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Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:49pm
 
Not usuallly:

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Record-breaking rains triggered so much new growth across Australia that the continent turned into a giant green carbon sink to rival tropical rainforests including the Amazon, our new research shows. . .


https://theconversation.com/record-rains-made-australia-a-giant-green-global-car...

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Reply #1 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:19pm
 
2014?????
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Reply #2 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:21pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:19pm:
2014?????



https://theconversation.com/record-rains-made-australia-a-giant-green-global-car
bon-sink-26646


Yes - that link says :
May 22, 2014 6.22am AEST

It's Monk - he's very light headed these days.  Grin
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Reply #3 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:43pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:49pm:
lee lies.

From your reference -

"Almost 60% of the higher than normal carbon uptake that year, or 840 million tons, happened in Australia. That was due to a combination of factors, including geography and a run of very dry years, followed by record-breaking rains in 2010 and 2011."

"Unexpectedly, the largest carbon uptake occurred in the semi-arid landscapes of Australia, Southern Africa and South America."

And we were  only talking forests and grasslands. Smiley

BTW - Australia's emissions were about 392 Mt CO2e in 2011.


But of course you could read Barrett DJ (2002) where he estimated 700Mt CO2
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Reply #4 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 6:50pm
 
This has been moved from Relationships
yet Monk is banned here.
What should I do?
I suppose if Monk doesn't insult anyone I'll let him post on this topic?
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Reply #5 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 7:44pm
 
From Polter et al 2014

"Surprisingly,we find that the global carbon sink anomaly was  driven by growth of semi-arid vegetation in the Southern Hemisphere,with almost 60 per cent of carbon uptake attributed to Australian eco-systems, where prevalent La Nina conditions caused up to six consecutive seasons of increased precipitation."

"Although 2011 precipitation explained most of the NEE increase in Aus-tralia (a 0.56 Pg C yr21contribution), the climate memory effect also explained 0.21 Pg C of the 2011 Australian sink because of high precipitation in 2010 that recharged soil moisture and plant carbohydrate reserves to the benefit of NPP in 2011."

So over two years not one.  And the use of models.

doi:10.1038/nature13376

"In Australia, for example, compared with the 2003–2012average, LPJ simulated a 45% increase in NPP for 2011, from an average of 1.75 to 2.54 Pg C yr21, but only a 9% increase in Rh(from 1.48 to1.61 Pg C yr21). Moreover, wetter conditions decreased modelled fire-emissions by 29% (from 0.13 to 0.09 Pg C yr21) yielding a net 0.84 Pg C2011 sink.

Note they also use C not CO2.

So what do we have -

An average 2003-2012 of 1.7Pg C/year. That's 1.7 gigatonne of carbon.
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Reply #6 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 10:08pm
 
BTW - "Record-breaking rains triggered so much new growth across Australia that the continent turned into a giant green carbon sink to rival tropical rainforests including the Amazon, our new research shows."

Nope that doesn't say it only became a carbon sink because of the rain. It turned it a giant one.

"It set a new record for a land-based carbon sink since high-resolution records began in 1958, in a remarkable example of ecosystems working to stabilise the Earth’s climate."

That was atmospheric CO2,

"the largest reported residual land carbon sink since measurements of atmospheric CO2 began in 1958"

Atmospheric CO2 can't tell how much is sequestered.
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Reply #7 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 9:11am
 
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Australia's eco system sequesters more CO2 every year than Australia emits, therefore we are a carbon neutral country, what we emit is taken up by our land and its eco system.

Here are some crude results from what information is available.

Depending on their state like, tree spacing, humidity, dryness etc etc

Australian grasslands and forests sequester approximately between

0.5 to 2 tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

To convert to CO2 we need to multiply by 3.67, therefore re-writing

Australian grasslands and forests sequester approximately between

1.835 to 7.34 tonnes of carbon dioxide per hectare annually

There are approximately 149 million hectares of Australian forests

There are approximately 440 million hectares of Australia grass lands

Forrest uptake of atmospheric CO2 every year

Lowest: 149 x 1.835 = 273.4 million tonnes of CO2 per annum

Highest: 149 x 7.34 = 1093.66 million tonnes of CO2 per annum

Grasslands uptake of atmospheric CO2 every year

Lowest: 440 x 1.835 = 807.4 million tonnes of CO2 per annum

Highest: 440 x 7.34 = 3229.6 million tonnes of CO2 per annum

Let’s combine grasslands and forest uptake of atmospheric CO2 per annum

Lowest: 273.4 + 807.4 = 1080.8 million tonnes of CO2 per annum

Highest: 1093.66 + 3229.6 = 4323.26 million tonnes per annum

Australia emits 560 million tonnes of CO2 per annum

The bottom line is

Lowest: Our grasslands and forests sequester nearly double what we emit.

Highest: Our grass lands and forests sequester nearly eight times more than we emit.

Conclusion:

It would be a rare occasion for the lowest or the highest values to take place therefore more than likely we would hover somewhere in between lowest and highest depending on the sun and weather conditions.

The above doesn't take into account the uptake of the land (Australian soil) itself which would make those values even bigger.

https://www.chiefscientist.gov.au/2009/12/which-plants-store-more-carbon-in-aust...

