Henrich, Steven Heine, and Ara Norenzayan in their seminal work The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous.

Western people are a psychological and cultural outlier, exhibiting traits and behaviors that diverge significantly from those found in most other cultures, particularly those traits in Muslim societies.

WEIRD individuals tend to prioritize individualism over collectivism, analytical reasoning over holistic thinking, and impersonal trust over clan-based loyalty.  These traits manifest in a cultural emphasis on personal achievement, abstract moral principles, and openness to strangers—attributes that are not universal norms.  For example, while many non-WEIRD societies, such as those in the Muslim world, emphasize familial and communal obligations, WEIRD cultures often celebrate individual choice and self-expression. This psychological orientation fosters innovation and economic prosperity but also sets WEIRD populations apart in their approach to social relationships and decision-making.
...


Maybe Western WEIRDness owes something, too, to the distinctive way that the Western mind sees the world, thanks to an intellectual inheritance from three cities of antiquity; Athens, Jerusalem, and Rome.

From Athens, the West inherited Greek philosophy, which introduced the idea that reason can unlock the mysteries of the world and that natural laws govern its workings, accessible through rational inquiry.

From Jerusalem came the Jewish concept of a singular God and the profound idea that each person is created b’tzelem Elohim—in the image of God.  In Judeo-Christian thought, this imbues every individual with inherent worth, forming the foundation of individualism. It also suggests that each person possesses free will, with the capacity to align with or diverge from the divine will.

From Rome, the West received its framework of law, interwoven with echoes of Greek philosophical ideals.

This inheritance from antiquity reconciles reason and religion.  Far from being at odds, the two can coexist: understanding the natural laws that govern the universe does not negate the divine but complements it.  The existence of such laws aligns with the concept of a purposeful intelligent design.  Revelation is not opposed to reason but achieved through it.

Muslim societies have an entirely different way of looking at the world.

..

The number of Muslims in Britain has doubled in 20 years, up from 3 percent of the population in 2001 to more than 6 percent today.  Projections suggest Muslims could make up 13-17% of the population by 2050.

Forty three percent of British Muslims want “the introduction of Sharia law,” while only 22% opposed it, according to a 2016 survey by Policy Exchange.  Support for Sharia was even stronger among Muslims in London (49%), where Muslims now make up 15 percent of the population.

If America had the same proportion of Muslims that Britain now has, with a similar percentage in favor of Sharia law, there would be 9 million Muslims in America wanting Sharia, a number larger than the population of most US states.

A Henry Jackson Society Poll in 2024 found that 32 percent of British Muslims would like to see Sharia law within the next 20 years.


Western society/democracies  are imploding because the blind 'individual freedom' ideology is crippling the economies of Western societies, enriching the few.

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Australia had 1 million Muslims in 2024. If 40 % of them wants sharia, that is 400,000 people. More than the population of Tasmania or the ACT or Newcastle or Wollongong.


Islam like most religion is based on mythology.

We need forward looking societies which can enrich everyone, according to ability, in the emerging AI and IT-enhanced economies.  

See professor Keen's articles describing a macro-economy based on first principles, not  phony "free-individuals" competing with oneanother without government oversight to ensure everyone prospers.

Oxfam says we will see the first $trillionaire soon - economic colllapse will follow, as one man commands more resources than half the world's nations.
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Reply #472 - Jun 3rd, 2025 at 11:32am
 
Western Civilization has largely been a force for good.

A prime example is the British Empire. In many places it occupied it:

-raised the standard of living
-developed infrastructure
-promoted education

https://x.com/realAtlasPress/status/1929236476379660730

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