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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #315 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:40am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:37pm:

Basically they don't want people holdiong out for the Pfizer vaccine

What about the people in Queensland who got a "double dose"?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/queensland-vaccine-over...

Shocking news -
that doctor should be arrested now.

Not really the doctor's fault.

He/she wasn't trained to administer Covid vaccines.

Australian doctors haven't had to deal with multi-dose vials before, and they need training in how to handle them.

This doctor wasn't given that training.

The vaccination process is being rushed and, as a result, mistakes like these are occurring.

It's a perfect example of why I will be waiting for quite some months before I let them come near me with the needle.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab Reply #316 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:43am https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/californian-covid-variant-is-th... The perfect example of why journos should pause before reporting on science.
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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #317 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:54am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:36am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:31am:

Neferti wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:33pm:

Health providers and doctors will be banned from revealing which COVID-19 vaccine they offer as Australia prepares to roll out two jabs at the same time.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has revealed its guidelines for advertising the vaccine, barring health providers from using their own ads to spruik the jab.

It also prohibits GPs, pharmacies and health centres from advertising which vaccine they offer.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/tga-bans-pharmacies-fro...

What about the principle of informed consent?

https://www.emedicinehealth.com/informed_consent/article_em.htm

What Are the 4 Principles of Informed Consent?

There are 4 principles of informed consent:

You must have the capacity (or ability) to make the decision.
The medical provider must disclose information on the treatment, test, or procedure in question, including the expected benefits and risks, and the likelihood (or probability) that the benefits and risks will occur.
You must comprehend the relevant information.
You must voluntarily grant consent, without coercion or duress.

IN that article where do you see them denying any of that?

They're only not saying what the brand is.

What if you have suspicions about one of the brands?
We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #319 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:37pm:

Basically they don't want people holdiong out for the Pfizer vaccine

What about the people in Queensland who got a "double dose"?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/queensland-vaccine-over...

Shocking news -
that doctor should be arrested now.

Not really the doctor's fault.

He/she wasn't trained to administer Covid vaccines.

Australian doctors haven't had to deal with multi-dose vials before, and they need training in how to handle them.

This doctor wasn't given that training.

The vaccination process is being rushed and, as a result, mistakes like these are occurring.

It's a perfect example of why I will be waiting for quite some months before I let them come near me with the needle.

But that doctor had not done any training on the new vax -
he no right to be giving that to anyone.

Arrest him.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab Reply #320 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:07am Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:54am: What if you have suspicions about one of the brands? We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't. Whats your suspicions on it based on it being mRNA. Dazzle me with your knowledge
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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #321 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:14am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

What if you have suspicions about one of the brands?
We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

Whats your suspicions on it based on it being mRNA. Dazzle me with your knowledge

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #322 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:15am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

What if you have suspicions about one of the brands?
We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

Whats your suspicions on it based on it being mRNA. Dazzle me with your knowledge

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

Dazzle me with YOUR knowledge, not can you cut and paste a link. And again what are your suspicions of this based on it being mRNA

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #323 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:23am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

What if you have suspicions about one of the brands?
We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

Whats your suspicions on it based on it being mRNA. Dazzle me with your knowledge

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

Dazzle me with YOUR knowledge, not can you cut and paste a link. And again what are your suspicions of this based on it being mRNA

You are asking for a a person who
is unqualified in medicine to
give an opinion or some kind of medical advice.
You're a fool to even ask.

forgiven

namaste

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #324 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:26am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:23am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:14am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:54am:

What if you have suspicions about one of the brands?
We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

Whats your suspicions on it based on it being mRNA. Dazzle me with your knowledge

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

Dazzle me with YOUR knowledge, not can you cut and paste a link. And again what are your suspicions of this based on it being mRNA

You are asking for a a person who
is unqualified in medicine to
give an opinion or some kind of medical advice.
You're a fool to even ask.

forgiven

namaste

An excellent point, you are completely unqualified yet you're throwing all this unscientific crap like you are qualified.

You said the following statement

We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

What is it about the mRNA one you have a problem with

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #325 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:34am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:37pm:

Basically they don't want people holdiong out for the Pfizer vaccine

What about the people in Queensland who got a "double dose"?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/queensland-vaccine-over...

Shocking news -
that doctor should be arrested now.

Not really the doctor's fault.

He/she wasn't trained to administer Covid vaccines.

Australian doctors haven't had to deal with multi-dose vials before, and they need training in how to handle them.

This doctor wasn't given that training.

The vaccination process is being rushed and, as a result, mistakes like these are occurring.

It's a perfect example of why I will be waiting for quite some months before I let them come near me with the needle.

But that doctor had not done any training on the new vax -
he no right to be giving that to anyone.

Arrest him.

On what charge?

He/she was instructed by their employer to do something they weren't trained to do.

