Bobby. wrote on Oct 10^th, 2024 at 6:03pm:


Exactly.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 8:35am:


The short answer, the story of Doubting Thomas is just another fable from the Bible.

The longer answer, to accept it as a factual account requires an act of blind faith, a demand that is inherently self-defeating. It serves more as a theological narrative aimed at bolstering the early Christian community than as a reliable historical or logical account.

The story champions faith without evidence, a concept in direct conflict with rational inquiry and the principles of scientific thought. Its selective use of evidence, along with the philosophical flaws in elevating blind faith over skepticism, points to its mythological nature rather than its basis in fact.

At its core, this tale is a tool for those who embrace blind faith to convince themselves, and others, that faith, devoid of evidence, is somehow superior to reason, logic, and empirical truth.

For a time, this had value. Much of the Bible reflects humanity’s early attempts to explain the world around them, primitive science, in a sense. Certain ideas, like hygiene, sanitation, quarantine, and even the Sabbath’s rest, were practical and beneficial for early societies.  TO adopt that without question would have been beneficial.

We've seen what happens when those who know little question using ignorance and flawed logic, what experts in a field are saying.  Look at the anti-vax movement.

But we’ve progressed far beyond those days of relying on the Bible for this information. We no longer need these stories to navigate the complexities of our world. If some still find spiritual value in such narratives, that's their choice, and for them, that might be beneficial.

However, in today's age of reason and scientific progress, the story of Doubting Thomas does more harm than good. It undermines critical thinking, privileging belief without evidence in an era where intellectual honesty and rational inquiry are needed more than anything else.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:


What is your point?

I'm not going to sit through a 2 hour stream for nothing.  I don't understand what it could possibly have to do with the topic of this thread...

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:


If it's not important enough for you to bother to summarise and explain why it's on topic, it's clearly not important enough to waste any time on.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 2:49pm:


People have been saying that about human conflict for more than 100 years.  Every time is the end time.

While one day this may indeed come to pass, it will not be due to divine intervention, but rather the inevitable consequence of mankind's own folly.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 4:07pm:


I do enjoy when we are in agreement on a topic

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The vast majority of us are not capable of wielding such power.  That's why I'm thankful for the checks and balances in place, and the few good men over the decades who have made choices, against their training and against their orders, which has helped us avoid complete nuclear destruction.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 9:33am:


You are wasting your time trying to reason with Bobby mate....Someone who proclaims Trump is some kind of Messiah cannot be taken seriously about his reason or Religious beliefs....Proclaiming someone as a false prophet is actually blasphemy and would be met with crusifiction in the Holy Land....Bobby is a sinner!!!



Rational arguments don't usually work on religious people. Otherwise, there wouldn't be religious people.
Doris Egan, House M.D., The Right Stuff, 2007