tickleandrose wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 7:50am:

Yes, true. The CCP certainly exploited the inevitable totalitarian trajectory of 'Marxist' communism, now mutated into the monster it has become in the Chinese context. All the world remembers (or can look up) those god-awful giant images of Marx being paraded through Beijing on CCP celebration days.

After Mao, the demand for the peoples' state-enforced worship was arrogated by the CCP from Marx and 'Marxism' to itself, by birthing its own, (self-justifying and now cliched), meme: enter context here 'with Chinese characteristics'.

And it hoodwinked the world for a long time by appearing (superficially) benign until, in 2020, 'dangerous coverups and fatal consequences with Chinese characteristics' exposed the CCP for the lethal and destructive regime that it is and always had been.

Efficiency... Yairs... A word used by all totalitarian states to justify murder and enslavement in pursuit of 'doing things faster'.

Of course a regime could pass itself off as relatively more 'efficient' when that regime has, literally, absolute control over it's oppressed citizens' lives, including enslavement and the ubiquitous threat of their (state-sanctioned) arbitrary arrest, disappearance, torture or murder (often all four in succession).

And, yes, there's no question that democracy, the rule of law and respect for human rights comes at the cost of 'efficiency', particularly when it is qualified as 'efficiency from brutal totalitarian repression'.

The CCP is the incarnation of what all prophets of dystopian futures must have had in mind when they penned their need to warn us all of the consequences of efficiency's apotheosis.

Its confrontation is, and rightly should be, the highest moral obligation of all democracies united.

After all, it's from the ashes of two defeated 20th-century totalitarian regimes that democracy, the rule of law, and respect for human rights have proved themselves to be the greatest ideals humankind will ever actualise.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 9:13am:


Did China under the CCP, ever have a period when the prosecution process [of charged and detained individuals], ever been open to the scrutiny of anyone other than those directly involved [i.e. 'the state', and the accused]  ?


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NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 9:13am:


Agreed.

But the 'democracies' today [their leaders], are almost to a man/woman, entirely focused upon their crass interest in their own electoral popularity, locally.       

They are incompetent at least, and criminally negligent, really, in their wayward dereliction of their real responsibilities of good governance of their nations and their national interests, imo.

Such 'low people', always seem to be attracted to 'political class' careers, in the 'democracies'.


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Proverbs 24:24
He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:
25  But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.


Proverbs 28:15
As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people.


Proverbs 29:2
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2021 at 11:27am:

Perhaps we should put every single transaction with China under the microscope? Most of us know that Chinese whipper snipper, or whatever, which  died only months after purchase was  rubbish.  Australian based importers (you listening Bunnings?) gleefully import and sell Chinese goods they know are inferior rubbish. In fact many Australian retailers request Chinese manufactures to cut costs and bugger the eventual customer. They don’t need to worry about warrantees given local import companies for Chinese goods change hands so often it’s almost impossible to get warrantees honoured.
Why does any of this matter?  Gov’t bodies, such as the Australian military, are silly enough to source strategic materials from China.  The shXt can really hit the fan - for instance...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-24/cape-class-patrol-boat-issues-china-aluminium-austal/100024794 

“The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.”

That quote, attributed to Lenin, was a colourful metaphor for what Marxists call the internal contradictions of capitalism. Belief in the inherent inevitability of the West’s imminent collapse sustained the Soviet Communists right up to the moment in 1989 when their own system proved more self-annihilating than anything capitalism could muster.

But the old maxim has taken on a new and more plausible form today. It was on display last week in the first encounter between US President Joe Biden’s foreign policy team and the modern claimants to Marxism-Leninism’s primacy in the Chinese Communist Party.

It was evident from the moment the two sides sat down that an emboldened Chinese leadership understands that the greatest ideological weapon it now holds in its increasingly existential struggle with America is the gleeful enthusiasm for self-destruction that characterises so much of elite opinion in the US.

When Yang Jiechi, the Communist Party’s foreign-affairs chief, lectured Secretary of State Antony Blinken about America’s human-rights record, its treatment of minorities and its system’s innate inequity, everything he said could have been lifted straight from the pages of the Democratic Party’s presidential election platform, culled from Pulitzer Prize-winning newspaper stories, or jotted down in a student’s notes from lectures delivered daily at America’s top universities.

In fact, it probably was.

The larger truth is that the people who control America’s leading cultural institutions and now its government have been eagerly manufacturing ideological rope for the Chinese hangman, and they’ve stepped up production over the past year.

The intellectual movement to which they subscribe has been the force behind the planned destruction — figuratively and literally — of the principal pillars of America’s authority in the world: the idea that the greatest nation on the planet was founded on universal ideals of human freedom and dignity. Instead, it insists, like those Chinese Communists, that all along this claim to a unique status in the world has been a fraud, mere sloganeering behind which America has been — and remains — a force for repression and exploitation.

How can a nation prevail in a global ideological struggle when its leaders believe its values are intrinsically evil?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/the-wall-street-journal/western-cultur...

Yadda wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 10:51am:

Well, the voters can vote them out... By what mechanism are totalitarians removed from power by the disaffected and the oppressed?

Yadda wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 11:16am:

Are you saying that democracy isn't perfect?

By the way, the US Republican-led conspiracy of election fraud and digital voting fraud are now being ridiculed by those who promoted the idea.

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:09pm:

I think the CCP has copiously proved that 'state controlled capitalism' is a euphemism for enslavement and oppression.