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Reply #45 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 6:58pm

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 4:53pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow.

You might have something there -

"Interfax News Report on Biden’s Participation in Ukrainian Corruption

Here is a long report on Interfax News of an investigation into Ukrainian corruption that covers father and son Biden’s role in providing protection for corruption in exchange for money payments. The report gives the larger picture of the extent of Ukrainian corruption. It seems that it might be the case that Washington applies sanctions to those who participate in uncovering and revealing corruption involving US financial entities and persons."

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/12/29/interfax-news-report-on-bidens-parti...

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Looks like Both Lee and Q believed this one ?

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #46 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:16pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 5:17pm:

Would you rather the US went to war against Russia?

The only two alternatives are cuddling up to Putin as Trump did or war?

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What the people ought to demand now, is the removal of politics from the Office of the President, and leave politics to the individual States and Fed Congress. The President is there to defend the Constitution and the United States, not to bang on about pharmaceutical discounts, black lives matter and other divisive social issues inconsequential to the Presidents office. Presidents should shut up about them and just do the job they are meant to do, without being politically partisan

Until Trump opened the pandora’s box of executive power the possibility of a President running amok in a totally undemocratic manner wasn’t considered possible. Now that both sides of congress know it is, if they don’t alter the constitution to remove those powers, another megalomanic idiot from either side can wreak havoc.

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #47 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:23pm

The 70 million + Americans that voted for Trump would mostly be good, decent people....The fringe that refuse to face reality or concede they were wrong will never accept the truth....I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo???

Huh

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith/2020/12/23/americas-pre-biden-gun-spree-...

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20710 Gender:	Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters Reply #48 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:39pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 6:58pm: Looks like Both Lee and Q believed this one ? Good that you asked the question. No I don't believe Interfax the Russian news agency. The same as I didn't necessarily believe the Interfax report on he Chinese Vaccine.
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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #50 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 6:45pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:27pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:17am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 10:30pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:

I know you have a differing opinion and you'll do whatever you can to distract from the topic of this thread.

No, I've stayed on-topic

I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue

So again, the sins of the the "right" get blamed on the "left".

So what, in your opinion, does the "left" need to do before the "right" can be held to account for their actions?

The left are always expected to do more, be better than the right, then the right always sook about being the victims.

Come on guys, stop being so pathetic...

Don't be hypocrites, stop the doublespeak, stop the censorship and cancel culture. Don't be snarly and deranged about people who do not agree with you. Stop the emotional incontinence.

With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve, with progressives it's never clear WHAT they want to progress TO. It's just a relentless and mindless destruction and undermining - see statue toppling, for example, and the rape of language for woke causes.

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With conservatives it's clear what they want to conserve

1956 ?

You'd die if you had to be clear, concise and to the point, wouldn't you?

Ambiguity suits your dishonest reflexes. Sums up all of you bozos. Not an honest bone among the lot of you.

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SadKangaroo Gold Member Offline Not sad, just paying attention to how cooked it is Posts: 22188 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters Reply #51 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:03pm So again the left are being held to a higher standard than the right? Stop being hypocrites? Surely you jest?
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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #52 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:54pm

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

.I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo???

How many are Democrats? Wink

A lot of Democrats are first time gun buyers and most of them if asked say they voted for Trump. They are the ones responsible for the run on both!

The Gun Shops are not running low on firearms and ammunition, the ones I frequent are out as soon as a new shipment arrives! Everything plastic is gone or on back order. They know Biden is bringing chaos and they think this will help them protect their families.

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Reply #53 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 8:31pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:54pm:

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

.I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo???

How many are Democrats? Wink

A lot of Democrats are first time gun buyers and most of them if asked say they voted for Trump. They are the ones responsible for the run on both!

The Gun Shops are not running low on firearms and ammunition, the ones I frequent are out as soon as a new shipment arrives! Everything plastic is gone or on back order. They know Biden is bringing chaos and they think this will help them protect their families.

Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate???

Huh

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #54 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 9:46pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:

Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate???

So give us your representative numbers phil.

Edit: "The latest Rasmussen survey has some very interesting findings regarding those who acknowledge being gun owners or buying a gun. Two-in-five Democrat likely voters say they (or someone in their household) own a gun, as do 35% of liberals and 36% of those likely voters who say they strongly disapprove of President Trump. These three data points, with some amount of overlap between them, indicate that firearms are not the totem of aging conservative Republicans that anti-gun activists would have you believe. Interestingly, household ownership was higher among those aged 18-39 (49%) than among those 65 and above (41%).

