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"People don't want to hear anything against Trump.
Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am
 
Former President Donald Trump has actually gained -- not lost -- political clout since leaving office, a political observer asserted Friday.

Politico reporter Tara Palmeri's observation runs contrary to the assumptions of many in the Washington D.C. establishment and the mainstream media.

"People don't want to hear anything against Trump," Palmeri said during an appearance on MSNBC. "Actually, the more he stays out of the media, the more that he becomes this martyr, this looming figure over the GOP."

In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" that the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.

She drew the conclusion after speaking with locals in the Cowboy State about Cheney’s vote to impeach Trump while covering an anti-Cheney rally led by Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla.

"I actually went out of my way to try to find someone who would defend her and I really could not," Palmeri told MSNBC. "She didn't have that much name recognition, considering she's a Cheney. ... I mean, I said her name at a hardware store, and someone shouted a threat."

The "overwhelming" consensus that Palmeri heard from voters was that Cheney's vote for impeachment was "not a vote for Wyoming" and "therefore she has to go."

She then described an apparent disconnect between what's perceived as truth in D.C. and what’s perceived as truth in Cheyenne. Palmeri mentioned locals not wearing masks, expressing distrust of the coronavirus vaccine, claiming both that the number of reported deaths from the pandemic were "inflated," believing the 2020 presidential election wasn't legitimate, and that the Jan. 6 riot on Capitol Hill was "staged" by Antifa.

"I hate that they're so distrustful," Palmeri said. "It feels like another world but that's what's on the ground and I don't think that we can ignore it and I'm really happy that I went out there and saw it because I think that there's a huge disconnect between Washington and the rest of the country."

In Wyoming, she added, "A lot of people said they aren't really Republicans, that, like, they're for Trump. That's it ... I think the base is getting stronger, truly. I think an impeachment would make him even more powerful — a conviction, is what I mean."

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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 6:04am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:
"Actually, the more he stays out of the media, the more that he becomes this martyr, this looming figure over the GOP."

Yes. There always was going to be the problem of metaphoric martyrdom.

That will have to be worn down over the next 4 years.

All 'martyrs' need essential elements to perpetuate the myth of their 'martyrdom', among them being: mystique, and a perceived sense of unjustified persecution in defence of a noble cause.

In short, Trump needs to achieve and maintain a secular apotheosis.

Fortunately for Trump - being as stupid and impulsive as he has always been (cue New Yorkers seeing through him for the joke that he is - they're more used to him than the rest of America and the world) - means that deplatforming him has afforded him the 'mystique' arising from silence. Remember his birther bullshit (which he repudiated once in office)? Luckily for him the US has more than its fair share of halfwits who bought that crap; which gave him a platform in the first place.

His perceived sense of unjustified persecution can only be claimed if he is persecuted by devices such as trial by media and excessive vilification by those governing. This is something the Democrats will need to check themselves on. They need to ensure he condemns himself by being seen for the rambling old halfwit and criminal that he is (or has a predilection towards).

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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 7:12am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:


.....In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" than the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.


....I think that there's a huge disconnect between Washington and the rest of the country."





YAY !

The truth is, despite the fact that Trump has some character flaws,
TRUMP WAS GOOD FOR AMERICA,
AND TRUMP WAS GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

And that was and is the true judgement of Trump's worth [as president], by a majority of the American people.
....the false election figures not withstanding.



Biden and co., should take notice of those facts.

The core of the American people, love Donald J Trump, and they loved the moment to moment 'immediacy' of his presidency.


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"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

- Abraham Lincoln



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Reply #3 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 7:53am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 7:12am:
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:


.....In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" than the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.


....I think that there's a huge disconnect between Washington and the rest of the country."





YAY !

The truth is, despite the fact that Trump has some character flaws,
TRUMP WAS GOOD FOR AMERICA,
AND TRUMP WAS GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

And that was and is the true judgement of Trump's worth [as president], by a majority of the American people.
....the false election figures not withstanding.



Biden and co., should take notice of those facts.

The core of the American people, love Donald J Trump, and they loved the moment to moment 'immediacy' of his presidency.


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"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

- Abraham Lincoln





It certainly seems that there is a gullible cohort of people "out there" that Trump and his enablers are able to "fool all of the time".

Some of those people still fervently believe that the election was "stolen".  Roll Eyes

Go figure.
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Reply #4 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:09am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:
In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" that the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.



that sort of stupidity is the reason why republicans will be afraid to find trump guilty at his impeachment hearing. Republican senators will be afraid of losing their nominations the next time around and so most will ignore the attempted coup out of fear of losing their position at the trough.
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Reply #5 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 9:02am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:09am:
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:
In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" that the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.



that sort of stupidity is the reason why republicans will be afraid to find trump guilty at his impeachment hearing. Republican senators will be afraid of losing their nominations the next time around and so most will ignore the attempted coup out of fear of losing their position at the trough.

