Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 7:48am:


"One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature,” said historian Robert Davis, author of ‘ Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy .’ “But that is not true," he added. In comments which may stoke controversy, Davis claims that white slavery had been minimized or ignored because academics preferred to treat Europeans as evil colonialists rather than as victims.

Corsair activity began to diminish in the latter part of the 17th century, as the more powerful European navies started to force the pirates to cease attacking their shipping. However, it wasn’t until the first years of the 19th century that the United States of America and some European nations began to fight back more fervently against the Barbary pirates.

In the early 19th century Algiers was frequently bombarded by the French, Spanish and Americans. Eventually, after an Anglo-Dutch raid in 1816 on Algiers, the corsairs were forced to agree to terms which included a cessation of the practice of enslaving Christians, although slave trading of non-Europeans was allowed to continue.

Occasional incidents continued to occur until another British raid on Algiers in 1824, and finally a French invasion of Algiers in 1830, which placed it under colonial rule. Tunis was similarly invaded by France in 1881. Tripoli returned to direct Ottoman control in 1835, before finally falling into Italian hands in the 1911 Italo-Turkish War. The slave trade finally ceased on the Barbary coast when European governments passed laws granting emancipation to slaves.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa/white-slaves-barbary-00217...

So the Barbary Corsairs of North Africa were the Hamas of their days. Colonising them was too good for 'em. Tsk, tsk 

Frank wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 4:57pm:


but  but  but


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696


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LONDON, UK — In an incident which threatens to set back empathy and understanding across Great Britain, ten Englishmen were recently stabbed by a harmful stereotype.

British authorities have strongly cautioned citizens against taking away any biases from the incident.

"It's a deuced shame that some chaps might use this stabbing to reinforce their preconceived prejudices against Islam," said UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer. "As the people of Great Britain, we have no excuse whatsoever for forming racist, bigoted stereotypes about Islam based on the Muslim involved in this stabbing. Our hearts go out to those of the religion of peace who will continue to be adversely affected by the ongoing, damaging assumptions this incident may cause, such as being hindered in their attempts to stab other people."

Several British citizens have already been arrested for sharing memes which "reinforce narrow-minded perceptions and groupings." They have been sentenced as dangers to society and have been registered for reeducation camps.

At publishing time, several more gang rape scandals had surfaced, leading British authorities to reiterate their warnings against forming harmful stereotypes of illegal Muslim immigrants.

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If you think having sex with 9 year old children is wrong you might be an Islamophobe

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We should question the residency rights of those who fail to integrate

Take the case of child-rape gangs which have operated in around 50 towns and cities across the country, and which were are mainly composed of Pakistani Muslim men. Katwala’s principle insists that these men are our problem, our responsibility. But, if waging sexual war against one of the most vulnerable communities in the country isn’t an example of failing to join the tribe, I really don’t know what is.

In some instances, the victims of these gangs were subjected to hideous racial and religious abuse along with the worst kind of sexual and physical abuse. As survivor Ella Hill reported:

I was called a “white slag” and “white front bottom” as they beat me.

They made it clear that because I was a non-Muslim, and not a virgin, and because I didn’t dress “modestly”, that they believed I deserved to be “punished”. They said I had to “obey” or be beaten.

The Rochdale ringleader — and proud father of four — Shabir Ahmed said:

We are the supreme race, not these white b******s [pointing to police officers in court] … White people trained those girls to be so much advanced in sex.

Holding a deep-seated, violent ethnic hatred of the native population is, obviously, about the furthest one could be from joining the tribe. Had Pakistani-born, Anglo-Saxon men been doing this to girls in Pakistan — on the basis of white supremacy and Muslim hatred — progressives would be keen to make this point, and I would agree wholeheartedly. We should, therefore, draw the same conclusion regarding Pakistani child-rape gangs.
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A government is meant to work in the interests of the nation’s tribe — including those who have truly joined it — not the tribes who come to its shores seeking to carve out a piece of the country for themselves.

The evils perpetrated against young girls up and down the country were wholly preventable. This fact, along with the harrowing details of these crimes, has led to a deep, pained outpouring of anger. This is the anger one must feel to not be swallowed up by the unbearable experiences of these girls. It is the anger we must feel to ensure that silence or vague platitudes are never again allowed to become the easy way out of addressing this. It is the anger we must feel to regain the humanity that political correctness has stolen from us. To avoid more preventable evils, we must favour the principle of distinguishing between those who are here to truly be part of our tribe, and those who are not.

Powell's argument was essentially that integration is difficult but not impossible. The “every thought and endeavour” of “many thousands” of immigrants was geared towards integration, but this was not the general trend. As he said in his speech:

"Now, at all times, where there are marked physical differences, especially of colour, integration is difficult though, over a period, not impossible … Hitherto it has been force of circumstance and of background which has rendered the very idea of integration inaccessible to the greater part of the immigrant population — that they never conceived or intended such a thing, and that their numbers and physical concentration meant the pressures towards integration which normally bear upon any small minority did not operate.'
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This brings us back, full circle, to Powell, who began his “rivers of blood” speech: “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.”

It is human, deeply human, to worry about one’s group. This is as true for the immigrant as for the native. Yet, a government is meant to work in the interests of the nation’s tribe — including those who have truly joined it — not the tribes who come to its shores seeking to carve out a piece of the country for themselves.

The evils perpetrated against young girls up and down the country were wholly preventable. This fact, along with the harrowing details of these crimes, has led to a deep, pained outpouring of anger. This is the anger one must feel to not be swallowed up by the unbearable experiences of these girls. It is the anger we must feel to ensure that silence or vague platitudes are never again allowed to become the easy way out of addressing this. It is the anger we must feel to regain the humanity that political correctness has stolen from us. To avoid more preventable evils, we must favour the principle of distinguishing between those who are here to truly be part of our tribe, and those who are not.