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Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm
 
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline



https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57
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Reply #1 - Apr 3rd, 2021 at 1:18am
 
https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57

Another lot of examples of CCP political infantilism... Such as " horrors such as the Atlantic slave trade, colonialism and the Holocaust, as well as the deaths of so many Americans and Europeans from covid-19, should make Western governments ashamed to question China’s record on human rights."

Every nation in history has, in some era, enslaved people including, historically, the Chinese. Slavery was so much a norm (historically speaking) to the point that it even found its way into the Talmud and the New Testament. Plato referred to slaves as a normative practise in Athens.

Does that give a 21st century nation the right to continue the practise?

Does that justify CCP 21st century enslavement of the Chinese people?

As for the virus pandemic... The CCP cover-up puts that squarely at its feet. Will the CCP be paying compensation / restitution for the damage it did? Not likely.

The CCP has stripped the Chinese people of their honour, turning them into psychopathic animals modeled after Mao.
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Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2021 at 1:25am
 
Also,the fact that the CCP is playing 'what about-ism' with slavery, stupidly incriminates them.

The CCP is implying that it does exist in China (and probably on a  scale not confined to only Xinjiang).
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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2021 at 11:16am
 
AiA wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline


https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57


When something is so obvious there is no need for betting.
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Reply #4 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 12:04pm
 
What, in your view, is the biggest misconception about China in the West?

The single biggest misconception is that you have a wicked government and a good people. The Chinese have had 3,000 years for the government and the people to shape each other. The institution in the West that most closely resembles the Chinese system is, in fact, the Sicilian mafia. You have a capo di tutti capi who prevents the other capi from killing each other. Because they’re natural anarchists, they don’t like any form of government. They’re loyal to their families. The emperor is nothing but a necessary evil. The idea of public trust and subsidiarity that’s fundamental to democracy is unknown to the Chinese.


So, all hope is not lost for the West when the Chinese ‘capo di tutti capi’ is educating his offspring in one of America’s Ivy League schools?

Well, the one thing that we’re much better at than the Chinese is innovation. As I mentioned, Huawei is very much dependent on Western employees for innovation. I’m not saying the Chinese can’t innovate. During the Tang dynasty (618 to 906 A.D.), which is considered a golden age of Chinese arts and culture, the Chinese invented the clock, the compass, gunpowder, printing and, virtually, all of the elements of the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. However, the Chinese form of meritocracy, which is based on standardized exams, is the second-best way of running that meritocracy. Albert Einstein, who sat in the Swiss patent office because he couldn’t get a university job …

… and then invented the theory of relativity at his private home …

Right. This is unimaginable in China. If you ask the Chinese what worries them the most, many will say, “How come we have no Nobel prizes?” Eight Chinese have won the Nobel prize in sciences, but they are all Chinese who lived in America.



https://asiatimes.com/2019/10/you-can-never-be-chinas-friend-spengler/

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Reply #5 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 12:14pm
 
Some people say that confrontation is the wrong strategy, that we should become friends. Do the Chinese have the same concept of friendship that we have?

The Chinese, as individuals, have no friends. China, as a country, all the less so.

A peasant somewhere out in the Chinese countryside doesn’t have friends?

It was explained to me by my Chinese colleagues while I worked there that, when you’re in first grade in primary school, you look to your left and right and try to figure out whom you’re going to walk over. In China, you have your family. Otherwise, you have inferiors and superiors. But there are no parallel institutions. There’s no group of people coming together, spontaneously, to do something together as equals. You have a superior and you have inferiors. There’s no concept of political friendship in Aristotle’s sense.

No personal friendships?

People have personal friends, of a sort. But you don’t have the Western idea of political friendship, which goes back to Aristotle. China only has interests; it has no friends. There’s a term that was applied to southern Italy called “amoral familism” where you’re completely amoral with dealings of the world except for your family where you have different standards. That very much characterizes China.
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Reply #6 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 12:45pm
 
Where do you see China’s weak spots that could cause substantial problems for their future?

China has a set of weak spots. First, they’ve got a very rapidly aging population. Like all countries with aging populations, they need to export capital and employ young people and other countries to pay for the pensions of their own people. Germany does this, too. That’s part of the motivation for China’s strategy. They will have an enormous burden supporting the aged in the future. They’re hoping to deal with that through automation, through more efficient health care.

Their biggest problem is the ambitions of their young people. The Chinese created a generation of which 10 million people each year take the gaokao (university) exam. A third of them study engineering. They expect opportunities.

