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Reply #30 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:55pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

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The use of the vague term "natural causes" is sure to raise suspicion.

Why would it do that? Natural causes has been used for years to describe deaths due to natural causes like heart attack etc.

The only people who would be suspicious here are the types looking for the merest hint of any possibility of even a skerrick of evidence that the vaccines aren't safe.

Not out of vindictiveness or just merely wanting to debate for the sake of argument... but out of caution...
The pros and cons have to be weighed up and all taken into consideration.
I want the vaccine to be truly perfect and safe, but I just have reserves about it... a friend just told me her cousin contacted her from Italy and they are in lockdown again... elderly are dying off in droves again! Sad

FFS!

And why are they in lockdown? And its ok to weigh up the pros and cons. But you need to ensure the correct evidence. E.g. if the vaccine proved fatal so be it. But so far theres no evidence he even had the vaccine yet alone died from it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56382608
The link above shows there are new waves/spikes.
Seems other European countries are suffering the same fate with infection spikes.
So where does the vaccine situation stand in this?
Are they getting it or not???
The winter season has just gone into spring over in Europe.
If any a time for the vax to prove itself.... this is the time!

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #31 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:58pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:43pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

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The use of the vague term "natural causes" is sure to raise suspicion.

Why would it do that? Natural causes has been used for years to describe deaths due to natural causes like heart attack etc.

The only people who would be suspicious here are the types looking for the merest hint of any possibility of even a skerrick of evidence that the vaccines aren't safe.

Not out of vindictiveness or just merely wanting to debate for the sake of argument... but out of caution...
The pros and cons have to be weighed up and all taken into consideration.
I want the vaccine to be truly perfect and safe, but I just have reserves about it... a friend just told me her cousin contacted her from Italy and they are in lockdown again... elderly are dying off in droves again! Sad

FFS!

And why are they in lockdown? And its ok to weigh up the pros and cons. But you need to ensure the correct evidence. E.g. if the vaccine proved fatal so be it. But so far theres no evidence he even had the vaccine yet alone died from it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56382608
The link above shows there are new waves/spikes.
Seems other European countries are suffering the same fate with infection spikes.
So where does the vaccine situation stand in this?
Are they getting it or not???
The winter season has just gone into spring over in Europe.
If any a time for the vax to prove itself.... this is the time!

Italy has had a slow rollout of vaccine delivery, thats why they blocked our supply of it. https://globalnews.ca/news/7695365/italy-covid-vaccines-september-80-percent/ Apparently onl;y 3.8% of the population has had 2 doses so far, well below whats required for herd immunity. Couple that with governments wanting to reopen and its rife for spikes.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #32 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:11pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:40pm:

Not out of vindictiveness or just merely wanting to debate for the sake of argument... but out of caution...
The pros and cons have to be weighed up and all taken into consideration.
I want the vaccine to be truly perfect and safe, but I just have reserves about it... a friend just told me her cousin contacted her from Italy and they are in lockdown again... elderly are dying off in droves again! Sad

FFS!

What you have to assess is whether the risks of getting the vaccine are less than the risks of getting the virus.
All the evidence points to the vaccine being MUCH safer than the virus

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #33 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:14pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:11pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:40pm:

Not out of vindictiveness or just merely wanting to debate for the sake of argument... but out of caution...
The pros and cons have to be weighed up and all taken into consideration.
I want the vaccine to be truly perfect and safe, but I just have reserves about it... a friend just told me her cousin contacted her from Italy and they are in lockdown again... elderly are dying off in droves again! Sad

FFS!

What you have to assess is whether the risks of getting the vaccine are less than the risks of getting the virus.
All the evidence points to the vaccine being MUCH safer than the virus

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #34 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:14pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:11pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:40pm:

Not out of vindictiveness or just merely wanting to debate for the sake of argument... but out of caution...
The pros and cons have to be weighed up and all taken into consideration.
I want the vaccine to be truly perfect and safe, but I just have reserves about it... a friend just told me her cousin contacted her from Italy and they are in lockdown again... elderly are dying off in droves again! Sad

FFS!

What you have to assess is whether the risks of getting the vaccine are less than the risks of getting the virus.
All the evidence points to the vaccine being MUCH safer than the virus

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/068/749/069/original/27ed05...

See my answer to this idiocy elsewhere.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #35 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:18pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:11pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 2:40pm:

Not out of vindictiveness or just merely wanting to debate for the sake of argument... but out of caution...
The pros and cons have to be weighed up and all taken into consideration.
I want the vaccine to be truly perfect and safe, but I just have reserves about it... a friend just told me her cousin contacted her from Italy and they are in lockdown again... elderly are dying off in droves again! Sad

FFS!

What you have to assess is whether the risks of getting the vaccine are less than the risks of getting the virus.
All the evidence points to the vaccine being MUCH safer than the virus

It is good to read reasoned comments.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #36 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:31pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

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The use of the vague term "natural causes" is sure to raise suspicion.

Why would it do that?

Because it's extremely vague.

It's very often the term used when people want to hide the actual cause of death.

