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Re: AstraZeneca scare
Reply #75 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:49pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:38pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 10:27am:

Both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have had instances of blood clots in a few patients in the US but they really could have been suffering from the condition BEFORE they had the jab, which is more likely.

About 8% of the population experience blood clots during their life.

When over 60,000,000 people are vaccinated, some will get blood clots.
They would anyway.

Some will also have car accidents and some get their hair cut.

Well then -
roll up ya sleeve and take it like a man -

AstraZeneca is the one we will be making right here in Melbourne.

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Re: AstraZeneca scare
Reply #76 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:38pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 10:27am:

Both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have had instances of blood clots in a few patients in the US but they really could have been suffering from the condition BEFORE they had the jab, which is more likely.

About 8% of the population experience blood clots during their life.

When over 60,000,000 people are vaccinated, some will get blood clots.
They would anyway.

Some will also have car accidents and some get their hair cut.

Well then -
roll up ya sleeve and take it like a man -

AstraZeneca is the one we will be making right here in Melbourne.

eek

you mean this guy is making it ??

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112899 Melbourne Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #77 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:02pm aquascoot wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:00pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:49pm: Well then - roll up ya sleeve and take it like a man - AstraZeneca is the one we will be making right here in Melbourne. eek you mean this guy is making it ?? Yep.
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Re: AstraZeneca scare
Reply #78 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:49pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 5:38pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 10:27am:

Both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have had instances of blood clots in a few patients in the US but they really could have been suffering from the condition BEFORE they had the jab, which is more likely.

About 8% of the population experience blood clots during their life.

When over 60,000,000 people are vaccinated, some will get blood clots.
They would anyway.

Some will also have car accidents and some get their hair cut.

Well then -
roll up ya sleeve and take it like a man -

AstraZeneca is the one we will be making right here in Melbourne.

Australia is very technologically advanced, well regulated and well respected in the medical world for our size.

There are few countries in the world that COULD make a vaccine.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19356 Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #79 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:11pm Interestingly Bangladesh, cases 560K, 52 deaths. Ivermectin the drug of choice. Bangladesh: Ivermectin shows promise in treating virus https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/bangladesh-ivermectin-shows-promise-in-tre... About 1100 people per sq Km
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Reply #80 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:58pm

ccording to the study, COVID-19 patients who voluntarily took part in the clinical trial and took only invermectin for five days were 77% more likely to have early viral clearance after 14 days compared to those who received a combination of invermectin and doxycycline (61%) and those who took a placebo (39%).

The study also showed that on the third day, 18% of the patients in the group treated with ivermectin alone began to show viral clearance compared to 3% each for those on iverme

This paragrpah doesnt make sense.

And I will wait til the article gets published

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #81 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 6:58pm Also that ws 3 months ago
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Reply #82 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:00pm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7709596/

Oh look they did publish

Although the study sample was too small (n = 72) to draw any solid conclusions, the results provide evidence of the potential benefit of early intervention with the drug ivermectin for the treatment of adult patients diagnosed with mild COVID-19. First, early intervention promoted faster viral clearance during disease onset, which might have prevented significant immune system involvement and hastened the recovery.

Not holding my breath lee

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19356 Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #83 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:09pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:00pm: Not holding my breath lee Well that's good. We wouldn't want you to expire. BUT only 52 deaths. out of 560K. About 0.01%.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #84 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:10pm Agan the peer reviewed study isnt as strong a evidence as you think
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19356 Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #85 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:12pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:10pm: Agan the peer reviewed study isnt as strong a evidence as you think See that's what gets you into strife. NOWHERE did I say it was strong. You make things up to suit yourself. But Randomized, Double Blind Test on patients with symptoms.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19356 Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #86 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:26pm Other studies - "Use of ivermectin in the treatment of Covid-19: A pilot trial" Dated Mar 2021 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7942165/ "The broad spectrum host-directed agent ivermectin as an antiviral for SARS-CoV-2 ? " published Jan 21 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33341233/
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #87 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:27pm Still small scale studies. And the vaccine is coming in
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19356 Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #88 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:30pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:27pm: Still small scale studies. And the vaccine is coming in Yes small scale studies. But you don't need to have large numbers. Except perhaps where the results are inconclusive.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112899 Melbourne Gender:	Re: AstraZeneca scare Reply #89 - Mar 16^th, 2021 at 7:33pm
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