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Reply #240 - Apr 29th, 2021 at 8:51pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Is that when you arent driving around drunk?  Does the following  remind you of anyone?
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Chronic Severe Alcoholics
Most likely what a person pictures when the term alcoholic is used, the chronic severe alcoholic subtype only accounts for about 9 percent of the entire US alcoholic population. A chronic severe alcoholic likely started drinking and struggling with alcohol-related issues and problematic drinking at a young age and is currently middle-aged. This subtype also battles antisocial personality disorder at high rates and regularly has issues with the law and therefore criminal or legal troubles as well.

Alcohol is often implicated in exacerbating aggression, and the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence (NCADD) publishes that 40 percent of all violent crimes cite alcohol as a contributing factor. Chronic severe alcoholics suffer from psychiatric disorders more often than other subtypes of alcoholics, including bipolar disorder, depression, and anxiety disorders.

pecca? Do any of those personality characteristics remind you of anyone?
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Reply #241 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:01am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 5:41pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 5:34pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:47pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 4:40pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 27th, 2021 at 6:15pm:
would you like me to post the shipping container arrivals for the USA from china for the first 3 months of this year.

record numbers

thru the roof.

the chinese are sending so much stuff to the USA it isnt economically viable to send them back so they just make new ones and leave the empty ones parked in the states.

they certainly seem to be back to business as usual

BEIJING/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China’s world-beating economic rebound from the coronavirus pandemic is being blunted by a global shortage of shipping containers, sending cargo costs to record highs and hampering manufacturers in filling fast-recovering global goods orders.

Exports from China surged 21% in November from a year ago as the country’s mammoth industrial engine cranked out mountains of appliances, toys, clothes, personal protective equipment and other items currently in high demand around the world.

But due to China’s lopsided trade balance - exporting three containers for every one imported recently - and delays in containers returning to China due to the pandemic overseas, a severe shortage is now starting to pinch export flows. Roughly 60% of global goods move by container, and according to United Nations trade data there are close to 180 million containers worldwide.

“We have so many orders but just cannot ship things,” said Charles Xu, a mirror salesman in the export manufacturing hub of Yiwu in Zhejiang province who supplies U.S. retailers such as Walmart and Home Depot.

Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets China can make...



Makes you wonder how many glass beads, poorly made clothes, paw-waving cats, fake silver and bogus gold trinkets the west will buy

Australian ratio of debt to GDP =  47 percent
China ratio of debt to GDP = 318 percent

China better hope the west keeps buying their trinkets or they are going to find out  out that you cant feed people on cheap sneakers and dishwashers.



is that government debt or bank debt.

remember that debt in australia is 97 % debt generated by the banks creating money out of thin air to finance

property speculation and consumer spending (neither of which add to productivity).

chinese debt is government debt targeted at productive businesses .
thus it adds to productivity.

there is a reason that china is the worlds manufacturing hub and melbourne and sydeny are now 2 of the the top 3 most expensive cities to buy property in the world.

japan was just like that (before it began 30 years of stagflation)

yeah, thought you couldnt understand it, basic economics.


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Reply #242 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:41am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?


well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.

but you miss the point.

all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.


the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,


the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government  Shocked Shocked Shocked,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our  banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt
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Reply #243 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:33am
 
Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased restrictions for Perth including masks and derby crowd


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan...

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Perth and Peel residents will be forced to continue wearing masks indoors for another week but a crowd of 45,000 will be permitted at Sunday’s western derby as post-lockdown restrictions are wound back from midnight tomorrow.


Well, as long as the masses have their footy then everything will be OK.

Hope they're all wearing masks - I wonder if Optus Stadium is classified as indoor or outdoor? Roll Eyes
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Reply #244 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:56am
 
Yes Karl everyone should give up football
Travel
Work
Tourism
Visiting relatives in other states
Visiting relatives overseas
Working in other states
Working overseas
Studying in other states
Studying overseas
Importing critical infrastructure from overseas
Exporting overseas
Importing essential workers from overseas

They should all be done indefinitely and for all time
So that Carl and Gregory can remain safe under their beds
Risking nothing
Doing nothing
Producing nothing
And achieving nothing Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #245 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:09am
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:56am:
Yes Karl everyone should give up football
Travel
Work
Tourism
Visiting relatives in other states
Visiting relatives overseas
Working in other states
Working overseas
Studying in other states
Studying overseas
Importing critical infrastructure from overseas
Exporting overseas
Importing essential workers from overseas

They should all be done indefinitely and for all time
So that Carl and Gregory can remain safe under their beds
Risking nothing
Doing nothing
Producing nothing
And achieving nothing Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No... they should all be done until the pandemic is under control which won't be for some time when you look at the situation overseas plus the steadily increasing number of infected "returned travellers" arriving every week and the "not fit for purpose" city hotel quarantine that's still being used.

A letter writer in yesterday's paper said that the easiest way to remove the Covid risk to Australia is to stop all overseas arrivals and he also believes a large number of them only want to come back here because its the safer option. Which is also something that I (and many other people I've spoken to lately) believe to be true.
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Reply #246 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 11:56am
 
If CoVid doesn't kill you the jab will! Wink
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Reply #247 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 12:12pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:41am:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?


well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.
So the Gold Coast is completely empty with no one living there and devoid of any economic activity?

