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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 144633 Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #960 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:50pm Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm: We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us. Who has the better life, ... The citizens of Western Australia.
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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #961 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

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Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.

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“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.

I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

WA needs to stick to it's guns & keep it's borders shut ....

and from what has happened here since they were opened & what's happened in NSW & Vic where they are about to reintroduce harsh restrictions(de ja vu you dopey Tnucs) Palaszczuk should have kept QLDs borders shut.

Our public health systems are overrun, understaffed & under resourced to deal with
highly contagious wave of the "very mild" Omicron variant.

Idiots.... those here know who those idiots are.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 31725 Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #962 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:55pm Should have left the double up because it appears some here need telling more than twice how stupid they are.
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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #963 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:17pm:

Food supply shortages coupled with a drastic rise in COVID cases is affecting the entire country.

Except for WA, that is.

I wonder why that might be Undecided

Certainly is here in regional QLD ... no tissues, no toilet paper, no domestos type cleaner in Woolies today.....

many other food stock items not on the shelves.

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Reply #964 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:01pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 5:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 12:01pm:

Carl D wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 11:53am:

Are we getting closer to the definition of "catastrophe", Mark?

‘Not ideal’: WA’s reopening date to coincide with national peak in COVID cases

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Western Australia’s reopening could bring about a tidal wave of COVID-19 cases with the date expected to coincide with the peak of Omicron infections in other Australian states.

Premier Mark McGowan has committed to reopening WA’s border to vaccinated interstate and international travellers on February 5, pending a catastrophe.

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“Omicron is milder, but it takes off explosively, so as soon as the numbers start to tick up, you want to dampen the spread.

Are you sure about that, Mark?

It would be absolute insanity to open up WA on February 5th after what's happening in the rest of Australia.

Assuming of course that Covid isn't already 'on the loose' here thanks to idiot backpackers and the never ending flood of overseas Covid cases still being flown in and the State government still trying to quarantine them in not fit for purpose city hotels.

I doubt very much that we'll open up on February 5.

By then, the country will be in a state of emergency.

incorrect

a state of flourishing

You have definitely drunk all the Cool Aid ... idiot.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 31725 Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #965 - Jan 7^th, 2022 at 7:03pm Frank wrote on Jan 7^th, 2022 at 6:41pm: We will all die, carl, aqua, me,, all of us. Who has the better life, though, the man who shelters in place or the man who takes life by the scruff of the neck and rides it to the end. Be funny if you're riding it prematurely in a hearse ey?
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Victor Sunny Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 379 Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #966 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 7:17am If WA can still get COVID under control, we should choose Mark McGowan as our next Premier Minister rather than idiot Scomo.
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 52119 Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #967 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am With 90%+ vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like? And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations? You can't have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.
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Reply #968 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am:

With 90%+ vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.

All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10069 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #969 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:45am Victor Sunny wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 7:17am: If WA can still get COVID under control, we should choose Mark McGowan as our next Premier Minister rather than idiot Scomo. Would be nice but I do believe most of us here in WA would not want to lose him to Canberra.
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Reply #970 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:21am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am:

With 90%+ vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.

All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.

Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks

Victoria put up with 260 days of lockdown with nothing to show for it
Now all the eastern states have to put up with is maybe 30 days of people having bad head Colds
And then we can resume human flourishing

People who are so risk averse that they are scared of a head cold
Really need the help of our mental health services
To treat their insane and unrealistic death anxiety

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Reply #971 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:31am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks

Got any proof of that?

Because the World Health Organization begs to differ.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/07/omicron-is-killing-people-and-should-not-be-...

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The head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) warned on Thursday against describing the Omicron variant as "mild" amid a "tsunami of cases" overwhelming health systems across the world.

And, where will this fabled "herd immunity" come from for a virus that continues to mutate plus it is able to infect people more than once?

You sound like most of our politicians with their 'heads in the sand' approach which has allowed this Covid tsunami to be unleashed on most of Australia.

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Reply #972 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:50am

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:31am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 11:21am:

Correct

Omicron is about 1/10 as deadly
So whatever modelling we had for delta
We should only be 1/10 as concerned with omicron
It is going to sleep through the community and provide very good herd immunity
And it should all be over in a couple of weeks

Got any proof of that?

Because the World Health Organization begs to differ.

https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/07/omicron-is-killing-people-and-should-not-be-...

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The head of the World Health Organisation (WHO) warned on Thursday against describing the Omicron variant as "mild" amid a "tsunami of cases" overwhelming health systems across the world.

And, where will this fabled "herd immunity" come from for a virus that continues to mutate plus it is able to infect people more than once?

You sound like most of our politicians with their 'heads in the sand' approach which has allowed this Covid tsunami to be unleashed on most of Australia.

The WHO have made numerous misleading statements with Kung Flu starting with no evidence of human to human transmission.

The WHO redefined herd immunity claiming we can get if from vaccination despite those who make the vaccines saying this will be impossible.

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AstraZeneca Scientist Says Delta Variant Makes Herd Immunity Impossible. Here's Why

Speaking at a UK parliamentary meeting on Tuesday, Sir Andrew Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity at the University of Oxford, said that achieving herd immunity is "not a possibility" now that the Delta variant is circulating.

Some experts had hoped that herd immunity could be reached with COVID-19, as was the case with measles, which is also highly infectious.

But growing evidence suggests that, with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

"We don't have anything which will stop that transmission to other people," Pollard said.

https://www.sciencealert.com/delta-variant-means-we-can-rule-out-herd-immunity-s...

NSW and VIC are 2 of the most highly vaxxed places on earth yet cases are exploding among the vaxxed.

Once upon a time the WHO might have been great these days they're next to useless.

Why did they redefine herd immunity i wonder how much big pharma contributes to the WHO budget.

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Re: COVID in WA
Reply #973 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 12:19pm

Carl D wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Jan 8^th, 2022 at 10:02am:

With 90%+ vaccination rates, what exactly will the 'catastrophe' look like?

And if there is going to be STILL a catastrophrpe despute 90%+ vaccination rates - what was the point of vaccinations?

You can't have it both ways, high vax rates AND still carastrophising.

All of the 'modelling' that was done regarding vaccinations and opening borders, etc. was done with Delta.

Then Omicron came along and 'changed the game'.

All of our pollies (except Mark McGowan) were too slow to understand (or deliberately ignored) this.

Soooooo..... With 90+% vaccination rate what catastrophe are you forecasting?
You forgot to say.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 144633 Gender:	Re: COVID in WA Reply #974 - Jan 8^th, 2022 at 12:34pm New South Wales.... 45,098 new cases and 9 deaths. Victoria................. 51,356 new cases and 9 deaths. WA....................... 0 new cases and 0 deaths. Hmm, I wonder why
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