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Reply #1635 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 6:32am
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 28th, 2022 at 11:29pm:
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WA Health Department stuck with 2.25 million ineffective rapid antigen tests

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The WA Health Department is stuck with more than two million COVID rapid antigen tests that have been withdrawn from sale in Australia.

It comes after the Therapeutic Goods Administration launched a review into the effectiveness of RATs in detecting the newer variants of COVID-19.


Perhaps it might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks instead of dodgy RAT's because I've heard that even the ones that are still approved are only about 60% effective in detecting the newer Covid variants - especially Omicron and it's multitude of sub variants.

I still have 25 RAT's here that came free from the WA government a few months back - 15 nasal swab type and 10 saliva type and I haven't used any of them so far.

Maybe I should sell them for $10 each and make myself a nice $250?  Cool

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might as well

the main purpose of RAT tests now is to make profits and kickbacks for the makers of RAT tests.
when 2/3 australians have now been shown to be positive for antigens to the actual virus (ie they have had covid) , why bother testing.

what does it prove?
how is it altering policy?
just a waste of money
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Reply #1636 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 6:36am
 
same goes for masks carl.

what are you achieving?

if we arent going to do a complete and utter brutal lockdown (and we arent) then at what point will you and gweggy accept that covid is now just a part of life.

we have no treatment for alzhiemers and we have more people suffering for years with that (not just a week with a sniffle).

why not put the money from masks and rat tests ( a futile nonsense) into alzhiemers research.

we dont because we just accept alzheimers and we dont have daily updates on alzhiemers deaths because there is sweet FA that can be done

same applies to this respiratory virus.

unless you are advocating we all stop breathing  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1637 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 6:52am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 6:36am:
same goes for masks carl.

what are you achieving?

if we arent going to do a complete and utter brutal lockdown (and we arent) then at what point will you and gweggy accept that covid is now just a part of life.



Not sure what you mean by that - I accepted it as part of life ages ago.

That doesn't mean I want to catch it though, and pass it onto my very frail, elderly mother.

I already lost my father this year - I don't want to lose my mother too.

So, I'll keep wearing a mask, maintaining social distancing, and getting vaccinated.

It takes very little effort.
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Reply #1638 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:21am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 6:52am:
Not sure what you mean by that - I accepted it as part of life ages ago.

That doesn't mean I want to catch it though, and pass it onto my very frail, elderly mother.

I already lost my father this year - I don't want to lose my mother too.

So, I'll keep wearing a mask, maintaining social distancing, and getting vaccinated.

It takes very little effort.


Well said, Greg. I feel exactly the same about my 92 year old aunt.

And, we're not alone:

https://twitter.com/drajm/status/1552488063758376960

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Maybe I have a different view on the risks of the pandemic because I live with & help to care for my mother who, like all the elderly, has the right to be treated with a little respect by society & not just be left out with the pandemic trash.


- Doctor Andrew Miller,
President Aust Soc of Anaesthetists, AMA WA Past Pres. Columnist at The West @WestAustralian.


Unfortunately, wearing a mask and social distancing seems to take a lot of effort as far as the majority of people is concerned. I hate to imagine what real hardship would be like for them, something like living during the Great Depression or a World War, they probably wouldn't survive a month.


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Reply #1639 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:37am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 6:32am:
might as well

when 2/3 australians have now been shown to be positive for antigens to the actual virus (ie they have had covid) , why bother testing.


Surely you're not one of the many people who mistakenly believe you can only get Covid once?

Because you can be reinfected over and over - even with the same Covid variant. And, while people are being endlessly reinfected more and more people are being hospitalised and dying.

And, with more and more people constantly sick that doesn't bode well for businesses and the economy as we're seeing already.

We need to try and slow and preferably stop this virus by any means possible because who knows what the next variant may be capable of? Could be a 50% fatality rate for all we know.

Many of us (myself included) once believed Covid would gradually evolve into something like the common cold but viruses are under no 'obligation' to follow that path and it doesn't look like Covid is heading that way, at least for now.
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Reply #1640 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:52am
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 28th, 2022 at 11:29pm:
Oh, dear...

WA Health Department stuck with 2.25 million ineffective rapid antigen tests

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The WA Health Department is stuck with more than two million COVID rapid antigen tests that have been withdrawn from sale in Australia.

