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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #195 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

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They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...
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Reply #196 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 5:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?


They should both be ignored.

They are both greatest hits of fairy stories.
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Reply #197 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 10:56am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 9:40pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 7:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 7:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 2:34pm:
The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.


An admission, Bobby!  Well done!  You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible.  Now, what are you going to do about it?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

C'mon, you have a Doktorate in Resentment, you should know.


If the New Testament replaced the Old Testament, then their should be no more editions of The Bible containing the Old Testament, Soren.  The Old is still used in Christianity, it has not been replaced.   The Old Testament is still a core part of Christianities' teachings - all of it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The NT could not have happened without the OT. The Covenant with the Jews (Torah) and the other books of the OT attesting to that covenant were extended to all humanity in the NT and that new covenant was placed on a new footing, a new way of relating God to man. Since the non-covenant parts of the OT are mostly the history of the Jews, it remains instructive, especially since the New covenant was made in the name of a Jew. It would be impossible to understand the NT without knowing the OT.


The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are lying, knowingly. Soooo Bbwianesque.  History is not instruction, cockwomble.

Is this 'instructions' for eternal slaughter of the French, ya moron?


This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.



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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #198 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:29pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...



Bollocks, of course. You dont edit the eternal, unchangeable word of Allah.
Every mail order doktor of divining knows that except you, cockwomble.


I am amazed how freely you reveal your stupdity, Bbwian. It almost looks like bravery. It's idiocy paraded.



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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #199 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 10:56am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 9:40pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 7:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 7:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 2:34pm:
The Best Way to Combat Christophobia?

Easy - just ask Christians to redact all the parts of their Bible which promote violence.

You know -
a big black texter mark over all those violent passages.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Sure - we can do that -
most of the OT would be redacted especially Deuteronomy.


An admission, Bobby!  Well done!  You are the first Christian, apart from the Pope to admit there is a problem with the Bible.  Now, what are you going to do about it?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

OLD Testament - NEW Testament.

What do you think the point was to have a NEW Testament, Bbwian?? What has the NEW Testament superseded?

C'mon, you have a Doktorate in Resentment, you should know.


If the New Testament replaced the Old Testament, then their should be no more editions of The Bible containing the Old Testament, Soren.  The Old is still used in Christianity, it has not been replaced.   The Old Testament is still a core part of Christianities' teachings - all of it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The NT could not have happened without the OT. The Covenant with the Jews (Torah) and the other books of the OT attesting to that covenant were extended to all humanity in the NT and that new covenant was placed on a new footing, a new way of relating God to man. Since the non-covenant parts of the OT are mostly the history of the Jews, it remains instructive, especially since the New covenant was made in the name of a Jew. It would be impossible to understand the NT without knowing the OT.


The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are lying, knowingly. Soooo Bbwianesque.  History is not instruction, cockwomble.

Is this 'instructions' for eternal slaughter of the French, ya moron?


This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.


I wasn't aware that Shakespeare wrote the Bible, Soren.  You do understand the difference between holy writ and a play, I hope?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #200 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...


Bollocks, of course. You dont edit the eternal, unchangeable word of Allah.
Every mail order doktor of divining knows that except you, cockwomble.

I am amazed how freely you reveal your stupdity, Bbwian. It almost looks like bravery. It's idiocy paraded.



The Koran and the Bible have been edited heavily through the ages, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #201 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:45pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...


Bollocks, of course. You dont edit the eternal, unchangeable word of Allah.
Every mail order doktor of divining knows that except you, cockwomble.

I am amazed how freely you reveal your stupdity, Bbwian. It almost looks like bravery. It's idiocy paraded.



The Koran and the Bible have been edited heavily through the ages, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Say that to the excitable sons of Mohammed, Bbwian.

Go on.

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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #202 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 8:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:45pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...


Bollocks, of course. You dont edit the eternal, unchangeable word of Allah.
Every mail order doktor of divining knows that except you, cockwomble.

I am amazed how freely you reveal your stupdity, Bbwian. It almost looks like bravery. It's idiocy paraded.


The Koran and the Bible have been edited heavily through the ages, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Say that to the excitable sons of Mohammed, Bbwian.

Go on.


From whom do you think I first learnt the fact from, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #203 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 8:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:45pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 7:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...


Bollocks, of course. You dont edit the eternal, unchangeable word of Allah.
Every mail order doktor of divining knows that except you, cockwomble.

I am amazed how freely you reveal your stupdity, Bbwian. It almost looks like bravery. It's idiocy paraded.


The Koran and the Bible have been edited heavily through the ages, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Say that to the excitable sons of Mohammed, Bbwian.

Go on.


From whom do you think I first learnt the fact from, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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How pompous and preposterous and ludicrous can you be!!!!


AMAZING!!





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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #204 - Oct 19th, 2022 at 8:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 7:33pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 18th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
The best way is by showing that there is absolutely nothing wrong with fearing and opposing Islam.


There is nothing wrong, Soren, with opposing Islam, except you oppose all Islam, good and bad, together.  When you admit that there is good you might be able to figure the bad.  There is good and bad in all religions, including Christianity.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

What are the good bits of Islam that you like, Bbwian?

Gissa list.

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Reply #205 - Oct 20th, 2022 at 2:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...



I agree -
then it's settled - go for it:


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Reply #206 - Oct 20th, 2022 at 5:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 20th, 2022 at 2:32pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities, exactly as the Koran does, Soren.  You are advocating the conduct of atrocities.  You are a hypocrite.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Brian,
should the Koran and the Bible be redacted?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


They both have been edited in the past, there is no reason why they couldn't be again...


I agree -
then it's settled - go for it:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GCwAAOSwQMxdjxqv/s-l500.jpg


You first, Bobby.  Afterall you're a believer so stop quoting the flawed work...  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #207 - Oct 20th, 2022 at 5:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities,

No, it doesn't.
It records history.

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Reply #208 - Oct 21st, 2022 at 8:17am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 20th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities,

No, it doesn't.
It records history.



Not only are they commands from God, the OT also quite clearly describes massacres of innocents as expressions of devotion and faith.

And the city and all that is within it shall be devoted to the Lord for destruction. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she ohid the messengers whom we sent.
Joshua 6:17

But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall devote them to complete destruction
Deuteronomy 20:16–17

Moreover, the Israelites are criticized as disobedient when they didn't carry out genocide (Psalm 106:34–42)
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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #209 - Oct 21st, 2022 at 8:35am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 21st, 2022 at 8:17am:
Frank wrote on Oct 20th, 2022 at 5:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2022 at 3:47pm:
The Old Testament instructs believers to conduct atrocities,

No, it doesn't.
It records history.



Not only are they commands from God, the OT also quite clearly describes massacres of innocents as expressions of devotion and faith.

And the city and all that is within it shall be devoted to the Lord for destruction. Only Rahab the prostitute and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she ohid the messengers whom we sent.
Joshua 6:17

But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall devote them to complete destruction
Deuteronomy 20:16–17

Moreover, the Israelites are criticized as disobedient when they didn't carry out genocide (Psalm 106:34–42)



Fair enough Gandalf -
all that violence should be redacted from the Bible -

now what about the Koran?
any suggestions for  some violent passages to be redacted?
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