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Re: Easter mushrooms
Reply #45 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:07pm

rhino wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:00pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 10:58pm:

I only know how to pick out the medicinal ones. Wink

You naughty boy.

Not for a long time. I remember though. They are all over the world if you know where to look. They grow in cow and buffalo poo. Occasionally you would find them in mulch or woodchips. They are big business selling to the tourists in parts of Asia.

Mushrooms or toadstools often inhabit the roots of certain trees.
They have a symbiotic relationship
which helps the mushroom and the tree.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #46 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:09pm Tribal shamans use them in traditional medicine for anxiety and depressive illnesses.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #47 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:14pm rhino wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:09pm: Tribal shamans use them in traditional medicine for anxiety and depressive illnesses. This one was used for religious ceremonies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #48 - Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:38pm There is an old Ozpolitic thread on it: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1295890001
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Re: Easter mushrooms
Reply #49 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:11am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:14pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:09pm:

Tribal shamans use them in traditional medicine for anxiety and depressive illnesses.

This one was used for religious ceremonies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria

https://s3.amazonaws.com/eit-planttoolbox-prod/media/images/Amanita_muscaria_cap...

these can actually be poisonous if dose is not correct, these should not be eaten at all.

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Re: Easter mushrooms
Reply #50 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:12am

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:11am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:14pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:09pm:

Tribal shamans use them in traditional medicine for anxiety and depressive illnesses.

This one was used for religious ceremonies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria

https://s3.amazonaws.com/eit-planttoolbox-prod/media/images/Amanita_muscaria_cap...

these can actually be poisonous if dose is not correct, these should not be eaten at all.

I'm not sure about that -
they look scary but
I heard it depends on the actual mushroom.
Most don't do anything if you fry one
up in butter and eat it.
Maybe cooking them in butter destroys the chemical in them?
Perhaps you have to eat many of them to get any effect?

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #51 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:21pm I went back to the same site and some of the mushrooms had flattened out - which means they are showing their gills for the next stage of their life cycle. They don't look poisonous at all? The one in the middle is poisonous - it is a yellow stainer.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #52 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:45pm All my friends are too scared to eat them - they say that I could die but they look like ordinary field mushrooms. They were about 3 meters from a gum tree on a grass field. Here's a close up. This one is poisonous - it is a yellow stainer.
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Re: Easter mushrooms
Reply #53 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 9:12am:

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 12:11am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:14pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 25^th, 2021 at 11:09pm:

Tribal shamans use them in traditional medicine for anxiety and depressive illnesses.

This one was used for religious ceremonies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria

https://s3.amazonaws.com/eit-planttoolbox-prod/media/images/Amanita_muscaria_cap...

these can actually be poisonous if dose is not correct, these should not be eaten at all.

I'm not sure about that -
they look scary but
I heard it depends on the actual mushroom.
Most don't do anything if you fry one
up in butter and eat it.
Maybe cooking them in butter destroys the chemical in them?
Perhaps you have to eat many of them to get any effect?

[url]https://s3.amazonaws.com/eit-planttoolbox-prod/media/images/Amanita_m
uscaria_cap_H7z9yOfWVkWb.jpg[/url]

They are poisonous, your link even says it. Tribal shamans who use them are extremely knowledgable about preparation and dosage because they have been using them for thousands of years, but go ahead if you want to be put on the liver transplant list.

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Re: Easter mushrooms
Reply #54 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 4:56pm

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

They are poisonous, your link even says it. Tribal shamans who use them are extremely knowledgable about preparation and dosage because they have been using them for thousands of years, but go ahead if you want to be put on the liver transplant list.

Actually it says:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria

Toxicity

a tall red mushroom with a few white spots on the cap
Mature. The white spots may wash off with heavy rainfall.

Amanita muscaria poisoning has occurred in young children and in people who ingested the mushrooms for a hallucinogenic experience.[16][45][46] Occasionally it has been ingested in error, because immature button forms resemble puffballs.[47] The white spots sometimes wash away during heavy rain and the mushrooms then may appear to be the edible A. caesarea.[48]

Amanita muscaria contains several biologically active agents, at least one of which, muscimol, is known to be psychoactive. Ibotenic acid, a neurotoxin, serves as a prodrug to muscimol, with approximately 10–20% converting to muscimol after ingestion. An active dose in adults is approximately 6 mg muscimol or 30 to 60 mg ibotenic acid;[49][50] this is typically about the amount found in one cap of Amanita muscaria.[51] The amount and ratio of chemical compounds per mushroom varies widely from region to region and season to season, which can further confuse the issue. Spring and summer mushrooms have been reported to contain up to 10 times more ibotenic acid and muscimol than autumn fruitings.[45]

A fatal dose has been calculated as 15 caps.[52] Deaths from this fungus A. muscaria have been reported in historical journal articles and newspaper reports,[53][54][55] but with modern medical treatment, fatal poisoning from ingesting this mushroom is extremely rare.[56] Many books list Amanita muscaria as deadly,[57] but according to David Arora, this is an error that implies the mushroom is more toxic than it is.[58] The North American Mycological Association has stated that there were "no reliably documented cases of death from toxins in these mushrooms in the past 100 years".[59]

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Re: Easter mushrooms
Reply #55 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 4:56pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

They are poisonous, your link even says it. Tribal shamans who use them are extremely knowledgable about preparation and dosage because they have been using them for thousands of years, but go ahead if you want to be put on the liver transplant list.

Actually it says:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria

Toxicity

a tall red mushroom with a few white spots on the cap
Mature. The white spots may wash off with heavy rainfall.

Amanita muscaria poisoning has occurred in young children and in people who ingested the mushrooms for a hallucinogenic experience.[16][45][46] Occasionally it has been ingested in error, because immature button forms resemble puffballs.[47] The white spots sometimes wash away during heavy rain and the mushrooms then may appear to be the edible A. caesarea.[48]

Amanita muscaria contains several biologically active agents, at least one of which, muscimol, is known to be psychoactive. Ibotenic acid, a neurotoxin, serves as a prodrug to muscimol, with approximately 10–20% converting to muscimol after ingestion. An active dose in adults is approximately 6 mg muscimol or 30 to 60 mg ibotenic acid;[49][50] this is typically about the amount found in one cap of Amanita muscaria.[51] The amount and ratio of chemical compounds per mushroom varies widely from region to region and season to season, which can further confuse the issue. Spring and summer mushrooms have been reported to contain up to 10 times more ibotenic acid and muscimol than autumn fruitings.[45]

A fatal dose has been calculated as 15 caps.[52] Deaths from this fungus A. muscaria have been reported in historical journal articles and newspaper reports,[53][54][55] but with modern medical treatment, fatal poisoning from ingesting this mushroom is extremely rare.[56] Many books list Amanita muscaria as deadly,[57] but according to David Arora, this is an error that implies the mushroom is more toxic than it is.[58] The North American Mycological Association has stated that there were "no reliably documented cases of death from toxins in these mushrooms in the past 100 years".[59]

so its poisonous. I told you that already.

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #56 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:25pm rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:22pm: so its poisonous. I told you that already. It also implies that if you ate only one mushroom in Autumn then it wouldn't do anything which is exactly what I heard on the grapevine. Apparently they taste very nice - delicious fried in butter and bacon.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #57 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:27pm Eat it then.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #58 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:35pm rhino wrote on Apr 26^th, 2021 at 5:27pm: Eat it then. I didn't find any of those: You sound like the Indian here - LOL
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121982 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Easter mushrooms Reply #59 - Apr 26^th, 2021 at 6:43pm Went out again today - the mushrooms are everywhere. More poisonous yellow stainers.
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