For example, when the previous US President said that his brother died of natural causes - he didn't want to say COVID-19.

Why not say pneumonia, or heart disease, or cancer, or whatever?

"Natural causes" is highly suspicious.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #37 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:31pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

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The use of the vague term "natural causes" is sure to raise suspicion.

Why would it do that?

Because it's extremely vague.

It's very often the term used when people want to hide the actual cause of death.

For example, when the previous US President said that his brother died of natural causes - he didn't want to say COVID-19.

Why not say pneumonia, or heart disease, or cancer, or whatever?

"Natural causes" is highly suspicious.

Because at this stage its preliminary

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #38 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:38pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:31pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

.

The use of the vague term "natural causes" is sure to raise suspicion.

Why would it do that?

Because it's extremely vague.

It's very often the term used when people want to hide the actual cause of death.

For example, when the previous US President said that his brother died of natural causes - he didn't want to say COVID-19.

Why not say pneumonia, or heart disease, or cancer, or whatever?

"Natural causes" is highly suspicious.

Because at this stage its preliminary

Be interesting to see if the official cause ever progresses from "natural causes".

I strongly suspect it won't, just like the ex-President's brother.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #39 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:21pm:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/marvin-hagler-death-anti-vaccine-messages-thomas-...

Fellow boxing great Thomas Hearns shared with his followers that Hagler was
"fighting the after effects of the vaccine"
before the former undisputed middleweight ultimately passed away.

How does he know this Bobby?

Dunno yet -
it's a developing story only a few hours old.

So do you think there's a possibility he's talking out of his ass?

No - why would Thomas Hearns lie?

It's a good question, Bobby.

Has anyone come up with an answer yet?

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #40 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:31pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:35pm:

.

The use of the vague term "natural causes" is sure to raise suspicion.

Why would it do that?

Because it's extremely vague.

It's very often the term used when people want to hide the actual cause of death.

For example, when the previous US President said that his brother died of natural causes - he didn't want to say COVID-19.

Why not say pneumonia, or heart disease, or cancer, or whatever?

"Natural causes" is highly suspicious.

Because at this stage its preliminary

Be interesting to see if the official cause ever progresses from "natural causes".

I strongly suspect it won't, just like the ex-President's brother.

Why does it need to be revealed?

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #41 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:21pm:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/marvin-hagler-death-anti-vaccine-messages-thomas-...

Fellow boxing great Thomas Hearns shared with his followers that Hagler was
"fighting the after effects of the vaccine"
before the former undisputed middleweight ultimately passed away.

How does he know this Bobby?

Dunno yet -
it's a developing story only a few hours old.

So do you think there's a possibility he's talking out of his ass?

No - why would Thomas Hearns lie?

It's a good question, Bobby.

Has anyone come up with an answer yet?

Could be an anti-vaxxer, could have misheard, could have CTE.

Again, other than what he's stated theres no evidence that 1) it was due to vaccine, 2) that he had even had the vaccine.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #42 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:21pm:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/marvin-hagler-death-anti-vaccine-messages-thomas-...

Fellow boxing great Thomas Hearns shared with his followers that Hagler was
"fighting the after effects of the vaccine"
before the former undisputed middleweight ultimately passed away.

How does he know this Bobby?

Dunno yet -
it's a developing story only a few hours old.

So do you think there's a possibility he's talking out of his ass?

No - why would Thomas Hearns lie?

It's a good question, Bobby.

Has anyone come up with an answer yet?

Only infowars which is not very reliable:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-marvelous-marvin-hagler-executed-by-covi...

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #43 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:21pm:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/marvin-hagler-death-anti-vaccine-messages-thomas-...

Fellow boxing great Thomas Hearns shared with his followers that Hagler was
"fighting the after effects of the vaccine"
before the former undisputed middleweight ultimately passed away.

How does he know this Bobby?

Dunno yet -
it's a developing story only a few hours old.

So do you think there's a possibility he's talking out of his ass?

No - why would Thomas Hearns lie?

It's a good question, Bobby.

Has anyone come up with an answer yet?

Only infowars which is not very reliable:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-marvelous-marvin-hagler-executed-by-covi...

Not very in this case actually being totally unreliable.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Re: Vaccine kills Marvelous Hagler
Reply #44 - Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:34pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 15^th, 2021 at 1:21pm:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/marvin-hagler-death-anti-vaccine-messages-thomas-...

Fellow boxing great Thomas Hearns shared with his followers that Hagler was
"fighting the after effects of the vaccine"
before the former undisputed middleweight ultimately passed away.

How does he know this Bobby?

Dunno yet -
it's a developing story only a few hours old.

So do you think there's a possibility he's talking out of his ass?

No - why would Thomas Hearns lie?

It's a good question, Bobby.

Has anyone come up with an answer yet?

Only infowars which is not very reliable:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/breaking-marvelous-marvin-hagler-executed-by-covi...

What?

I'm talking about your question: why would Thomas Hearns lie?

So, what reason would he have to lie?

I haven't seen anyone answer that question yet.

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