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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98492	Re: The speech that started it Reply #105 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:58pm lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 12:59pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 12:25pm: Why, stand by for their jolly riot, of course. So there was no order to riot. They were told to stand back. Dates please, Lee. Dates and quotes, dear. He's not your Dear Leader, remember.
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Reply #106 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 3:25pm

what started this was the abandonment of the working classes by the democrats.

many fine hard working americans lost their lives fighting the socialists in korea
and in vietnam.
then they beat the socialists in russia by working hard to produce GMH and Ford and a stack of other fine manufacturing companies.

and they thought the country would offer up praise and gratitude.

instead, the socialists in the universities and media and the political establsihment

1 gave away all their jobs
2 told them they were the oppressor class who now had to repent for their 'white priveldge' (the priveledge to die and sweat to build america)
3 tells them they are deplorable and boot them out of the democratic party so leftie traitors like the squad can be "inclusive" of people from ISIS.

the left brought this all on themselves
these wonderful "real" americans must now fight the socialists yet again

75 million heavily armed , justifiably angry patriots who have been "stabbed in the back".

USA USA USA

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18869 Gender:	Re: The speech that started it Reply #107 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 4:57pm Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:58pm: Dates please, Lee. Dates and quotes, dear. It is your proposition. You prove it.
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Reply #108 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 5:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

what started this was the abandonment of the working classes by the democrats.

many fine hard working americans lost their lives fighting the socialists in korea
and in vietnam.
then they beat the socialists in russia by working hard to produce GMH and Ford and a stack of other fine manufacturing companies.

and they thought the country would offer up praise and gratitude.

instead, the socialists in the universities and media and the political establsihment

1 gave away all their jobs
2 told them they were the oppressor class who now had to repent for their 'white priveldge' (the priveledge to die and sweat to build america)
3 tells them they are deplorable and boot them out of the democratic party so leftie traitors like the squad can be "inclusive" of people from ISIS.

the left brought this all on themselves
these wonderful "real" americans must now fight the socialists yet again

75 million heavily armed , justifiably angry patriots who have been "stabbed in the back".

USA USA USA

Trump wanted to restore self-confidence in America. He will never be forgiven for that.

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Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98492	Re: The speech that started it Reply #109 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:13pm lee wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 4:57pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 2:58pm: Dates please, Lee. Dates and quotes, dear. It is your proposition. You prove it. Spoken like a true Lee.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18869 Gender:	Re: The speech that started it Reply #110 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:36pm Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:13pm: Spoken like a true Lee. Thank you. Now about this proof? Or don't you have any? Just blathering on?
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Reply #111 - Jan 19^th, 2021 at 10:51pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 3:25pm:

what started this was the abandonment of the working classes by the democrats.

many fine hard working americans lost their lives fighting the socialists in korea
and in vietnam.
then they beat the socialists in russia by working hard to produce GMH and Ford and a stack of other fine manufacturing companies.

and they thought the country would offer up praise and gratitude.

instead, the socialists in the universities and media and the political establsihment

1 gave away all their jobs
2 told them they were the oppressor class who now had to repent for their 'white priveldge' (the priveledge to die and sweat to build america)
3 tells them they are deplorable and boot them out of the democratic party so leftie traitors like the squad can be "inclusive" of people from ISIS.

the left brought this all on themselves
these wonderful "real" americans must now fight the socialists yet again

75 million heavily armed , justifiably angry patriots who have been "stabbed in the back".

USA USA USA

Gawd, dear, running around getting teargassed in the Capitol would see your bunions play up. What you people did last week was embarrassing. Even your Dear Leader called you white trash to his friends.

You weren't attacking "the left", you were going for Trump's ex-friends and loyalists. You wanted To lynch Mike Pence of all people, remember? Republican state governors, Mitch McConnell, even Bill Barr has had death threats.

"Weak Republicans", remember?

Now you just want to make your Dear Leader happy, we get that. You're cult members. You, the old boy, silly old Lee. You have one of the least charismatic Leaders I've seen yet, but that doesn't make us feel any easier. Trump has been holding you people in check.

You of all people have demonstrated how far you're prepared to stretch to support your Dear Leader. Now, you'd support anything.

Tomorrow, Trump's gone. His statue will be toppled. And where will you go then?

Where did the Ba'athists go after Saddam?

You know as I where your fellow cultists went. You became ISIS.

Allah Uakbar, no?

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26527 Australia	Re: The speech that started it Reply #112 - Jan 20^th, 2021 at 5:03am No - not socialists in vietnam - why you trying to blur the line? not the same thing. Spot
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Reply #113 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 8:35pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 10:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 10:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 8:56pm:

The Proud Boys believe in violent insurrection. That's their point. Here's their founder, Gavin McInnes:

Quote:

“I want violence, I want punching in the face. I’m disappointed in Trump supporters for not punching enough.”

Perhaps drone strikes are morally acceptable? They were for Biden and Obama. This is progress.

Mistie, if you weren't such a "progressive" lecturer of our Muslim brothers, I'd ask what you mean by morally acceptable.

Staging a Washington sit-in? Organizing a demo at the Capitol? Hunting down the Vice Prez for a lynching?

This is "progress".

Morality will be what we progressives say it will be. This is progress.

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Reply #114 - Jan 21^st, 2021 at 8:43pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 19^th, 2021 at 7:39am:

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 4:18pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 3:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 3:23pm:

mothra wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 1:01am:

BLM leaders have not only been unanimous is condemning any violence or property damage, they've been faster than a speeding bullet to do so.

Time this idiocy was put to bed.

And Antifa is not even a thing..... tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

You'll wake up one day frank.

oh come on what does that mean???????... so its ok for you to talk terrorist about everything but anyone bring in antifa you act as if they are boy scouts.. Roll Eyes

No.

But antifa isn't an organisation like all these right-wing extremist militias. You can't point to someone and say "Oh they're from antifa".

Sure, the Fox news of the world love to paint it that way to give their base an enemy to be distracted with and deflect away from their own issues, but again, reality.

That's not to say there aren't people who take advantage of progressive protests or their entire aim is violence, but being "anti-fascist" isn't the same as being a Proud Boy.

It's closer to being boogaloo bois but even then there is some nuance.

That's not to excuse the violence or actions of those being accused of being "an antifa", not at all.

But it's a clear distinction that is important between the two.

Those who continue to treat the anti-fascism movement as if it's a terrorist organisation are not acting in good faith.

But hey, we're used to that from MAGA yeah?

Good propaganda, Comrade. Left wing groups aren't organisations but right wing groups are organisations. Worthy of Websters. This is progress.

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