If China loses its edge in technology, if they fall behind the West, if the Communist Party is seen to have failed in competing with the West, I think that will be a significant threat to its power.

You can’t effect that by complaining about human rights in China. China’s violation of human rights is repugnant to us. Of course, we will complain. But that doesn’t really do anything. The Chinese only respect power, and our power is in innovation. If we show that we can out-innovate the Chinese and leave them behind in critical sectors of technology, I think that will undermine the credibility of the present government.



This article, originally published by Switzerland’s Weltwoche, is reprinted with thanks.

https://asiatimes.com/2019/10/you-can-never-be-chinas-friend-spengler/
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Reply #7 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 12:56pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 12:14pm:
Some people say that confrontation is the wrong strategy, that we should become friends. Do the Chinese have the same concept of friendship that we have?

The Chinese, as individuals, have no friends. China, as a country, all the less so.

A peasant somewhere out in the Chinese countryside doesn’t have friends?

It was explained to me by my Chinese colleagues while I worked there that, when you’re in first grade in primary school, you look to your left and right and try to figure out whom you’re going to walk over. In China, you have your family. Otherwise, you have inferiors and superiors. But there are no parallel institutions. There’s no group of people coming together, spontaneously, to do something together as equals. You have a superior and you have inferiors. There’s no concept of political friendship in Aristotle’s sense.

No personal friendships?

You missed the tradition of ancestor worship.

The Chinese show the greatest respect to someone when they're dead and incapable of 'causing arguments and being a nuisance'.
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Reply #8 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 2:22pm
 
athos wrote on Apr 3rd, 2021 at 11:16am:
AiA wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline


https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57


When something is so obvious there is no need for betting.
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Reply #9 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 3:22pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 2:22pm:
athos wrote on Apr 3rd, 2021 at 11:16am:
AiA wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline


https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57


When something is so obvious there is no need for betting.
Smiley
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Western hypocrites want to convince the world to take care of Muslims in China, while killing millions of them in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.
Exactly the same thing happens on this forum when all these yobbo racists like Rhino suddenly cry out for the fate of Muslims even though they were previously  insulted them.
Only idiots can trust Anglo sincerity.
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Reply #10 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 3:27pm
 
What a stupid title "CHINA IS BETTING".
Why do you need to bet if something is so obvious.
Just look at what orgies are happening in the Australian Parliament and a society where it is no longer known who is a man and who is a woman.
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Reply #11 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 3:48pm
 
athos wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 3:22pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 2:22pm:
athos wrote on Apr 3rd, 2021 at 11:16am:
AiA wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline


https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57


When something is so obvious there is no need for betting.
Smiley
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Western hypocrites want to convince the world to take care of Muslims in China, while killing millions of them in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.
Exactly the same thing happens on this forum when all these yobbo racists like Rhino suddenly cry out for the fate of Muslims even though they were previously  insulted them.
Only idiots can trust Anglo sincerity.
Smiley

If you're going to post to an Aussie forum, you're going to have to understand the concept of a 'pisstake'.
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Reply #12 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 3:50pm
 
An awful lot of living Muslims in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq if they were supposedly being killed by Western forces and the United States since 2001. There would be empty cities, free of Muslims there if the Coalition were on the genocidal path against the Middle East.
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Reply #13 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:41pm
 
athos wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 3:22pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 2:22pm:
athos wrote on Apr 3rd, 2021 at 11:16am:
AiA wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline


https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57


When something is so obvious there is no need for betting.
Smiley
iron ore just hit US 200 a tonne.  Cheesy


Western hypocrites want to convince the world to take care of Muslims in China, while killing millions of them in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.
Exactly the same thing happens on this forum when all these yobbo racists like Rhino suddenly cry out for the fate of Muslims even though they were previously  insulted them.
Only idiots can trust Anglo sincerity.
Smiley
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Reply #14 - May 3rd, 2021 at 12:23am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 2:22pm:
athos wrote on Apr 3rd, 2021 at 11:16am:
AiA wrote on Apr 2nd, 2021 at 10:51pm:
Another reason Biden's revitalization project is important

China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline


https://archive.is/etXwh#selection-575.0-575.57


When something is so obvious there is no need for betting.
Smiley


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They're gonna need it to replace their ships if they start a blue..

I noticed the Party started to get really snappy when Biden took the helm... maybe they figure he'll collapse and leave things to the little brown girl... and every good CCPer knows a woman can't handle the job...

They clearly mistake the democratic approach for softness, and actually imagine that the losers in our Parliament doing all that shady stuff are the Australian people.....
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