There's also the problem that certain republican senators and representatives could be implicated by witnesses called to testify at a senate trial.

Then there's the sh!t that Trump will have on some of them which he could make public.

Collaborating with Trump was always going to be a 'dance with the devil'... And if the music stops...
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Reply #6 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 9:51am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:09am:
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:
In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" that the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.



that sort of stupidity is the reason why republicans will be afraid to find trump guilty at his impeachment hearing. Republican senators will be afraid of losing their nominations the next time around and so most will ignore the attempted coup out of fear of losing their position at the trough.

There was no 'attempted coup' , Chewbacca, ushered in by the guards, taking a selfie in the Speaker's chair is no coup, two planks.
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Reply #7 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:09am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 9:51am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 8:09am:
Mortdooley wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:29am:
In fact, there is now a "crusade" being waged on behalf of the former president in places like Wyoming, where Trump is "way more popular" that the state's high-ranking congressional Republican, U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney, Palmeri said.



that sort of stupidity is the reason why republicans will be afraid to find trump guilty at his impeachment hearing. Republican senators will be afraid of losing their nominations the next time around and so most will ignore the attempted coup out of fear of losing their position at the trough.

There was no 'attempted coup' , Chewbacca, ushered in by the guards, taking a selfie in the Speaker's chair is no coup, two planks.


Good point, old boy. There was no attempted coup.

Protesters merely wanted to put a bit of a scare into Mike Pence, so he'd delay debate in the Congress for two hours. It was no coup.

A bit of a robust debate, that's all. They were never going to LYNCH him.

Someone should tell Mike Pence, no? He's currently on the run to avoid being LYNCHED. Don't panic, Mike, it's okay!

I'm sure Mr Trump will let him stay in Trump Tower, no? When he starts talking to him again, I mean. No, it was no coup attempt.

I believe the correct term is procedural motion.

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The left can go to hell
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:09am:
I believe the correct term is procedural motion.


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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:21am:
The left can go to hell


Extreme left or extreme right are a problem for those of us who are not rusted on dickheads who cannot be reasoned with....When you take an extreme position there is no middle ground to find agreement....You and people like you are the problem not the solution!!!

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Reply #11 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:47am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:34am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:21am:
The left can go to hell


Extreme left or extreme right are a problem for those of us who are not rusted on dickheads who cannot be reasoned with....When you take an extreme position there is no middle ground to find agreement....You and people like you are the problem not the solution!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Extremes stand on opposites ends of an arc.... Close enough to link arms.
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Reply #12 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:16pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:47am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:34am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:21am:
The left can go to hell


Extreme left or extreme right are a problem for those of us who are not rusted on dickheads who cannot be reasoned with....When you take an extreme position there is no middle ground to find agreement....You and people like you are the problem not the solution!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Extremes stand on opposites ends of an arc.... Close enough to link arms...


...however unlikely they are to do so...
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Reply #13 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:22pm
 
Most westerners (outside of Europe) cannot recognise a dangerous populist demagogue from within.

Nations like Australia, new Zealand, Canada, even the UK are either too disinterested in politics or the nation is socially and politically so stable that dangerous populist demagogues can't get a foothold.

The US does have them from time to time, but their fate is often determined by the resilience of the constitution.

Enter George Wallace (although he was shot and kept in power ironically by the black vote after he recanted his segregationist drivel).

There was FDR, (not so dangerous) but who dabbled in a form of National Socialism but was brought to heel by the US Supreme Court.

Johnson squandered all his populism on escalating the Vietnam war and was ultimately reviled for it.

In short the US political process (its backbone being the constitution) has an antidote for dangerous populist demagogues... After all it was conceived to prevent dangerous monarchies from re-establishing themselves in the US.

But ask certain Europeans or their descendants about them and you'll get a very lucid perspective on just how dangerous they are, where the people or their nations' political process is susceptible to them or can be easily manipulated by them.
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Reply #14 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:23pm
 
Mix_Master wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:16pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:47am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:34am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2021 at 11:21am:
The left can go to hell


Extreme left or extreme right are a problem for those of us who are not rusted on dickheads who cannot be reasoned with....When you take an extreme position there is no middle ground to find agreement....You and people like you are the problem not the solution!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Extremes stand on opposites ends of an arc.... Close enough to link arms...


...however unlikely they are to do so...

Really? National Socialism and Stalinism didn't 'link arms' at one time?
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