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Reply #45 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:22pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
he seems to think everyone in china is living in some sort of auchwitz but does this look like auschwitz

Was just listening to a couple of foreigners who'd lived in China for many years until recently.

When foreigners visit China, they're left with the impression that everything is free, democratic and modern, if they follow the path they're allowed to walk.

But, like these two warned, it looks 'free and democratic' until... It's not.

See, the Chinese regime keeps a close eye on all foreigners as they experience the hidden delights of Chinese society... Many times they break regime rules, but are often ignored, until, out of the blue, they're arrested... And then the book is thrown at them...

Maybe they took too many pictures of forbidden things, asked too many political questions or was reported for disparaging the regime after one too many local brews.

Then they call out for their democratic rights in terms of legal representation and legal due process... But that is when they realise, to their horror, they're in a totalitarian regime where no one has innate rights and the regime determines their crime and metes out the punishment as a matter of course. Evidence in your defence is irrelevant if it contradicts the regime's assessment. 99% of the time the verdict is guilty and the penalty starts at 6 months to life.

The local Chinese know better than to fall into the obvious regime traps, but they get caught up as well. Like the blogger, Qiu Ziming, who questioned whether only 4 Chinese soldiers died in the conflict with India. He was arrested for 'Spreading rumours and defaming the martyrs', convicted and sentenced to 8 months to 3 years imprisonment. Qiu was ordered to make a public apology on all major media platforms including television platforms.

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Reply #46 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:33pm
 
A couple of years ago an Australian journalist was based in China with his wife and teenage daughter. One day the daughter was picked up out of the blue by Chinese police and accused of some trifling offence.  When her parents went to the police station it was obvious that this was a result of some unflattering pieces the journalist had written for foreign media.

The girl was finally released and the family went straight to the Australian embassy who arranged travel home. The bloke was in no doubt that this was a warning and any further articles the Chinese did not like would result in real problems for his family.

Such is life in the workers paradise.
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Reply #47 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
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Life-President Trump jumps out of bed with a plan to obtain the Capitol.
Comrade Chairman Xi also, to get the Taiwan parliament.
Taiwan has plans. "Legislators from Taiwan's main opposition Kuomintang (KMT) party threw pig guts and exchanged punches with other lawmakers in parliament on Friday as they tried to stop the premier Su Tseng-Chang from taking questions, in a bitter dispute over easing U.S. pork imports."  The premier said he had  a gutful and was going back to bed.


i didnt really understand that post chimera but i dont understand most of norths either.

he seems to think everyone in china is living in some sort of auchwitz but does this look like auschwitz
The servants in the background of that picture dont look too happy, maybe its the 10 cents an hour they are earning.  Rich people in  every country mate, every 3rd world sh1thole has rich people.
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Reply #48 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:38pm
 
He looks like a red guard. Probably a Maoist with a plan.
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Reply #49 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:40pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
One day the daughter was picked up out of the blue by Chinese police and accused of some trifling offence.  

Yes... 'free and democratic' is the regime's veneer for the foreign useful idiots, until it's time to reel them in.
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Reply #50 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:44pm
 
chimera wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:38pm:
He looks like a red guard. Probably a Maoist with a plan.

The red guards have been replaced by the 'little pinks' (we'd call them the 50-cent army) - usually people born around the early 80's to 2000's (our Millennials and Gen Z).
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Reply #51 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:52pm
 
north bemoans the authoritarian nature of president Xi.

imagine this north.

you are the dad running your duaghters 21st birthday party and things get out of hand.

do you take a keen interest in the legal rights of every little hoodlum gatecrasher?

nup, you just wade in and knock a few heads together.

so even at the level of 100 people, you have to be authoritarian.

now imagine , you are put in charge of a crowd of 100,000 to run a footy grand final.

and the crowd are creating a disturbance.

its straight in there with security and off to the carpark with the offendors, no questions asked.

because you havent got time to listen to each little sob story.

youve go a grandfinal to run.

now imagine XI.

the dude bounces out of bed and he has to create a coherent nation with 1.4 billion people.

think about that.

how would you sleep if your daughter organised a party on facebook and you were told
"its on you north to create an orderly party and , by the way, 1.4 billion people will be attending'

you would poop your pants.

i dont know how XI copes with that awesome responsibility.

to create an orderly , functional society with THAY MANY PEOPLE to take care of.

man, i cant hardly look after 200 cows.