Rasmussen Reports also asked self-identified gun owners, “Have you or anyone in your household purchased a gun within the last six months?” The demographic groups saying yes support the evidence that the latest surge has brought a wealth of new gun owners into our community. Female gun owners were more likely than men to say yes (32% to 23%). Those aged 18 to 39 were more than twice as likely as the older cohorts to say yes (42% for age 18-39). Nearly half of black gun owners (47%) said yes, compared to 22% of white respondents. Democrat likely voters were the most likely political affiliation group to say they had bought a gun in the last six months (36% – 13 percentage points higher than Republicans) and liberals were the ideological group most likely to say that they or someone in their household purchased a gun in the last six months (30%, compared to 22% of conservatives)."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/20/gun-ownership-survey-results-show-surprising-...

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #55 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue.

A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.

You guys really think that nothing should be done ?

AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment.

Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA.

The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak.
Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored.
The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system.
The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so.
Conservatives want to argud and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you.

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #56 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:38pm

lee wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 9:46pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:

Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate???

So give us your representative numbers phil.

Edit: "The latest Rasmussen survey has some very interesting findings regarding those who acknowledge being gun owners or buying a gun. Two-in-five Democrat likely voters say they (or someone in their household) own a gun, as do 35% of liberals and 36% of those likely voters who say they strongly disapprove of President Trump. These three data points, with some amount of overlap between them, indicate that firearms are not the totem of aging conservative Republicans that anti-gun activists would have you believe. Interestingly, household ownership was higher among those aged 18-39 (49%) than among those 65 and above (41%).

Rasmussen Reports also asked self-identified gun owners, “Have you or anyone in your household purchased a gun within the last six months?” The demographic groups saying yes support the evidence that the latest surge has brought a wealth of new gun owners into our community. Female gun owners were more likely than men to say yes (32% to 23%). Those aged 18 to 39 were more than twice as likely as the older cohorts to say yes (42% for age 18-39). Nearly half of black gun owners (47%) said yes, compared to 22% of white respondents. Democrat likely voters were the most likely political affiliation group to say they had bought a gun in the last six months (36% – 13 percentage points higher than Republicans) and liberals were the ideological group most likely to say that they or someone in their household purchased a gun in the last six months (30%, compared to 22% of conservatives)."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/20/gun-ownership-survey-results-show-surprising-...

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #57 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:38pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 8:31pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 11:54pm:

lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:40pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:23pm:

.I heard gun shops in America are running short of guns and ammo???

How many are Democrats? Wink

A lot of Democrats are first time gun buyers and most of them if asked say they voted for Trump. They are the ones responsible for the run on both!

The Gun Shops are not running low on firearms and ammunition, the ones I frequent are out as soon as a new shipment arrives! Everything plastic is gone or on back order. They know Biden is bringing chaos and they think this will help them protect their families.

Bullshit....Do yo think we will take your word for it....Show us how you came to this revelation mate???

Huh

It has been posted before gun sales are record highs this year since BLM riots and defund police nonsense.

Ammo is also in short supply because of record gun sales.

All the Trump supporters i know are well stocked those from the centre - right don't need anything the vast majority of new buyers are in Democrat voters.

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Re: AOC - How do we "deradicalize" Trump supporters
Reply #59 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:43pm

Frank wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 10:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 7:43pm:

To do nothing is supporting the white supremist and sedition to continue.

A movement based on conspiracy theories, lies and the letter Q.

You guys really think that nothing should be done ?

AOC is the Brightest politician in the USA at the moment.

Her block is the USA's best opportunity (only opportunity) to get corruption out of politics in the USA.

The radical left manipulate the language and the narrative again - 1984 doublespeak.
Now people who reject and resist the socialist, woke, left totalitarianism who need to be 'deradicalised'. Rejecting the lefty progs now needs to be policed, censored, monitored.
The opposition to one party, the Democrats, now needs to be eradicated in a two-party political system, making it a one party system.
The hoof is always showing with the progs. They are totalitarians who do not want to argue their case beca3yse they know they do not have reason on their side - so they want opposition to be shut up and be obedient. It has always been so and is so now and will always be so.
Conservatives want to argue and convince you. Progs want to silence and eliminate you.

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