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Reply #60 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:54am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:47am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:44am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:40am:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/marvin-hagler-covid-19-vaccine/


His wife came out and explicitly said it wasn't the vaccine, so why would she by lying?


Why would the other guy be lying?




Maybe hes not maybe he misheard. Chinese whispers type of thing. So why would she be lying?


Nobody has suggested that she's lying.

That may be what she genuinely believes.

Did she carry out an autopsy on the body herself, and draw her own conclusions from her medical training, or did a doctor or nurse tell her that her husband didn't die from side effects of the vaccine?

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Reply #61 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am
 

This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.
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Reply #62 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:06am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.




Excellent, you can take this and apply it to Hearns comment.

Seriously dude what is wrong with you. The confirmation bias is so strong
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Reply #63 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:17am
 
I know a man who smokes multiple packs of cigarettes a day who refuses to get the vaccine because "it might kill me" ...
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Reply #64 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:22am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.




Excellent, you can take this and apply it to Hearns comment.

Seriously dude what is wrong with you. The confirmation bias is so strong


I don't know who is right, and I haven't said one way or the other.

You, however, seem to believe (without any evidence) that the vaccine didn't play a part.

Why is that?

And don't get agro and personal - I'm just trying to find the truth here.

So far, we have no way of knowing what the truth is.
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Reply #65 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.




Excellent, you can take this and apply it to Hearns comment.

Seriously dude what is wrong with you. The confirmation bias is so strong


I don't know who is right, and I haven't said one way or the other.

You, however, seem to believe (without any evidence) that the vaccine didn't play a part.

Why is that?

And don't get agro and personal - I'm just trying to find the truth here.

So far, we have no way of knowing what the truth is.



Becase theres no evidence it did play a part. So at the moment I'm holding the default position that it didn't.
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Reply #66 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:25am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.




Excellent, you can take this and apply it to Hearns comment.

Seriously dude what is wrong with you. The confirmation bias is so strong


I don't know who is right, and I haven't said one way or the other.

You, however, seem to believe (without any evidence) that the vaccine didn't play a part.

Why is that?

And don't get agro and personal - I'm just trying to find the truth here.

So far, we have no way of knowing what the truth is.



The problem is here you're often so obtuse about considering a point of view you don't hold it gets frustrating.
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Reply #67 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:26am
 
AiA wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:17am:
I know a man who smokes multiple packs of cigarettes a day who refuses to get the vaccine because "it might kill me" ...



Thats literally the type of stupidity we're dealing with
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Reply #68 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:37am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.




Excellent, you can take this and apply it to Hearns comment.

Seriously dude what is wrong with you. The confirmation bias is so strong


I don't know who is right, and I haven't said one way or the other.

You, however, seem to believe (without any evidence) that the vaccine didn't play a part.

Why is that?

And don't get agro and personal - I'm just trying to find the truth here.

So far, we have no way of knowing what the truth is.



Becase theres no evidence it did play a part. So at the moment I'm holding the default position that it didn't.


How is that the default position?

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Reply #69 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:43am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.


So it’s interesting to read what she wrote... re: the vaccine... she didn’t say he never got the vaccine.

So it’s still in play. Covid vaccine still at scene of death.
If Marvin was ill and near death ... he would not have had the vaccine.... he was independent and well enough to go get the vaccine. Then shortly after....

Oh yes... to die of natural causes.... I was thinking.... define how.
For instance.... if one dies of internal bleeding....is that a natural body reaction cause? Even if a car accident impact caused it?
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Reply #70 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:48am
 
Sophia wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.


So it’s interesting to read what she wrote... re: the vaccine... she didn’t say he never got the vaccine.

So it’s still in play. Covid vaccine still at scene of death.
If Marvin was ill and near death ... he would not have had the vaccine.... he was independent and well enough to go get the vaccine. Then shortly after....

Oh yes... to die of natural causes.... I was thinking.... define how.
For instance.... if one dies of internal bleeding....is that a natural body reaction cause? Even if a car accident impact caused it?


That's right, she didn't say he didn't get the vaccine.

And she didn't say that medical professionals have assured her that he didn't die from side effects of the vaccine.

Natural causes includes things like side effects from vaccines.

This is a very strange story, and I suspect we'll never learn the truth.

Just like how the ex-President's brother died from "natural causes".

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Reply #71 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 12:15pm
 
Sophia wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:43am:
So it’s still in play. Covid vaccine still at scene of death.






At the moment you are several steps away.

1) Don't know if he got the vaccine
2) Don't know beyond natural causes what he died of
3) Can't eve nrelate administration of hypothetical vaccine to death in time scale
4)  Can't even correlate the two events beyond whats in 3.


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Reply #72 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 12:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:48am:
Sophia wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 9:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 8:59am:
This is what she said:

"I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that [knows] how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what [happened]. For sure [it] wasn’t the vaccine that caused his death. My baby left in peace with his [usual] smile and now is not the time to talk nonsense."

It doesn't seem to be based on any medical evidence.

Just what she believes.


So it’s interesting to read what she wrote... re: the vaccine... she didn’t say he never got the vaccine.

So it’s still in play. Covid vaccine still at scene of death.
If Marvin was ill and near death ... he would not have had the vaccine.... he was independent and well enough to go get the vaccine. Then shortly after....

Oh yes... to die of natural causes.... I was thinking.... define how.
For instance.... if one dies of internal bleeding....is that a natural body reaction cause? Even if a car accident impact caused it?


That's right, she didn't say he didn't get the vaccine.

And she didn't say that medical professionals have assured her that he didn't die from side effects of the vaccine.

Natural causes includes things like side effects from vaccines.

This is a very strange story, and I suspect we'll never learn the truth.

Just like how the ex-President's brother died from "natural causes".




Intracerebral haemhorraging as a result of falls and drugs to prevent clots
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Reply #73 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 12:34pm
 
Sorry to possibly throw a spanner in.
But a rise in Blood Clots with the vaccine as a side effect.
Hagler - being a boxer (and yes, I've seen a Boxer die before my eyes from a blood clot, as he got off his stool for the next round), would be highly susceptible to Blood Clotting, especially in the head where a lot of injury has occurred (Like European Soccer players having the highest stat of Dementia later in life, in Europe: heading the ball).
This is ust a personal view and there is no evidence yet to prove that Hagler died from an exact such.
Many things have been proven as false speculation.
But many things have been proven right in speculation.
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Reply #74 - Mar 16th, 2021 at 1:14pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 16th, 2021 at 12:34pm:
I'm not an Anti-Vaxer (except against the common colds/flu Vacs that get thrown around and even get people sacked if they don't take them) and I would take the Vaccine when the right time comes. But having seen so much 'crap' come out of Big Pharma as well, I'm as cautious as Kostya Tzuyu (who only lost to non-threatening losers, not other champions  Wink).


Ditto.


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