It comes after the Therapeutic Goods Administration launched a review into the effectiveness of RATs in detecting the newer variants of COVID-19.


Perhaps it might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks instead of dodgy RAT's because I've heard that even the ones that are still approved are only about 60% effective in detecting the newer Covid variants - especially Omicron and it's multitude of sub variants.

I still have 25 RAT's here that came free from the WA government a few months back - 15 nasal swab type and 10 saliva type and I haven't used any of them so far.

Maybe I should sell them for $10 each and make myself a nice $250?  Cool



Ah, the profiteering instinct kicks in....



Re "might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks" - why don't you buy some?


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Reply #1641 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:59am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:52am:
Ah, the profiteering instinct kicks in....


Ah, the intended sarcasm zoomed right over your head.

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Re "might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks" - why don't you buy some?


I have bought some - several boxes of KN95 masks from our local chemist months ago. And, I'll buy some more when I need to.
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Reply #1642 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 10:05am
 
Carl D wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Jul 29th, 2022 at 9:52am:
Ah, the profiteering instinct kicks in....


Ah, the intended sarcasm zoomed right over your head.

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Re "might have been better if the WA government gave us all free K/KN95/P2 masks" - why don't you buy some?


I have bought some - several boxes of KN95 masks from our local chemist months ago. And, I'll buy some more when I need to.


I've bought plenty of boxes of those masks too.

Mum keeps a box in the back pocket of her wheelchair and hands one out to anyone who approaches her without a mask on.

I have no problem paying $10 for a box of masks that just might save my mother's life.
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Reply #1643 - Jul 29th, 2022 at 5:19pm
 
The other good thing about wearing a mask when shopping, etc. is that my aunt and I have also managed to avoid the flu so far this year.

We both had our flu shots in April but, like Covid, we'd really like to avoid catching it if possible.

Last time we had the flu was in 2019, we both had it twice that year and it always hits my aunt really hard even after having the flu shot - it can take her a month to get over the cough after the runny nose, etc. stops.

Fingers crossed we can keep from getting it - the last 2 years were great with almost no flu (and Covid) around due to border closures and other Covid protections.
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Reply #1644 - Aug 28th, 2022 at 2:33pm
 
Went up to Belmont Forum this morning.

I've devised a new game to amuse myself while I'm out shopping these days, it's called Spot The Mask.

Very easy to play - just look around and count how many masks you can see. Bonus points if you spot someone with a high quality K/KN95/P2 mask instead of the "baggy blues".

Here's 3 pictures I took while I was there to give everyone an example of how difficult this game is (this game has also become a lot harder since governments "strongly recommended" masks be worn in crowded indoor places).

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I'm sensing a business opportunity here - perhaps I could market this along the lines of Where's Wally?/Where's Waldo?

Might start with a Where's The Mask? website and if it becomes popular maybe I could launch a series of books.

Don't forget - I thought of it first.  Smiley
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Reply #1645 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 12:25am
 
Well done, Mark McGowan. You idiot.

On a day where WA has recorded 13 deaths you announce that masks will no longer be compulsory on public transport from next Friday.

And with that... our last remaining Covid protections are gone.

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Premier Mark McGowan said the move was possible because of WA's "soft" COVID landing, and was based on the latest public health advice.


Soft COVID landing, my @ss. Try telling that to the families of the
594
people who have been killed by Covid since WA's border opened 6 months ago. Up until then WA had
9
Covid deaths in 2 years (and we wouldn't even have had those 9 deaths if the borders had been closed properly).

Public health advice? OK then - let's see it. More like business advice as usual, I'll bet.

Try telling the truth for once, I know it must be hard - just like it is for all politicians but at least try.

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WA Transport Minister Rita Saffioti said easing the mask mandate on pubic transport was a sensible way forward, but people could still wear masks if they chose to.


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"Members of the community who want to continue to wear masks, of course they can, and they should if they feel they want to," she said.

"Just as when you are going to the shops and some people are wearing masks and some people who don't … it's very much going to be a community choice.


Stop it, Rita - my sides are aching from laughter... you're talking about that "Personal Responsibility" again.  Grin

I feel like sending her an email about the "personal responsibilty" I witnessed on a Transperth bus today with 3 clowns chatting away... 2 had their 'baggy blue' masks under their chins and the third wasn't wearing a mask at all.