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but you miss the point.
No my roundup drinking friend, you miss the point, the Chinese are building empty cities with borrowed money for no other reason than to boost their GDP. And not just cities, they are duplicating unneeded infrastructure, all on borrowed money. That is not wealth creation


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all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.


the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,


the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government  Shocked Shocked Shocked,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our  banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt
wow , a whole rant written based on complete nonsense and a total misunderstanding of economics.. Get tested,seriously.
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Reply #248 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 12:50pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 12:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:41am:
rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 7:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 29th, 2021 at 6:32pm:
i think its you that doesnt understand it.

please explain how the big four banks in australia are able to finance the most expensive property bubble on the planet?

are they lending out depositors funds  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

explain how that model is not hugely risky but the chinese model is  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Any completely empty cities you have noticed around Australia lately?


well the gold coast has been a largely empty city for 12 months.
So the Gold Coast is completely empty with no one living there and devoid of any economic activity?

Quote:
but you miss the point.
No my roundup drinking friend, you miss the point, the Chinese are building empty cities with borrowed money for no other reason than to boost their GDP. And not just cities, they are duplicating unneeded infrastructure, all on borrowed money. That is not wealth creation


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all western governments have decided to run their economies by getting central banks to drive interest rates to zero (QE) and then get the central banks to create money which is essentially free for the government as they pay no interest to their own central bank.

they used to raise taxes but taxes are a correct form of redistribution whilst money printing seems like it hurts no one but of course its a ponzi scheme.


the consequence of interest rates at 0 is that (private) banks can just open their ledger
write a loan to anyone and the books are balanced because the loan is both an asset and a liability.

so the private banks can now essentially create money for free,


the scarey part is that in the west , for every dollar of money creation by, say scomo, to pay for , say, covid, there is $30 of money creation by the banks.

they are creating debt at 30 x the rate of the federal government  Shocked Shocked Shocked,

and who do they give this money to.

in china , Xi and his mates run the banks and they can demand it be given to business which actually does productive things.

you should check out , for instance, chinas electric car production.

the biggest in the world and growing exponentially.
but Xi can also demand it be used for infrastructure and entrepreneurs (unicorn companies) etc.

in Oz , scomo has no say and what is easiest for our private banks?

to lend it all to property speculators and the share speculators,

that actually does very little for productivity.

our rate of lending to small innovative business is non existant.
its simply too hard to work that out.

interestingly the two countries with BY FAR the biggest lending to small business are china and germany.

the concept of "small champion companies" is worth understanding.

these are small companies that are world leaders but in a small area,

they might be world leaders in just one technology but they need money to innovate.

germany has 1000's of smallbanks who lend directly to these guys.
china got experts in to revamp their banking system and they too have 1000's of small banks who only lend to innovators.

austrlai has none.

without banks specifically giving capital to small businesses, our ideas wither on the vine.

our  banks only lend to james packer, gerry harvey and rio tinto.

its why chinese debt is far more strategic then austrelain debt
wow , a whole rant written based on complete nonsense and a total misunderstanding of economics.. Get tested,seriously.



could you outline which bits are complete nonsense or are you just awestruck by my excellent arguement and left speechless by your ignorance  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #249 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 10:33am:
Coronavirus WA: Premier Mark McGowan announces eased restrictions for Perth including masks and derby crowd


https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-wa-premier-mark-mcgowan...

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Perth and Peel residents will be forced to continue wearing masks indoors for another week but a crowd of 45,000 will be permitted at Sunday’s western derby as post-lockdown restrictions are wound back from midnight tomorrow.


Well, as long as the masses have their footy then everything will be OK.

Hope they're all wearing masks - I wonder if Optus Stadium is classified as indoor or outdoor? Roll Eyes


Ah, here we go. Today's West Australian.

"masks to remain amid other restrictions"

Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?

I've also noticed a shortage of newspapers the past 2 days at our local IGA and the newsagent close by even at 11am.

Maybe everyone's buying them to read The Gospel According To Saint Mark (McGowan)?

"Thou shalt wear thy masks for at least one more week."  Roll Eyes
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Reply #250 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm
 
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.

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Reply #251 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.



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Reply #252 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

being willing to compete and put your body on the line.


it is the complete opposite of the girly man "safe space" of the trembling chode who wants the authorities to "keep me comfortable  "
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Reply #253 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:37pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.
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Reply #254 - Apr 30th, 2021 at 6:18pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 5:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:33pm:
Carl D wrote on Apr 30th, 2021 at 2:02pm:
Wonder how many fines are going to be handed out at Optus Stadium on Sunday for not wearing a mask?



None, I suspect.

They'll just say they were removing the mask in order to drink their beer.

All they have to do is a hold a beer in their hands at all times, which most of them do anyway.

Sport seems to be exempt from COVID-19 rules and regulations.




sport is about

exposing yourself to risk of pain and suffering
moving out into the world in the spirit of adventure
resilience
toughness
grit
courage

You missed transcendence.



Excellent point

It's also about learning to incorporate aggression into a competitive spirit

The intellectual who does not play sport tries to repress that aggression
And then it usually spills out as bitterness
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