Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 12:35pm:


  and he doesnt think the ANGRY ONES...will want to pay back the compliment...

he should be so lucky.. Joe has 100 days to fix UNITY... good luck with that Joe!

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:02pm:


Yeah, I did let Rich get to me.

See these people that lost their lives at the Capitol, it's all because of the lies those people who need to be deradicalised keep telling.

Their deaths were absolutely meaningless.

They died to try to stop the count of the EC votes because they'd been lied to, the very same lies Richs CONTINUES to tell, that the election was stolen from Trump. 

They died for NOTHING. 

Absolutely, bloody, NOTHING!!

They don't get to go home.

They're gone.

All because Trump and those like Rich keep pushing the lie that the election was stolen from him.

Not only that, but Pence was meant to overturn the election result.  He didn't have the power to do so in the first place, he tweeted as much, so he didn't.

These people were also attacking the Capitol trying to force his hand.

He didn't have the power to do it in the first place.  There was no loophole, there was no "Pence Card", yet they Maga people were lied to again.

Every single reason they attempted to take the Capitol to bring in the Storm, their revolution, with their seditious attack was a lie.

It makes me furious that these people had to die for nothing because of the lies people like Rich posted.

AND THEN HE CONTINUES TO DO IT!

Even after these MAGA people have been such a pain these last 4 years, I still care when they needlessly die.

I'm not perfect, I have never claimed to be.  I was angry but more so upset at the lives lost.  I should have shown more restraint than using his very own disregard for human life against him.

I just hope you don't start defending his actions too.

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 2:35pm:


Know your audience, sometimes one must use those terms rather than the more complicated ideas, especially when dealing with someone like Bias.

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:40pm:


No, I've stayed on-topic

I said Trump supporters won't "deradicalize" until the lefty progressives "deradicalize" - Only then will the political divide be narrowed to the point where both will get along in a more commonly peaceful manner and dialogue

Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 10:30pm:

Wrong, only when both sides leave behind their rigid ideological obsessions will the mess sort itself out. Sadly American political ’thinking’ is so stuck in the 1950’s there’s not much chance of anything sensible happening in the political realm.
Something I can’t get my head around though is the radical so called right being blind  to Trump sucking up to his boyfriend in Moscow.
Overlay this with fossilised racism and the idiocies embodied in the US constitution granting far, far too much power to the executive branch that nobody wants to see and America is on a downward spiral.
Oh well, at least there’s a slim chance Pete Buttigieg in his new role might just be able to push America into catching up with China’s world class rail system.

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:





Like Martini in One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest, you are passing the ball to people only you can see.


Not saying that the bombing of the evil empire will star in 5 minutes is now 'sucking up' (even if only to give you another opportunity to mince outrageously)

Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:


That means much the same as what I said. "Deradicalize" is a general term, and now you've defined it down a bit by saying "leave behind rigid ideological obsessions"

So, both sides need to re-examine their ideologies and eject the more extreme aspects of them


Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:


Would you rather the US went to war against Russia?


Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:46am:


This is an extreme generalization that needs ejecting from your psyche, and from your ideology, whatever your ideology is. It will be part of your deradicalization process

In case you didn't know,

if all else fails in the US

, all power then resides with the people, but the people will still need leaders, and those leaders will have to be non-partisan to get things back on track again, probably with further amendments to the Constitution. Every politician in the United States knows they can't usurp the power of the people, that's all the people, if the whole kit and kaboodle breaks down, and the people must be united for any major changes to occur peacefully, hence a need for softening of ideologies until they blend together somewhat, making them palatable to each and all sides




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What the people ought to demand now, is the removal of politics from the Office of the President, and leave politics to the individual States and Fed Congress. The President is there to defend the Constitution and the United States, not to bang on about pharmaceutical discounts, black lives matter and other divisive social issues inconsequential to the Presidents office. Presidents should shut up about them and just do the job they are meant to do, without being politically partisan

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 17^th, 2021 at 9:34pm:


No penalty will encourage more sedition ?

Read again and see how little hate is there mostly positive to AOC.