But I guess the government needed to find a sure way to infect those sneaky oldies and other vulnerable members of the community who have managed to avoid Covid so far but have to use public transport to get where they need to go... you know... places like doctors and hospitals.

Is this something Mark agreed to at the 'Secret Squirrel' National Cabinet meeting that's just been held?

Hope Mark's got something planned for when he's finished in politics (which will be the next WA State election - that's almost guaranteed).

Just wondering which one is Mark in this leaked picture of the latest 'Secret Squirrel' meeting?
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Reply #1646 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 7:26am
 
And...

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Mr McGowan said masks were still encouraged in crowded indoor settings where it was difficult to physically distance.

He said he hoped the removal of the mask mandate would have a positive flow-on effect.

"We hope [it] will mean more people get back on our buses and trains and use public transport to get to and from work and other places," he said.


You should choose your words a little more carefully Mark (or get your script writer to double check what they've written) because that could be very easily seen as an admission that this decision isn't about health at all but about $$$ (as usual).

But, anyone with half a brain already knows that.

Oh, and it's interesting to see that you consider criminals a high risk group but not pensioners and other vulnerable people using public transport.

https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2022/09/Public-health-measur...

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Mask wearing still required in high-risk settings such as hospitals, prisons, aged and disability care facilities, with masks still encouraged for crowded indoor settings


Hopefully we'll be seeing you and your buddies in prison one day in the not too distant future (and don't forget to take your masks).

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Reply #1647 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 8:02am
 
I still wear a mask when amongst high density areas of people like Supermarkets.
I like how it makes un-masked people look uncomfortable.
That's right you dirty disease spreading primitives - lower your gaze.  Grin
Love wearing my mask into a Bank.  Cheesy

But its true. They are all filthy disease spreaders. They don't even use the hand sanitisers or cloths anymore.
Like 100 years ago - another Pandemic just swept under the rug to be forgotten.

Ironically, they're predicting more Viruses to emerge these coming years. That's from the Scientists. At least three Prophesisers from the past have predicted a number of at least 5 major Viruses to kill millions in this decade.
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Reply #1648 - Sep 3rd, 2022 at 8:39am
 
Hey, Jas.

Have you heard of "zombie ants"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_unilateralis

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Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, commonly known as zombie-ant fungus, is an insect-pathogenic fungus, discovered by the British naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace in 1859, and currently found predominantly in tropical forest ecosystems.

O. unilateralis infects ants of the tribe Camponotini, with the full pathogenesis being characterized by alteration of the behavioral patterns of the infected ant. Infected hosts leave their canopy nests and foraging trails for the forest floor, an area with a temperature and humidity suitable for fungal growth; they then use their mandibles to attach themselves to a major vein on the underside of a leaf, where the host remains after its eventual death.

The process leading to mortality takes 4–10 days, and includes a reproductive stage where fruiting bodies grow from the ant's head, rupturing to release the fungus's spores.


A lot of people are wondering if a similar thing is happening with the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus.

Covid can and does affect the brain and perhaps it is manipulating the actions of the infected to make them 'go on a mission' to infect as many others as they can?

I know Mark McGowan and quite a few other pollies and so called medical experts have had Covid so the idea doesn't seem to be too far fetched.  Shocked
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Reply #1649 - Sep 11th, 2022 at 11:52am
 
Well, after the public transport mask mandates were removed here in WA on Friday I've noticed hardly anyone is wearing masks anymore.

Sat at the bus stop in Wright Street outside Belmont Forum for about 20 minutes on Friday morning (in my KN95 mask, of course) and watched about 5 or 6 buses go past and stop for passengers.

I must have seen about 3 or 4 people with masks on while I was watching.

The bus drivers weren't wearing masks - no real surprise there.

Saw about the same when I walked to the Kooyong Road shops and back home yesterday - 2 or 3 people wearing masks on the 3 or 4 buses I saw. And, surprisingly, I actually saw one of the drivers wearing a mask!!

I thought for a minute that it might have been 2 bus drivers wearing masks but it turned out one of them just had a long, dark beard.

Now I'm just waiting for the "You do you" signs to appear on our public transport.  Roll Eyes
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