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Are we in a GSM?
Jan 6th, 2021 at 10:54am
 
No.  Smiley

Not even a “mere” Dalton and the present cycle is more active than Cycle 24, no GSM.

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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:17pm
 
I thought the high school dropout Booby might post here?
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Reply #2 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 5:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 4:17pm:
I thought the high school dropout Booby might post here?



Maybe he needs a little more titillation ?

You are obviously not keeping abreast of things lol
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2021 at 6:49pm
 
Nevermind, the high school dropout will likely find some cold weather to get really excited about.

I loved when he highlighted “coldest day this year” in some early winter weather report. Must be unusual in  Booby’s world for winter to have the coldest temperatures of the year  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 6:35am
 
Clearly, the sun is not in a GSM or anywhere near it.

The warming from increasing amounts of greenhouse gases will continue, another 1°C warming by 2060 (assuming no further acceleration in warming.)

The warm Arctic is seeing permafrost thaw out, releasing methane—so one greenhouse gas is out of our control now. Methane is a very powerful GHG but oxidises fairly quickly into CO2. With much more open ocean sunlight is absorbed by the dark ocean warming the ocean. As the heat gets released later in the year it slows refreezing of ocean water, meaning the next season starts with thinner ice. There is little to no thick multiyear ice left. Methane is also now released from under the Arctic Ocean as a result of this rapid warming.

If you want to learn more, this Arctic Sea Ice forum is a great place of informed discussion:

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3299.200.html


When the sun eventually does go into a GSM it will cool the globe by 0.2°C, which is how much AGW warms us in a decade—with the seas releasing heat we won’t even notice any cooling.

The so-called Environment board here is a complete waste of space.
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Reply #5 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 6:49am
 
You're an f'wit.  Roll Eyes
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Such erudition!
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Reply #7 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 7:13am
 
What are you trying to prove?

That all your combatants/detractors are right about you?  Roll Eyes

Wake up to yourself.
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Reply #8 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 3:19pm
 
This needs no explanation:

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Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 3:25pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 6th, 2021 at 9:13pm:
I expect an increase in extremism and erraticism in the weather and the environment.



It could be explained as a "disturbed closed loop system"

An under damped system will oscillate around a
set point but eventually settle on a final value.
If that value is on average higher then we have global warming -
if lower then global cooling.
This is what Monk couldn't understand.



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Reply #10 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 3:41pm
 
The world is accumulating heat, mostly in the oceans which is why an increase in CO2 content takes about 21 years to manifest in rising terrestrial/lower troposphere temperatures.

This is why that stuff you keep posting without understanding is irrelevant. You could not even explain why the globe and atmosphere is “an underdamped system.”

There is no GSM. there is no Ice Age coming.
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Reply #11 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 3:45pm
 
No point asking me to apologise for the weather, moron, as I have explained more than once cold weather can still happen: in Australia really cold weather that happened 1.73% of the time now only occurs 1% of the time.

Globally:
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Reply #12 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 3:47pm
 
So, Booby, do you agree we are NOT “. . .in a GSM since 2016?”
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Reply #13 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 3:59pm
 
Monk doesn't understand science.
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Reply #14 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 4:07pm
 
I have a BSc, you dropped out of high school.

Now—are we in a GSM since 2016? Yes or no.
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Reply #15 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 4:29pm
 
You will evade answering, obviously.

If you agree not to call me “Mon•” then I will end your ban from Critters and Gardens.
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Reply #16 - Jan 7th, 2021 at 5:26pm
 
lee posted:

Quote:
"According to Carbon Brief, NASA’s Dr. Gavin Schmidt believes humans are responsible for about 110 percent of observed warming. This is a sentiment echoed by the U.S. fourth national climate assessment from 2017, which found that human activities were responsible for anywhere from 93 percent to 123 percent of observed warming from 1951 to 2010."


More than 100% because natural drivers are cooling us:

1. Milankovich cycle should have cooled the Arctic particularly and the NH generally.

2. Since the 1980s the sun has gone a bit quiet.

So AGW warms to offset these two factors plus the warming we have observed.

Now, did you forget all this? Since yesterday and earlier today? Or are you lying?
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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 2:12pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 4:29pm:
You will evade answering, obviously.

If you agree not to call me “Mon•” then I will end your ban from Critters and Gardens.



Pride comes before a fall , He calls you a name and you ban him, You need to loosen up if you want to be among us
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Reply #18 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:27pm
 
Booby, the Alps were warm a few thousand years ago—Holocene Optimum you lamebrain, you looked at my graph in my intro to AGW, remember? Geez, head like a sieve.

Likely now we are warmer than the Holocene Optimum, went past that late last century.

Nothing new in the paper lee cited. At least TRY and use your brain!
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Reply #19 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 5:29pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:27pm:
Booby, the Alps were warm a few thousand years ago—Holocene Optimum you lamebrain, you looked at my graph in my intro to AGW, remember? Geez, head like a sieve.

Likely now we are warmer than the Holocene Optimum, went past that late last century.