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Soil can sequester carbon at the following rates

Croplands…………………………………………………..0.25 to 1.0
tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

Pastures………………………………………………………0.1 to 0.175 tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

Permanent crops…………………………………………0.5 to 1.0 tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

Salt affected & chemically degrade soil………0.3 to 0.7 tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

Physically degraded & prone water erosion….0.2 to 0.5 tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

Susceptible to wind erosion………………………..0.05 to 0.2 tonnes of carbon per hectare annually

Multiply by 3.67 to convert to CO2

Croplands…………………………………………………..0.918 to 3.67 tonnes of CO2 per hectare annually

Pastures………………………………………………………0.367 to 0.6423 tonnes of CO2 per hectare annually

Permanent crops…………………………………………1.835 to 3.67 tonnes of tonnes of CO2 per hectare annually

Salt affected & chemically degrade soil………1.101 to 2.569 tonnes of tonnes of CO2 per hectare annually

Physically degraded & prone water erosion….0.734 to 01.835 tonnes of tonnes of CO2 per hectare annually

Susceptible to wind erosion………………………..0.1835 to 0.734 tonnes of tonnes of CO2 per hectare annually

Australian land area = 769.2 million hectares

Instead of trying to do the calcs and sorting out what percentage is crop land, pastures etc, I got lazy and refer you to this,

This paper by (Cf Barret 2002) estimated CO2 exchange between atmosphere and the Australian soil at 700 million tonnes every year.

Therefore it can be said that just the Australian land soil sequestration of CO2 from our atmosphere is greater than

Australia’s CO2 emissions.

.........................560 < 700.

If we do go to market for an Emission Trading Scheme we shouldn't pay anything at all, after all we are carbon neutral.

In fact we can sell the extra (sink capacity) as carbon derivatives.

https://www.dairyingfortomorrow.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Soil-Carbon-Sequestrat...
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https://wentworthgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Optimising-Carbon-in-the-A...
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CSIRO estimate that the Australian

landscape has the biophysical potential to store an additional 1,000

million tonnes (Mt) of CO2e in soils and vegetation each year for the next 40 to 50 years.

Terrestrial carbon emissions (primarily from land clearing) are responsible for 14% of Australia’s annual greenhouse gas emissions.

From Wikipedia

The Australian government estimates that Australia's net emissions in 2017 were 556.4 million tonnes CO2-equivalent, to which the sectoral contributions were approximately as follows:

electricity, 33%;

transport, 18%;

stationary energy (excluding electricity), 17%;

agriculture, 13%;

fugitive emissions, 10%;

industrial processes, 6%;

waste, 3%.[3] This includes about 13% for non-electricity residential use.[4]

1000,000,000 tonnes of CO2e every year for the next 40 to 50 years.

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Reply #10 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 12:42pm
 
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This is based purely on temporary greening for a few wet years. Guess what happens to the carbon sink when this position reverses as is normal. That is right all the carbon is released again and Australia becomes the exact opposite of a carbon sink.
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Reply #11 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 12:45pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 9:13am:
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CSIRO estimate that the Australian

landscape has the biophysical potential to store an additional 1,000

million tonnes (Mt) of CO2e in soils and vegetation each year for the next 40 to 50 years.

Terrestrial carbon emissions (primarily from land clearing) are responsible for 14% of Australia’s annual greenhouse gas emissions.

From Wikipedia

The Australian government estimates that Australia's net emissions in 2017 were 556.4 million tonnes CO2-equivalent, to which the sectoral contributions were approximately as follows:

electricity, 33%;

transport, 18%;

stationary energy (excluding electricity), 17%;

agriculture, 13%;

fugitive emissions, 10%;

industrial processes, 6%;

waste, 3%.[3] This includes about 13% for non-electricity residential use.[4]

1000,000,000 tonnes of CO2e every year for the next 40 to 50 years.



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Reply #12 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 12:55pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 12:45pm:
Ajax wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 9:13am:
Quote:
CSIRO estimate that the Australian

landscape has the biophysical potential to store an additional 1,000

million tonnes (Mt) of CO2e in soils and vegetation each year for the next 40 to 50 years.

Terrestrial carbon emissions (primarily from land clearing) are responsible for 14% of Australia’s annual greenhouse gas emissions.

From Wikipedia

The Australian government estimates that Australia's net emissions in 2017 were 556.4 million tonnes CO2-equivalent, to which the sectoral contributions were approximately as follows:

electricity, 33%;

transport, 18%;

stationary energy (excluding electricity), 17%;

agriculture, 13%;

fugitive emissions, 10%;

industrial processes, 6%;

waste, 3%.[3] This includes about 13% for non-electricity residential use.[4]

1000,000,000 tonnes of CO2e every year for the next 40 to 50 years.



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landscape has the biophysical
potential
to store an additional 1,000

million tonnes (Mt) of CO2e in soils and vegetation each year for the next 40 to 50 years.


I didn't right that one, its a quote.......!?

From CSIRO, wiki and below.

https://wentworthgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Optimising-Carbon-in-the-A...


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Reply #13 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 12:59pm
 
Australia is a bigger intelligence sink than a carbon sink.
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Reply #14 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 1:09pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 26th, 2021 at 12:59pm:
Australia is a bigger intelligence sink than a carbon sink.


Face the facts dude....!

Australia emits about 560Gt every year.

The land the soil and the vegetation of Australia can sequester many more times that which we emit.

Like I keep having to remind you guys we only emit

1% of all manmade emissions.

What is it that you donot understand about that....!?
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