XI has 1.4 billion diverse humans getting up to god knows what (way way way more stressful and mischievious then cows).

i gotta take my hat off to him.

has any man ever been handed such a burden.

he is a superman if he can keep his shiit together .
Xi, i salute you
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Reply #52 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 8:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
north bemoans the authoritarian nature of president Xi.

imagine this north.

Imagine this aquascoot, you have a  country cop's teenage son notion of authoritarianism. All you have is 'low-hanging-fruit' analogies of rioting or teen parties getting out of hand and apply that to the only things a totalitarian regime slams its fist over.

It's certain that neither you nor any of your family has experienced a regime where the Kafkaesque arbitrary use of terror over the most innocuous of actions is a normal part of  an apparatchik's everyday life.
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Reply #53 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 8:24pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:34pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:02pm:
chimera wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 6:52pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 5:53pm:
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Life-President Trump jumps out of bed with a plan to obtain the Capitol.
Comrade Chairman Xi also, to get the Taiwan parliament.
Taiwan has plans. "Legislators from Taiwan's main opposition Kuomintang (KMT) party threw pig guts and exchanged punches with other lawmakers in parliament on Friday as they tried to stop the premier Su Tseng-Chang from taking questions, in a bitter dispute over easing U.S. pork imports."  The premier said he had  a gutful and was going back to bed.


i didnt really understand that post chimera but i dont understand most of norths either.

he seems to think everyone in china is living in some sort of auchwitz but does this look like auschwitz
The servants in the background of that picture dont look too happy, maybe its the 10 cents an hour they are earning.  Rich people in  every country mate, every 3rd world sh1thole has rich people.



Clearly a staged propaganda shot.... see the false smiles on the faces of the 'rich women'... but yes, the supine subservience and unwillingness to meet the eye of the 'servitors' speaks volumes...

This picture is so silly it could have come from a 1930's Hollywood epic set in China...

"Ah Numbah One Son.. Charie Chan know secret.... way to Fu Manchu hideout clear to cunning Chinee detective!!  Ha-ha... you follow - I show!"

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Reply #54 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 8:35pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 8:24pm:
Clearly a staged propaganda shot.... see the false smiles on the faces of the 'rich women'... but yes, the supine subservience and unwillingness to meet the eye of the 'servitors' speaks volumes...

This picture is so silly it could have come from a 1930's Hollywood epic set in China...

Not as cringe-worthy as this ...


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Reply #55 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:32pm
 
Well Im convinced then. Im reporting for re education tomorrow.
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Reply #56 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:39pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Well Im convinced then. Im reporting for re education tomorrow.

Make sure you bring plenty money... You pay for your own forced re-education.
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Reply #57 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:41pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:39pm:
rhino wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Well Im convinced then. Im reporting for re education tomorrow.

Make sure you bring plenty money... You pay for your own forced re-education.
And my family pays for the bullets if I fail. Sad
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Reply #58 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:47pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 7:52pm:
north bemoans the authoritarian nature of president Xi.

imagine this north.

you are the dad running your duaghters 21st birthday party and things get out of hand.

do you take a keen interest in the legal rights of every little hoodlum gatecrasher?

nup, you just wade in and knock a few heads together.

so even at the level of 100 people, you have to be authoritarian.

now imagine , you are put in charge of a crowd of 100,000 to run a footy grand final.

and the crowd are creating a disturbance.

its straight in there with security and off to the carpark with the offendors, no questions asked.

because you havent got time to listen to each little sob story.

youve go a grandfinal to run.

now imagine XI.

the dude bounces out of bed and he has to create a coherent nation with 1.4 billion people.

think about that.

how would you sleep if your daughter organised a party on facebook and you were told
"its on you north to create an orderly party and , by the way, 1.4 billion people will be attending'

you would poop your pants.

i dont know how XI copes with that awesome responsibility.

to create an orderly , functional society with THAY MANY PEOPLE to take care of.

man, i cant hardly look after 200 cows.

XI has 1.4 billion diverse humans getting up to god knows what (way way way more stressful and mischievious then cows).

i gotta take my hat off to him.

has any man ever been handed such a burden.

he is a superman if he can keep his shiit together .
Xi, i salute you

You are a farmer, you own cows.

A government, a Xi, does not own the people. That's where your paralells and analogies are off the rails. You have the whole relationship back to front.

A country and its people are not a farm and its lifestock for a Farmer Xi to manage.




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Reply #59 - Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:55pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 14th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
You are a farmer, you own cows.

A government, a Xi, does not own the people. That's where your paralells and analogies are off the rails. You have the whole relationship back to front.

A country and its people are not a farm and its lifestock for a Farmer Xi to manage.

Orwell could have made something of that!
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