Nothing new in the paper lee cited. At least TRY and use your brain!


Monk I appreciate you are probably old enough to have been there during that period . But it is mere blink  in the cycle of this planet and proves nothing
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Reply #20 - Jan 8th, 2021 at 7:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 7th, 2021 at 5:26pm:
So AGW warms to offset these two factors plus the warming we have observed.

Now, did you forget all this? Since yesterday and earlier today? Or are you lying?


How did you forget the AGW scam has been falsified by Hansen's own words. You can stop bleating now. Wink

And of course Marcott 2013. It was warmer before the uptick, and that is a statistical anomaly. The 120 year smoothing. Wink
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Reply #21 - Jan 9th, 2021 at 6:43am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2021 at 3:27pm:
Booby, the Alps were warm a few thousand years ago—Holocene Optimum you lamebrain, you looked at my graph in my intro to AGW, remember? Geez, head like a sieve.

Likely now we are warmer than the Holocene Optimum, went past that late last century.

Nothing new in the paper lee cited. At least TRY and use your brain!



Monk,
have you forgotten that you are banned from the Environment forum?

Edit -  I now remember -
this thread was started in the Relationships MRB.
Who moved it here?
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Reply #23 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 9:13am
 
You never answered the question, did you Bobby?

You are no knight of the round table, that is for sure. Time for a change, Bobby. You will love posting puppy and kitten videos. Management will likely move the “Cats and Critters topics now here” to Cs&Gs if you ask nicely.
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Reply #24 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 9:24am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 9:13am:
You never answered the question, did you Bobby?

You are no knight of the round table, that is for sure. Time for a change, Bobby. You will love posting puppy and kitten videos. Management will likely move the “Cats and Critters topics now here” to Cs&Gs if you ask nicely.



dear beloved Monk,
you really don't know what's going on -
as you were.

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Reply #25 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:57am
 
There is no GSM at the present time, Booby. The current cycle is proving to be more active than Cycle 24.

Everything you have posted about an ice age or the globe cooling is a lie.

You have failed big time here.
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Reply #26 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:57am
 
You are a coward who cannot accept reality over lies from a grifter by the name of Dubyne.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:57am:
You are a coward who cannot accept reality over lies from a grifter by the name of Dubyne.



Monk - you are here as a privilege not a right.
You are sailing close to the wind.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:59am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:57am:
You are a coward who cannot accept reality over lies from a grifter by the name of Dubyne.



Monk - you are here as a privilege not a right.
You are sailing close to the wind.


I speak the obvious truth. So you only accept those who follow your line of bullshit about the globe cooling/warming/going into an ice age.

There is no GSM now. A GSM cools by 0.2°C at most.
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Reply #29 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:04pm
 
As to cooling, La Nina year 2020 was equally warm as mega El Nino year 2016. Last November was the warmest November on record.
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Reply #30 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:06pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:59am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:57am:
You are a coward who cannot accept reality over lies from a grifter by the name of Dubyne.



Monk - you are here as a privilege not a right.
You are sailing close to the wind.


I speak the obvious truth. So you only accept those who follow your line of bullshit about the globe cooling/warming/going into an ice age.

There is no GSM now. A GSM cools by 0.2°C at most.



Monk,
don't use this forum - this MRB - to denigrate me -
or anyone else.
I reserve the right to delete, or modify any post here
if it contains abuse.
Abuse is not allowed here.
Read the rules.
You are warned for the 4th time.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:03pm:
There is no GSM now. A GSM cools by 0.2°C at most.


Link?

"ccording to the Scientific community, the sun was not expected to head into a solar minimum until 2020. However, the solar minimum has started early. Experts states this would mean a prolonged cold snap for the planet. The experts feel that it is important to point out that the last time that there was a prolonged solar minimum, a mini Ice Age has occurred which lasted for 70 years. The seven decades of freezing weather, known as the Maunder minimum, lasted from 1645 to 1715. During this time, there is a very low occurrence of sunspots.

In addition, global temperatures during the time dropped by 1.3°C that have shortened seasons and have affected the food chain that ultimately led to food shortages. "

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/22497/20190608/scientists-warn-solar-minim...

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
As to cooling, La Nina year 2020 was equally warm as mega El Nino year 2016. Last November was the warmest November on record.



Where? And of course the La Nina wasn't declared until the end of September. You thought it would have an immediate impact? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #33 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:23pm
 
Thanks Lee but you try and tell Monk that.
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Reply #34 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:25pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 11:57am:
The current cycle is proving to be more active than Cycle 24.



Link? Not what I am seeing.

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https://www.solen.info/solar/
Dated January 1 2021
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Reply #35 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:27pm
 
Sun has been in a minimum since the 1960s.

We are still warming tho. The current solar cycle, #25, is more active than the preceding one.

Predatory journals are not a reliable source.

Try reading some science, Bobby, if you can.
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Reply #36 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:27pm:
The current solar cycle, #25, is more active than the preceding one.


Link? Roll Eyes
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