It's the employer's fault - not the employee.

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #326 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:56am:

But that doctor had not done any training on the new vax -
he no right to be giving that to anyone.

Arrest him.

On what charge?

He/she was instructed by their employer to do something they weren't trained to do.

It's the employer's fault - not the employee.

Then -
arrest his employer and arrest the doctor.

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #327 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 8:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:49pm:

Neferti wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:46pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 3:37pm:

Basically they don't want people holdiong out for the Pfizer vaccine

What about the people in Queensland who got a "double dose"?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/queensland-vaccine-over...

Shocking news -
that doctor should be arrested now.

Not really the doctor's fault.

He/she wasn't trained to administer Covid vaccines.

Australian doctors haven't had to deal with multi-dose vials before, and they need training in how to handle them.

This doctor wasn't given that training.

The vaccination process is being rushed and, as a result, mistakes like these are occurring.

It's a perfect example of why I will be waiting for quite some months before I let them come near me with the needle.

But that doctor had not done any training on the new vax -
he no right to be giving that to anyone.

Arrest him.

On what charge?

He/she was instructed by their employer to do something they weren't trained to do.

It's the employer's fault - not the employee.

Well, the Doctor has been "stood down".

Quote:

The doctor stood down for giving two Queensland people an overdose of the COVID-19 vaccine was not adequately trained in administering the drug, it has been revealed.

Speaking to parliament on Wednesday, Health Minister Greg Hunt said the doctor had not completed the training as part of the immunisation rollout.

“On further investigation, Healthcare Australia has now advised the doctor had not completed the required training,” he told the House of Representatives.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/queensland-vaccine-overdosing-inc...

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #328 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:52am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:26am:

An excellent point, you are completely unqualified yet you're throwing all this unscientific crap like you are qualified.

You said the following statement

We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

What is it about the mRNA one you have a problem with

Read back through this and other threads e.g..

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 11:06am:

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-02-19-experimental-mrna-vaccines-cause-600-new-c...

Experimental mRNA vaccines cause 600 new cases of eye disorders
and leave 5 people blind,
according to UK Government

02/19/2021 / By Lance D Johnson / Comments

The first dose of the experimental Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has been introduced into the arms of 5.4 million citizens, with 500,000 of these people receiving a second dose. Up until January 24, there have been nearly 50,000 reports of vaccine injury for this specific vaccine, including the sudden death of one hundred seven UK citizens.
A minimum of 1 in 333 people suffer from serious vaccine adverse events in the UK

Another 1.5 million doses of the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine have been received in the arms of UK citizens, yielding another 21,032 adverse events. These adverse events were recorded up until January 24, 2021, in the Medicines and Health Products Regulatory Agency‘s Yellow Card Scheme, and does not include all relevant, up-to-date injuries. The current rate of vaccine injury (being reported) is 1 in 333 people. This rate of vaccine injury is likely much greater because people are often hesitant and/or ashamed to report vaccine injury; many people see vaccination as 100 percent safe and effective solution and don’t dare to question it. Many doctors refuse to accept that vaccine injury is real.

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Re: Coronavirus - Are you going to get the jab
Reply #329 - Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:54am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 25^th, 2021 at 9:26am:

An excellent point, you are completely unqualified yet you're throwing all this unscientific crap like you are qualified.

You said the following statement

We could for instance have one type that is mRNA and another which isn't.

What is it about the mRNA one you have a problem with

Read back through this and other threads e.g..

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2021 at 11:06am:

https://www.newstarget.com/2021-02-19-experimental-mrna-vaccines-cause-600-new-c...

Experimental mRNA vaccines cause 600 new cases of eye disorders
and leave 5 people blind,
according to UK Government

02/19/2021 / By Lance D Johnson / Comments

The first dose of the experimental Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has been introduced into the arms of 5.4 million citizens, with 500,000 of these people receiving a second dose. Up until January 24, there have been nearly 50,000 reports of vaccine injury for this specific vaccine, including the sudden death of one hundred seven UK citizens.
A minimum of 1 in 333 people suffer from serious vaccine adverse events in the UK

Another 1.5 million doses of the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine have been received in the arms of UK citizens, yielding another 21,032 adverse events. These adverse events were recorded up until January 24, 2021, in the Medicines and Health Products Regulatory Agency‘s Yellow Card Scheme, and does not include all relevant, up-to-date injuries. The current rate of vaccine injury (being reported) is 1 in 333 people. This rate of vaccine injury is likely much greater because people are often hesitant and/or ashamed to report vaccine injury; many people see vaccination as 100 percent safe and effective solution and don’t dare to question it. Many doctors refuse to accept that vaccine injury is real.

And look back at my explanations of how the statement "Experimental mRNA vaccines cause 600 new cases of eye disorders
and leave 5 people blind,
according to UK Government"

is totally wrong.

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